Anonymous
Post 09/17/2024 14:21     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
I am European. It is funny reading this guy "Anonymous" talking about developmental "soccer" for 13k years old kids mentality. No scoring, no rankings... Crazy. Nowadays in Europe the 16 years lads are opening matches, 19k guys like Lamine Yamal and Arda Guler are the team stars on prime football teams. Stop getting your American psycho stupidity on Football
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2024 14:10     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Personally just being curious about how one teams does against another team doesn’t make us not care about our kids development. So relax.

And understanding how well my son team is doing compared to the over league might make me rethink which program I think is best for us.

Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 21:27     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it doesn't make sense to keep standings at U13 and U14, then it also doesn't make sense to keep standings at U15. I mean who really cares about these standings either other than the players, coaches, and parents?!?


If your U13 and U14 coach is worried about standings and rankings, then he sure ain't focused on your kid's development

As a parent or kid, don't you know if you won or lost after the game if thats what's important to you?


Why do U15 standings matter?


Because Internationally U15 is when tactical and performance starts gaining traction at academies because maturation is happening with the players.

At MLS Next level the standings matter at U15 because of entry requirements into national tournaments.

U13 & U14 has no such tournament entry requirements.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 21:07     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it doesn't make sense to keep standings at U13 and U14, then it also doesn't make sense to keep standings at U15. I mean who really cares about these standings either other than the players, coaches, and parents?!?


If your U13 and U14 coach is worried about standings and rankings, then he sure ain't focused on your kid's development

As a parent or kid, don't you know if you won or lost after the game if thats what's important to you?


Why do U15 standings matter?


There is MLSNext playoffs and GA Cup starting at U15 and teams need to qualify for based on league standings.


Again why does any of that matter? Who actually cares? College scouts don't care about team standings.


Ya who cares about anything. Who cares about college scouts, your kid will probably bench to the international and academy kids anyways. Who cares about the 2 biggest boys tournament in the US?
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 20:03     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it doesn't make sense to keep standings at U13 and U14, then it also doesn't make sense to keep standings at U15. I mean who really cares about these standings either other than the players, coaches, and parents?!?


If your U13 and U14 coach is worried about standings and rankings, then he sure ain't focused on your kid's development

As a parent or kid, don't you know if you won or lost after the game if thats what's important to you?


Why do U15 standings matter?


There is MLSNext playoffs and GA Cup starting at U15 and teams need to qualify for based on league standings.


Again why does any of that matter? Who actually cares? College scouts don't care about team standings.


This is so true. For college or any recruiting, you need platforms like MLSNext and ECNL to be seen. But at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter where ur team stands; it’s how u perform when you’re being watched.


They could have ID camps and things like ODP to take individuals to showcase events. But even beyond that, why would they have EDP U15 standings for people who aren't recruiting for college? Seems standings have basically no purpose unless they involve money (college scholarships or professional) or they have purpose because of the motivation that competition by itself brings.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 19:52     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it doesn't make sense to keep standings at U13 and U14, then it also doesn't make sense to keep standings at U15. I mean who really cares about these standings either other than the players, coaches, and parents?!?


If your U13 and U14 coach is worried about standings and rankings, then he sure ain't focused on your kid's development

As a parent or kid, don't you know if you won or lost after the game if thats what's important to you?


Why do U15 standings matter?


There is MLSNext playoffs and GA Cup starting at U15 and teams need to qualify for based on league standings.


Again why does any of that matter? Who actually cares? College scouts don't care about team standings.


This is so true. For college or any recruiting, you need platforms like MLSNext and ECNL to be seen. But at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter where ur team stands; it’s how u perform when you’re being watched.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 19:50     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The posted the standings last season for all age group. They also had the standing posted after the first week of league play but since has been removed. I understand the standings doesn't matter for U13 and U14 but curious as to why it was removed this season.

I know this is going to open up the flood gate. I'm ready for all the snarky comments, bring it.


Because they are key developmental years and everyone is fixated on wins even if shitty soccer is being played to get those wins.


