Anonymous wrote:OP, here’s my story. I have hovered around 25/26 BMI since I was a kid, but am very tall with a large frame (e.g., size 11 feet, fit into men’s tall raincoats, eg). I’m fit, I eat clean (very little sugar, no processed foods, very little alcohol).

As a kid, my mom restricted our food out of fear of gaining, plus cost. my brothers and I fought over food all the time and would eat raw flour, pasta, cheese, uncooked bacon—whatever we could find. We stole food from other people’s houses. I had pica and went through a period of eating gelcaps. My brother ate a small container of paint. During an illness, I wasn’t allowed to eat food that I could keep down and lost 30 pounds over a 10 week period.

My brother developed binge eating disorder and gained over 200 pounds. He eventually lost the weight but developed serious chronic conditions.

I dieted, weighed myself, exercised, walked, lifted weights, counted calories, etc, for 44 years. I have been in therapy, seen nutritionists, take antidepressants, do meditation, yoga, etc.

A few months ago after some weight gain/high blood pressure readings (perimenopause) she recommended Contrave to help with cravings.

OP—WITHIN 24 HOURS the food noise quieted down. I didn’t realize it was there until it was gone. I no longer had my life controlled by what and when and how I would eat and what that meant about me and my body and my body compared to others etc etc. It’s just…..quiet?

I’ve lost a few pounds but honestly I don’t care. The improvement in my quality of life is huge. There are some people for whom nature, nurture, or a combination of both turns on the food scarcity mindset. But I couldn’t fix it without meds.

Anonymous wrote:Don't buy junk food.
Eating a more basic diet of meat, milk, eggs, legumes, whole grains is cheaper than buying pre-fab foods and junk food, and healthier as well.

Avoid fresh vegetables unless you grow them yourself, as that is where most people waste their money on "eating healthy", as frozen is usually better than fresh if buying from a store. Once you are buying healthy, you can eat more.

Also, more you move, more calories you burn, and higher you basal metabolic rate will be, so no worries.

Anonymous wrote:I think one way past this is to promise yourself that you can have the cookie “tomorrow “ — IF you really still want the cookie. Then notice how you feel when you wake up the next day. For me, the issue is often desserts or chips. When I wake up in the morning, I usually don’t want whatever I was craving the evening before. When I don’t eat those things for a few days, the cravings go away.

An issue for me is that I was forced to “clean my plate” as a kid, so, at some deep level, “finishing” food means that I’m “good” and won’t get punished. I still battle that kind of “noise” sometimes too. So I think it’s a combination of emotional “noise” and food noise — possibly connected with some starchy + fat/sugar/salt foods. As others have suggested, the food noise may quiet down if you eliminate certain types of foods, and therapy can help with the emotional stuff.

Anonymous wrote:OP, here’s my story. I have hovered around 25/26 BMI since I was a kid, but am very tall with a large frame (e.g., size 11 feet, fit into men’s tall raincoats, eg). I’m fit, I eat clean (very little sugar, no processed foods, very little alcohol).

As a kid, my mom restricted our food out of fear of gaining, plus cost. my brothers and I fought over food all the time and would eat raw flour, pasta, cheese, uncooked bacon—whatever we could find. We stole food from other people’s houses. I had pica and went through a period of eating gelcaps. My brother ate a small container of paint. During an illness, I wasn’t allowed to eat food that I could keep down and lost 30 pounds over a 10 week period.

My brother developed binge eating disorder and gained over 200 pounds. He eventually lost the weight but developed serious chronic conditions.

I dieted, weighed myself, exercised, walked, lifted weights, counted calories, etc, for 44 years. I have been in therapy, seen nutritionists, take antidepressants, do meditation, yoga, etc.

A few months ago after some weight gain/high blood pressure readings (perimenopause) she recommended Contrave to help with cravings.

OP—WITHIN 24 HOURS the food noise quieted down. I didn’t realize it was there until it was gone. I no longer had my life controlled by what and when and how I would eat and what that meant about me and my body and my body compared to others etc etc. It’s just…..quiet?

I’ve lost a few pounds but honestly I don’t care. The improvement in my quality of life is huge. There are some people for whom nature, nurture, or a combination of both turns on the food scarcity mindset. But I couldn’t fix it without meds.

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Anonymous wrote:Find something more productive to do than fixing on the cookie maybe?

This is a useless answer.

OP, the answer is senaglutide. It isn’t a psychological problem, it’s a physiological one.

Anonymous wrote:Box the cookies, put it in your closet. Eat it later.