Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 13:30     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:High school applications for the current seniors were due during January of the second virtual year and there was no end in sight with DCPS. If you remember, the DC private schools were back in school, the rest of the country was back in school, and yet DCPS was still virtual--again with no end in sight. And high school was looming in the fall for this grade.

Everyone who could applied to private high school. The top privates took the brightest DCPS kids. Many others did not get a private spot. For every Deal kid I knew who got a Sidwell /GDS/NCS spot there were 2 who applied but were not admitted.

As such, this class at JR was stripped of most of it's top brain power.

It's fascinating to see this play out almost 4 years later.



That's really sad and also makes me think of the trickle down effects. When you remove all the most academically focused and successful kids from a school it has negative impacts on all the kids. Because while only a small percent of kids are going to be true academic standouts there are a huge number of kids who might have one or two areas of academic interest or who have the ability to excel if properly motivated. Like you might have a kid who is a B student generally but is very passionate about science and puts a lot of effort in there. That kid should be in science classes with other very bright and committed students -- it will give him a better experience generally and also help prepare him to study science in college classes. Take away all the super academic kids and his science classes may be less focused with a much lower bar. He's missing out.


Yep, it's yet another repercussion of the insane DCPS Covid policies.
The best and brightest had other options and they took them.






OK, how many former Deal students at private schools (who would otherwise have gone to J-R) were NMSF this year?
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 13:16     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:High school applications for the current seniors were due during January of the second virtual year and there was no end in sight with DCPS. If you remember, the DC private schools were back in school, the rest of the country was back in school, and yet DCPS was still virtual--again with no end in sight. And high school was looming in the fall for this grade.

Everyone who could applied to private high school. The top privates took the brightest DCPS kids. Many others did not get a private spot. For every Deal kid I knew who got a Sidwell /GDS/NCS spot there were 2 who applied but were not admitted.

As such, this class at JR was stripped of most of it's top brain power.

It's fascinating to see this play out almost 4 years later.



This really is fascinating. Thanks for the inside information!
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 11:31     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:High school applications for the current seniors were due during January of the second virtual year and there was no end in sight with DCPS. If you remember, the DC private schools were back in school, the rest of the country was back in school, and yet DCPS was still virtual--again with no end in sight. And high school was looming in the fall for this grade.

Everyone who could applied to private high school. The top privates took the brightest DCPS kids. Many others did not get a private spot. For every Deal kid I knew who got a Sidwell /GDS/NCS spot there were 2 who applied but were not admitted.

As such, this class at JR was stripped of most of it's top brain power.

It's fascinating to see this play out almost 4 years later.



That's really sad and also makes me think of the trickle down effects. When you remove all the most academically focused and successful kids from a school it has negative impacts on all the kids. Because while only a small percent of kids are going to be true academic standouts there are a huge number of kids who might have one or two areas of academic interest or who have the ability to excel if properly motivated. Like you might have a kid who is a B student generally but is very passionate about science and puts a lot of effort in there. That kid should be in science classes with other very bright and committed students -- it will give him a better experience generally and also help prepare him to study science in college classes. Take away all the super academic kids and his science classes may be less focused with a much lower bar. He's missing out.


Yep, it's yet another repercussion of the insane DCPS Covid policies.
The best and brightest had other options and they took them.




Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 10:24     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
I bet this will be seen in the next two years as well. There was a huge breach of trust between DCPS and students who were in MS in 2020-21 and will be in the high school classes of 2026 and 2027. Perhaps a rebound for class of 2028?
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 10:14     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:High school applications for the current seniors were due during January of the second virtual year and there was no end in sight with DCPS. If you remember, the DC private schools were back in school, the rest of the country was back in school, and yet DCPS was still virtual--again with no end in sight. And high school was looming in the fall for this grade.

Everyone who could applied to private high school. The top privates took the brightest DCPS kids. Many others did not get a private spot. For every Deal kid I knew who got a Sidwell /GDS/NCS spot there were 2 who applied but were not admitted.

As such, this class at JR was stripped of most of it's top brain power.

It's fascinating to see this play out almost 4 years later.



