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Anonymous wrote:Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

All carbs are technically and scientifically "bad", there are no good ones, but some are simply less harmful than others.

All carbs get broken down into glucose in the body though, except fructose tends to get deposited as fat rather than used in most people.

A plant based diet in general is not healthy at all. Sure it is better than a high-carb diet of junk food, but not nearly as healthy as a more protein and fat based diet.

I see because man ate meat first and then discovered agriculture? so we are more adept at eating meat vs plants?

Let me throw some thoughts at that:

1. Man is the only primate to eat meat. The other may eat insects, small animals, etc. but 95+% of the diet is plant based.
2. Man doesn't make Vitamin C - carnivores do; we were meant to get this from plants.
3. Man makes cholesterol and carnivores don't; we hold on to it - carnivores do not they actually flush out excess.
4. Carnivores swallow their food; Man like other herbivores chew their food.
5. Adventist study comparing similar environment and genetics show vegetarian diets are far healthier.
6. China Study - 750,000 people over 25 years show vegetarian diet is far healthier.
7. Fiber is essential for gut biome. There is 0% of fiber coming from meat.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

All carbs are technically and scientifically "bad", there are no good ones, but some are simply less harmful than others.

All carbs get broken down into glucose in the body though, except fructose tends to get deposited as fat rather than used in most people.

A plant based diet in general is not healthy at all. Sure it is better than a high-carb diet of junk food, but not nearly as healthy as a more protein and fat based diet.

I see because man ate meat first and then discovered agriculture? so we are more adept at eating meat vs plants?

Let me throw some thoughts at that:

1. Man is the only primate to eat meat. The other may eat insects, small animals, etc. but 95+% of the diet is plant based.
2. Man doesn't make Vitamin C - carnivores do; we were meant to get this from plants.
3. Man makes cholesterol and carnivores don't; we hold on to it - carnivores do not they actually flush out excess.
4. Carnivores swallow their food; Man like other herbivores chew their food.
5. Adventist study comparing similar environment and genetics show vegetarian diets are far healthier.
6. China Study - 750,000 people over 25 years show vegetarian diet is far healthier.
7. Fiber is essential for gut biome. There is 0% of fiber coming from meat.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

All carbs are technically and scientifically "bad", there are no good ones, but some are simply less harmful than others.

All carbs get broken down into glucose in the body though, except fructose tends to get deposited as fat rather than used in most people.

A plant based diet in general is not healthy at all. Sure it is better than a high-carb diet of junk food, but not nearly as healthy as a more protein and fat based diet.

I see because man ate meat first and then discovered agriculture? so we are more adept at eating meat vs plants?

Let me throw some thoughts at that:

1. Man is the only primate to eat meat. So what, humans are a different species.
2. Man doesn't make Vitamin C - carnivores do; we were meant to get this from plants. The need for Vit C is reduced to almost nothing on a no-carb diet. Also you get plenty of vit C from meats, organ meats, eggs, etc.
3. Man makes cholesterol and carnivores don't; we hold on to it - carnivores do not they actually flush out excess. Cholesterol is good and keeps you healthy and creates testosterone. LDL is bad, and caused by overconsumption of carbs.
4. Carnivores swallow their food; Man like other herbivores chew their food. And this is not relevant at all.
5. Adventist study comparing similar environment and genetics show vegetarian diets are far healthier. This is about science, not religious dogma. Try the religious section.
6. China Study - 750,000 people over 25 years show vegetarian diet is far healthier. China is poor and has to feed 2+ billion people a rice based diet or they starve. They are not very healthy at all overall as a population.
7. Fiber is essential for gut biome. There is 0% of fiber coming from meat. Fiber is not necessary for proper bowel movements when eating enough fat. Hence why a high protein low fat diet is deadly.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

All carbs are technically and scientifically "bad", there are no good ones, but some are simply less harmful than others.

All carbs get broken down into glucose in the body though, except fructose tends to get deposited as fat rather than used in most people.

A plant based diet in general is not healthy at all. Sure it is better than a high-carb diet of junk food, but not nearly as healthy as a more protein and fat based diet.

Anonymous wrote:I am struggling with this as well, but because I am at very high risk for diabetes. There is a lot of research out there on lowering diabetes risk, but it seems it generally points to a low-carb low-fat diet being the best.

Anonymous wrote:Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

Anonymous wrote:I am struggling with this as well, but because I am at very high risk for diabetes. There is a lot of research out there on lowering diabetes risk, but it seems it generally points to a low-carb low-fat diet being the best. So I'ts a real challenge for me to eat more plant-based meals that are also not very high in carbs. One example of what I do is front load a lot of veggies and then eat a small portion of lentils and rice. I am considering starting to eat tofu but I'm worried because of the controversy surrounding it--also never grew up eating it.

Anonymous wrote:Complex carbs are good. Simple carbs are bad.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't eat meat anymore, sometimes eggs and sometimes fish (really only sushi and smoked salmon, occasionally). I find myself eating too many carbs. I'm on semaglutide and not gaining, but also losing at a snail's pace, I think because of the carb-heavy diet. How do you eat a plant based diet that is not too carb heavy? For instance I absolutely love toast with various things on it (veggies, cheese, vegan spreads I make...), that is my favorite thing to eat.

First of all you cannot have a "balanced plant based diet" that doesn't exist. Nobody with any knowledge ever says it does.
Second of all, fish is meat. Fish are not plants or fungi or bacteria.
Third, you never lose fat on a high carb diet. You can lose weight, and get scrawny, but you will have what they call the "skinny-fat" look, like a marathon runner with drooping skin and weak thin muscles.