Anonymous wrote:Large public + chem = UMN

Plus it’s rolling. Apply now and you’ll hear back in a couple of weeks. Merit is very likely.

You people are crazy. All top state schools are in play. Just went through process with my DC with same SAT and lower GPA and he had plenty of great options.

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Anonymous wrote:1430 SAT - not great but nearly an even spread in both language and math. 710 and 720.

3.98 unweighted. Only AP test so far is Chemistry. Received a 5. Did not take the APUSH exam due to confidence issues.

Senior: All As so far.

AP Physics/Mechanics
AP Calculus
Advanced Chemistry Research (3rd high school chemistry class)
AP Literature and Comp
Humanities Seminar.
Government (required)- I don't think it's AP

HOSA 3 years, HOSA ILC qualifying 2 years, Math team, Swim team, Leadership (a program at our school), and is an after school tutor a local tutoring center for Chemistry and Math.

He really wants to go to a large public university and do something with chemistry and/or STEM. He's obviously applying now, but would love some ideas in case there's somewhere we haven't thought of.

WTF is wrong with you? It’s 95th percentile.

Nowadays, a 1430 isn't getting you anything, especially coming from the DMV. It might help you if you're FGLI or from a rural area.

I’m so glad I’m done with this board (DD is now college freshman). She got a 1400 and got into all but 4 of the 19 schools she applied to - with very significant merit aid and one full tuition scholarship offer. She had a realistic list with some excellent schools (including the one she handed at). The ones she was rejected from were Ivies/Elite schools which we pretty much expected. We were thrilled with her results and this board is a toxic bubble. Try to stay off of it if you want your emotional peace of mind through this process.

Agree with this. I've found it to far more "doom and gloom" then reality. There are some posters who frequently post (I'm thinking of one in particular) who comes back almost daily to tell about her 4.5/1590/18 AP child's tale of woe from 2023. Again and again and again. I think all she does is post on here: "My kid didn't get in anywhere but one top40 school. College admissions are impossible. IMPOSSIBLE I tell you!!!" :roll: :roll:

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Anonymous wrote:1430 SAT - not great but nearly an even spread in both language and math. 710 and 720.

3.98 unweighted. Only AP test so far is Chemistry. Received a 5. Did not take the APUSH exam due to confidence issues.

Senior: All As so far.

AP Physics/Mechanics
AP Calculus
Advanced Chemistry Research (3rd high school chemistry class)
AP Literature and Comp
Humanities Seminar.
Government (required)- I don't think it's AP

HOSA 3 years, HOSA ILC qualifying 2 years, Math team, Swim team, Leadership (a program at our school), and is an after school tutor a local tutoring center for Chemistry and Math.

He really wants to go to a large public university and do something with chemistry and/or STEM. He's obviously applying now, but would love some ideas in case there's somewhere we haven't thought of.

WTF is wrong with you? It’s 95th percentile.

Nowadays, a 1430 isn't getting you anything, especially coming from the DMV. It might help you if you're FGLI or from a rural area.

I’m so glad I’m done with this board (DD is now college freshman). She got a 1400 and got into all but 4 of the 19 schools she applied to - with very significant merit aid and one full tuition scholarship offer. She had a realistic list with some excellent schools (including the one she handed at). The ones she was rejected from were Ivies/Elite schools which we pretty much expected. We were thrilled with her results and this board is a toxic bubble. Try to stay off of it if you want your emotional peace of mind through this process.

Not sure if you're from the DMV, but it's possible that kids from DMV with this score have a tougher time simply because there are a large number of candidates with this score from this area. Or, maybe not -- but in any case, congratulations on your daughter's success and choices!

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Anonymous wrote:1430 SAT - not great but nearly an even spread in both language and math. 710 and 720.

3.98 unweighted. Only AP test so far is Chemistry. Received a 5. Did not take the APUSH exam due to confidence issues.

Senior: All As so far.

AP Physics/Mechanics
AP Calculus
Advanced Chemistry Research (3rd high school chemistry class)
AP Literature and Comp
Humanities Seminar.
Government (required)- I don't think it's AP

HOSA 3 years, HOSA ILC qualifying 2 years, Math team, Swim team, Leadership (a program at our school), and is an after school tutor a local tutoring center for Chemistry and Math.

He really wants to go to a large public university and do something with chemistry and/or STEM. He's obviously applying now, but would love some ideas in case there's somewhere we haven't thought of.

WTF is wrong with you? It’s 95th percentile.

Nowadays, a 1430 isn't getting you anything, especially coming from the DMV. It might help you if you're FGLI or from a rural area.

I’m so glad I’m done with this board (DD is now college freshman). She got a 1400 and got into all but 4 of the 19 schools she applied to - with very significant merit aid and one full tuition scholarship offer. She had a realistic list with some excellent schools (including the one she handed at). The ones she was rejected from were Ivies/Elite schools which we pretty much expected. We were thrilled with her results and this board is a toxic bubble. Try to stay off of it if you want your emotional peace of mind through this process.

What are the two largest schools in your state?

Virginia Tech

Roll Tide

Purdue. Might be a reach for OOS.

Can your school counselor check the "most rigorous curriculum" box on the recommendation form?

How does he compare to his peers?

These two items are very important in giving you an appropriate range of schools.

UC-Berkeley & Carnegie Mellon University are great for chemical engineering.

For medium schools, I like the suggestion of W&M and would also add Davidson.

Pitt, Syracuse and KU come to mind for larger campuses with sports and school spirit.

Please share what state you’re in and which geographic areas are of interest to your student.

University of Connecticut

Anonymous wrote:Apply to state flagships in South and Midwest.

A quick look at US News has many public universities as top programs in chemical engineering and/or chemistry including
East Coast/Mid Atlantic : Penn State, University of Delaware, SUNY-Buffalo, University of Pittsburgh, UMD, Virginia Tech (including here with DMV)
Midwest: University of Minnesota-Twin Cities, Ohio State, University of Wisconsin-Madison, Michigan State (MSU), University of Michigan (reach), University of Illinois-Urbana (maybe reach)
South: Texas A&M, UT Knoxville, NC State, UT Austin (reach), Georgia Tech (reach)

I am sure there are even more options for your son, probably too many, but the chemical engineering, strong chemistry programs was one way to narrow. Add cost constraints that might narrow even more. If you add geographic locations and urban, rural, suburban preferences that would narrow even more. His profile is a strong one and there are many schools that would be likely or targets in general. But for schools where chemistry or chemical engineering is an impacted major or where 80% have to be in-state, or it’s a reach school for all, the 1430 SAT and not having as many APs might not be as competitive a profile. In those cases, maybe they apply undecided and have to weigh if TO, assuming offered, would be more likely to help or hurt. Also, sometimes being in that EA applicant pool could be a boost - like UMD is very clear it’s a disadvantage if you don’t apply by EA Nov 1 deadline and I’ve read that Pitt gets more competitive to get an offer (and merit) if you apply much later in the cycle.

Large public + chem = UMN