Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised the boys were changing without a chaperone. I am not surprised that high schoolers were having sex in the locker room. It is unfortunate that the kids had to walk in on it. That’s pretty much the end of it. Kids have been walking in on teens/ adults having sex since the beginning of time.

THIS.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised the boys were changing without a chaperone. I am not surprised that high schoolers were having sex in the locker room. It is unfortunate that the kids had to walk in on it. That’s pretty much the end of it. Kids have been walking in on teens/ adults having sex since the beginning of time.

The kids who witnessed it had some not insignificant issues with anxiety and nightmares after. So, it’s not just “unfortunate,” it’s harmed those children.

My take on it was the kids were feeling very guilty, like the whole thing was their fault, because swimming was canceled when they (correctly) told their parents what they’d seen. And it was made into a big deal (probably correctly, hard to say). Their parents were very upset. These things also contribute to feeling anxious and having bad dreams afterwords. I’m sure you’ll say I’m trying to minimize their trauma. But if it was consensual sex, and the kids saw it by accident, this is something that happens all the time, all over the world, since the beginning of time. Nobody was abused and it shouldn’t be treated as such.

Stop trying to normalize this. Eight year olds should not be seeing high schoolers having sex in a locker room. It’s not okay, and it likely is traumatizing to them.

Of course it’s not ok but it sounds like it was accidental and it sounds like the parents and the school are acting like these kids were being forced to view or participate or something terrible like that. Teenagers have sex! Usually someplace other than in their bedroom, because their parents don’t let them! Sometimes someone will accidentally see that. It should be treated with care and the kids should of course ask questions etc to their parents but like…. Tell me you understand that people accidentally see other people have sex sometimes? Don’t you know anyone who accidentally walked in on their parents? It’s not uncommon!

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Anonymous wrote:That's nuts. My niece is in 3rd grade, and I just had to explain to her last week what nipples are. A third grader should not be exposed to that!

My niece is in third grade and already wears a bra. Your 9 year old should know what her body parts are.

Why on earth does your third grader need a bra

Jesus - do you even have a female child? Lots of younger girls start developing early. Wearing a sportsbra or bralette at 8 or 9 is not uncommon.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised the boys were changing without a chaperone. I am not surprised that high schoolers were having sex in the locker room. It is unfortunate that the kids had to walk in on it. That’s pretty much the end of it. Kids have been walking in on teens/ adults having sex since the beginning of time.

The kids who witnessed it had some not insignificant issues with anxiety and nightmares after. So, it’s not just “unfortunate,” it’s harmed those children.

My take on it was the kids were feeling very guilty, like the whole thing was their fault, because swimming was canceled when they (correctly) told their parents what they’d seen. And it was made into a big deal (probably correctly, hard to say). Their parents were very upset. These things also contribute to feeling anxious and having bad dreams afterwords. I’m sure you’ll say I’m trying to minimize their trauma. But if it was consensual sex, and the kids saw it by accident, this is something that happens all the time, all over the world, since the beginning of time. Nobody was abused and it shouldn’t be treated as such.

Stop trying to normalize this. Eight year olds should not be seeing high schoolers having sex in a locker room. It’s not okay, and it likely is traumatizing to them.

Oh come on. This is not normal, but it's not going to traumatize anyone. This falls into the "shit happens" bucket of life. You talk to your kid, you keep the lines of communication open, and you move on.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised the boys were changing without a chaperone. I am not surprised that high schoolers were having sex in the locker room. It is unfortunate that the kids had to walk in on it. That’s pretty much the end of it. Kids have been walking in on teens/ adults having sex since the beginning of time.

This. I have the feeling people are exceptionally offended because it was gay sex. They'd let hetero sex pass.

nope

Honest question. If your kid walked in on sex accidentally- you and your DH, an aunt and uncle, an older cousin, etc- would you freak out and make it seem like sex is a terrible dirty thing and never let him see those people or do that activity again (in this case, swimming was canceled for example). Or would you explain what they saw, ask if they had any questions, reiterated that it’s supposed to be private but that walking in by mistake wasn’t their fault and not to feel bad about it, that if anyone ever tries to make them watch that sort of thing on purpose to tell mom and dad, etc?

This is the kind of thing that has happened forever and only now are we getting up in arms about it. The outrage is overblown.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised the boys were changing without a chaperone. I am not surprised that high schoolers were having sex in the locker room. It is unfortunate that the kids had to walk in on it. That’s pretty much the end of it. Kids have been walking in on teens/ adults having sex since the beginning of time.

The kids who witnessed it had some not insignificant issues with anxiety and nightmares after. So, it’s not just “unfortunate,” it’s harmed those children.

My take on it was the kids were feeling very guilty, like the whole thing was their fault, because swimming was canceled when they (correctly) told their parents what they’d seen. And it was made into a big deal (probably correctly, hard to say). Their parents were very upset. These things also contribute to feeling anxious and having bad dreams afterwords. I’m sure you’ll say I’m trying to minimize their trauma. But if it was consensual sex, and the kids saw it by accident, this is something that happens all the time, all over the world, since the beginning of time. Nobody was abused and it shouldn’t be treated as such.

Stop trying to normalize this. Eight year olds should not be seeing high schoolers having sex in a locker room. It’s not okay, and it likely is traumatizing to them.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised the boys were changing without a chaperone. I am not surprised that high schoolers were having sex in the locker room. It is unfortunate that the kids had to walk in on it. That’s pretty much the end of it. Kids have been walking in on teens/ adults having sex since the beginning of time.

This. I have the feeling people are exceptionally offended because it was gay sex. They'd let hetero sex pass.

nope

Anonymous wrote:That's nuts. My niece is in 3rd grade, and I just had to explain to her last week what nipples are. A third grader should not be exposed to that!

WTF? How does your 8/9 year old not know what a nipple is. My children have had nipples their entire lives. Did your daughter's just appear magically overnight?

Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised the boys were changing without a chaperone. I am not surprised that high schoolers were having sex in the locker room. It is unfortunate that the kids had to walk in on it. That’s pretty much the end of it. Kids have been walking in on teens/ adults having sex since the beginning of time.

This. I have the feeling people are exceptionally offended because it was gay sex. They'd let hetero sex pass.

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Anonymous wrote:That's nuts. My niece is in 3rd grade, and I just had to explain to her last week what nipples are. A third grader should not be exposed to that!

My niece is in third grade and already wears a bra. Your 9 year old should know what her body parts are.

Why on earth does your third grader need a bra

Because my third grade niece is 9 and has started developing. It’s well within the realm of normal actually. She will probably get her period when she’s 11.

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Anonymous wrote:That's nuts. My niece is in 3rd grade, and I just had to explain to her last week what nipples are. A third grader should not be exposed to that!

My niece is in third grade and already wears a bra. Your 9 year old should know what her body parts are.

Why on earth does your third grader need a bra

This is why I don't have my teen change in the locker rooms for swim. They are not supervised. For a little one you need to take them to the family restroom or change before they arrive. I don't get why parents allow young kids in the locker rooms alone. The swim team or facility should monitor the locker rooms but they don't.

Anonymous wrote:That's nuts. My niece is in 3rd grade, and I just had to explain to her last week what nipples are. A third grader should not be exposed to that!

My niece is in third grade and already wears a bra. Your 9 year old should know what her body parts are.

That's nuts. My niece is in 3rd grade, and I just had to explain to her last week what nipples are. A third grader should not be exposed to that!