That's really sad and also makes me think of the trickle down effects. When you remove all the most academically focused and successful kids from a school it has negative impacts on all the kids. Because while only a small percent of kids are going to be true academic standouts there are a huge number of kids who might have one or two areas of academic interest or who have the ability to excel if properly motivated. Like you might have a kid who is a B student generally but is very passionate about science and puts a lot of effort in there. That kid should be in science classes with other very bright and committed students -- it will give him a better experience generally and also help prepare him to study science in college classes. Take away all the super academic kids and his science classes may be less focused with a much lower bar. He's missing out.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 10:05     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
High school applications for the current seniors were due during January of the second virtual year and there was no end in sight with DCPS. If you remember, the DC private schools were back in school, the rest of the country was back in school, and yet DCPS was still virtual--again with no end in sight. And high school was looming in the fall for this grade.

Everyone who could applied to private high school. The top privates took the brightest DCPS kids. Many others did not get a private spot. For every Deal kid I knew who got a Sidwell /GDS/NCS spot there were 2 who applied but were not admitted.

As such, this class at JR was stripped of most of it's top brain power.

It's fascinating to see this play out almost 4 years later.

Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 09:56     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This list is a reprisal of the 16 student fall 2020 virtual Deal 8th grade Algebra 2 class. One is at JR. The rest left for greener pastures.


I don’t think fall 2000 is representative of anything….


Oh sorry, I misunderstood. You’re saying that the JR class of 2025 lost its brightest kids due to virtual. That makes sense.


Yes! Everyone applied out due to the DCPS' never-ending virtual hell. It was like rats off a sinking ship.
The brightest kids got spots (example: 15 out of 16 kids in the top Deal math class.)

4 years later, Jackson Reed has 1 NMSF because the grade was stripped of almost all of it's strong students.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 09:46     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This list is a reprisal of the 16 student fall 2020 virtual Deal 8th grade Algebra 2 class. One is at JR. The rest left for greener pastures.


I don’t think fall 2000 is representative of anything….


Oh sorry, I misunderstood. You’re saying that the JR class of 2025 lost its brightest kids due to virtual. That makes sense.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 09:45     Subject: Re:DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Public:

Walls (6)
BASIS (3)
Latin (2)
DCI (2)
J-R (1)

Private:

Sidwell (11)
GDS (7)
STA (6)
NCS (3)
WIS (2)
SJC (2)
Maret (1)
Field (1)
Gonzaga (1)



JR is huge and lots more students than the other 4 schools above them and only had 1. i would have expected better.


I actually would expect elite privates like Maret to have more than 1 and for Visitation and Anselms to have more than zero.

Number of Presidential Scholars is a better metric in general (high SAT score in one sitting).


shhh - don’t let them hear - private school admissions are about who can pay and other non-academic factors. other than the very top like Sidwell, they have no monopoly on the smart kids.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 09:44     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:This list is a reprisal of the 16 student fall 2020 virtual Deal 8th grade Algebra 2 class. One is at JR. The rest left for greener pastures.


I don’t think fall 2000 is representative of anything….
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 09:43     Subject: Re:DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Public:

Walls (6)
BASIS (3)
Latin (2)
DCI (2)
J-R (1)

Private:

Sidwell (11)
GDS (7)
STA (6)
NCS (3)
WIS (2)
SJC (2)
Maret (1)
Field (1)
Gonzaga (1)



JR is huge and lots more students than the other 4 schools above them and only had 1. i would have expected better.


JR sucks. Very little to no learning going on.


PSAT is aptitude not content learning.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 09:42     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:I must say I'm surprised only one from Jackson-Reed and none from Burke.


yeah pretty sad for J-R. I think I read that J-R students don’t even really try on PSAT? Do they have some issue with how the administer it?
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 09:34     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:This list is a reprisal of the 16 student fall 2020 virtual Deal 8th grade Algebra 2 class. One is at JR. The rest left for greener pastures.


I only see half that many from Deal on the DC list. Did they go to Md or Va?

Where do Deal kids go if they don’t go to JR?
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 09:15     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:I know nothing about how this works. Is it just PSAT?


Yes, it based on the PSAT taken the fall of junior year.

It's definitely a test that can be studied for and it's the same material as the SAT. Kids who take prep classes for the SAT the summer before junior year do well on the PSAT.
My kids have friends who did 100 hours of tutoring that summer (in preparation for the SAT). They rocked the PSAT.

So it doesn't just really measure organic smarts but rather is heavily influenced by how much early SAT prep a kid has happened to do (not that there's anything wrong with that.)
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 09:05     Subject: DC NMSFs 2025
Anonymous wrote:I know nothing about how this works. Is it just PSAT?


Yes. But it gets you a lot of scholarship offers.