Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 2024 Mercedes has buttons and a screen. I greatly prefer the buttons.

Which buttons does it include (temp, etc)? I dislike the screen as I find it distracting and I have to take my eyes off the road to hit the right spot on the screen.

Thank you

I think you need to go the opposite way OP - All screen and learn to use your voice controls.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the equivalent of someone 30 years ago asking what new car they can buy that you can manually crank the windows.

Not really. It's pretty well documented that there's pushback from buyers on going to screens and menus, and some manufacturers are looking to bring back more buttons and knobs. To me, a better analogy would be those horrible motorized seatbelts that were all the rage back in the earl '90s. Those didn't stick around, did they?

Perfect analogy. It turned out that those motorized seatbelts were actually more dangerous because people often would forget or choose not to use the lap belt, which was still manual. The motorized seatbelt was effective only if both were used. Presumably good intentions and all, but it turns out that it was very poor design. Same will happen with the touchscreens to the total exclusion of buttons. I think the Mercedes solution a PP mentions above is likely to end up being the right answer; people want a combo of screen and buttons.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the equivalent of someone 30 years ago asking what new car they can buy that you can manually crank the windows.

Not really. It's pretty well documented that there's pushback from buyers on going to screens and menus, and some manufacturers are looking to bring back more buttons and knobs. To me, a better analogy would be those horrible motorized seatbelts that were all the rage back in the earl '90s. Those didn't stick around, did they?

pushback? only from these people

I have a 2021 Mercedes and it has a touch screen, but also a mouse like thing that you can use to change the things on the screen. It also has duplicate buttons to pick up or place a call, seat warmers and seat a/c, change temp, basically everything that's on the screen. You can also do a lot from the steering wheel.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the equivalent of someone 30 years ago asking what new car they can buy that you can manually crank the windows.

Not really. It's pretty well documented that there's pushback from buyers on going to screens and menus, and some manufacturers are looking to bring back more buttons and knobs. To me, a better analogy would be those horrible motorized seatbelts that were all the rage back in the earl '90s. Those didn't stick around, did they?

+1

Having to navigate a menu to change temperature is bad design and unsafe. I am hopeful it’s on its way out.

Anonymous wrote:This is the equivalent of someone 30 years ago asking what new car they can buy that you can manually crank the windows.

Not really. It's pretty well documented that there's pushback from buyers on going to screens and menus, and some manufacturers are looking to bring back more buttons and knobs. To me, a better analogy would be those horrible motorized seatbelts that were all the rage back in the earl '90s. Those didn't stick around, did they?

Anonymous wrote:Buy a horse.and buggy

Works well for the Amish.

Buy a horse.and buggy

Computerized vehicles are about monitoring, tracking, and selling your data OP.
YOU are the product when you buy a vehicle now.
You will have to buy older vehicles if you want pre-computer controls.

OP, I hear you. I like keys and actual gear shifters, too. As far as manually cranking the windows and locking / unlocking the door, I don't remember anything ever going wrong with this. On the other hand, windows and locks have both broken in "modern" vehicles I have had, as has the electronic parking brake.

This is the equivalent of someone 30 years ago asking what new car they can buy that you can manually crank the windows.

Anonymous wrote:I get it with the screen. I hate changing the radio stations with the screen. I’d prefer buttons so I don’t have to take my eyes off the drive. I mostly use my steering wheel buttons for volume and radio.

Very dangerous, you should be using voice commands. Do you also fumble putting the 8 track tape into the loader while driving

The Buick I just looked at had them. Don’t laugh, they have some nice vehicles.

I get it with the screen. I hate changing the radio stations with the screen. I’d prefer buttons so I don’t have to take my eyes off the drive. I mostly use my steering wheel buttons for volume and radio.

I just bought a new loaded Honda (not luxury I know) and it has real buttons for temp/air, volume, heat and cool seats, etc.