This is just false. Been around the soccer block for a while in club and seen a lot of higher level play at these age groups, and never seen a serious coach (or any for that matter) who only cares about winning. Even if you were to eliminate standings it would do absolutely zero to fix anything in youth soccer. From my own kids mouths, the problem with many coaches is they want all their players to play a certain way and give them a hard time when they make mistakes. So my kid isn't being criticized for not winning games, it's when they chose to try to beat the last defender and take a shot rather than make a pass. So then it gets in their head and they are afraid to ever go 1v1 because of the chance they fail and the coach reacts. This type of thing isn't about winning, it's about coaches wanting to control everything that goes on during the game.


Then that is shitty coaching and also about about winning. You win more by playing it safe. But Development requires being allowed to make mistakes and risks. And I can understand what ur saying. DS selected a different club over another one bc the style of play would hinder any soccer IQ instincts he had. Lots of passing and playing it safe. Don’t think u can develop individually playing that way.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 19:47     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it doesn't make sense to keep standings at U13 and U14, then it also doesn't make sense to keep standings at U15. I mean who really cares about these standings either other than the players, coaches, and parents?!?


If your U13 and U14 coach is worried about standings and rankings, then he sure ain't focused on your kid's development

As a parent or kid, don't you know if you won or lost after the game if thats what's important to you?


Why do U15 standings matter?


There is MLSNext playoffs and GA Cup starting at U15 and teams need to qualify for based on league standings.


Again why does any of that matter? Who actually cares? College scouts don't care about team standings.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 19:40     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it doesn't make sense to keep standings at U13 and U14, then it also doesn't make sense to keep standings at U15. I mean who really cares about these standings either other than the players, coaches, and parents?!?


If your U13 and U14 coach is worried about standings and rankings, then he sure ain't focused on your kid's development

As a parent or kid, don't you know if you won or lost after the game if thats what's important to you?


Why do U15 standings matter?


There is MLSNext playoffs and GA Cup starting at U15 and teams need to qualify for based on league standings.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 19:36     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The posted the standings last season for all age group. They also had the standing posted after the first week of league play but since has been removed. I understand the standings doesn't matter for U13 and U14 but curious as to why it was removed this season.

I know this is going to open up the flood gate. I'm ready for all the snarky comments, bring it.


Because they are key developmental years and everyone is fixated on wins even if shitty soccer is being played to get those wins.


This is just false. Been around the soccer block for a while in club and seen a lot of higher level play at these age groups, and never seen a serious coach (or any for that matter) who only cares about winning. Even if you were to eliminate standings it would do absolutely zero to fix anything in youth soccer. From my own kids mouths, the problem with many coaches is they want all their players to play a certain way and give them a hard time when they make mistakes. So my kid isn't being criticized for not winning games, it's when they chose to try to beat the last defender and take a shot rather than make a pass. So then it gets in their head and they are afraid to ever go 1v1 because of the chance they fail and the coach reacts. This type of thing isn't about winning, it's about coaches wanting to control everything that goes on during the game.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 19:24     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it doesn't make sense to keep standings at U13 and U14, then it also doesn't make sense to keep standings at U15. I mean who really cares about these standings either other than the players, coaches, and parents?!?


If your U13 and U14 coach is worried about standings and rankings, then he sure ain't focused on your kid's development

As a parent or kid, don't you know if you won or lost after the game if thats what's important to you?


Why do U15 standings matter?
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 19:24     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it doesn't make sense to keep standings at U13 and U14, then it also doesn't make sense to keep standings at U15. I mean who really cares about these standings either other than the players, coaches, and parents?!?


Go sit at the kids table and leave the discussion for serious grownups


Why do U15 standings matter?
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 19:07     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Anonymous wrote:If it doesn't make sense to keep standings at U13 and U14, then it also doesn't make sense to keep standings at U15. I mean who really cares about these standings either other than the players, coaches, and parents?!?


If your U13 and U14 coach is worried about standings and rankings, then he sure ain't focused on your kid's development

As a parent or kid, don't you know if you won or lost after the game if thats what's important to you?
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 19:02     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
Anonymous wrote:If it doesn't make sense to keep standings at U13 and U14, then it also doesn't make sense to keep standings at U15. I mean who really cares about these standings either other than the players, coaches, and parents?!?


Go sit at the kids table and leave the discussion for serious grownups
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2024 18:39     Subject: MLS Next Standings U13 and U14 removed
If it doesn't make sense to keep standings at U13 and U14, then it also doesn't make sense to keep standings at U15. I mean who really cares about these standings either other than the players, coaches, and parents?!?