Anonymous
Post 09/10/2024 09:25     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't believe that canvas and parentvue synch at variable rates as someone suggested above.
As a programmer, that doesn't make sense.
Consistently, 2 teachers courses do not synch for weeks and the rest synch within hours to days. Surprise, surprise and the teachers who's grades do not synch also have the canvas pages set up in some quirky way such as not having a grades tab, etc.
The issue is department heads and admins are not ensuring Consistent use of canvas by teachers. Easier to blame the software than do your job.


You might be right about the grade syncing, but "does not make sense" is Synergy/ParentVue's and Canvas's design philosophy.


The issue isn't the platforms. The issue is that MCPS' director of technology sucks. Even with a less than ideal interface, tye software does what it's programmed to do. But if you don't set guidelines for the data being entered (by the teachers) and make sure the data is entered consistently than you just have a giant pig pile.
The first thing I would do is mandate admins to check every single teacher has set up "grades " in Canvas. When they don't do this and they try to use "modules" instead, the system is immediately unusable by parents.


🙄 why don’t you ask your kid. It won’t be mandated so get used to it.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2024 08:52     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't believe that canvas and parentvue synch at variable rates as someone suggested above.
As a programmer, that doesn't make sense.
Consistently, 2 teachers courses do not synch for weeks and the rest synch within hours to days. Surprise, surprise and the teachers who's grades do not synch also have the canvas pages set up in some quirky way such as not having a grades tab, etc.
The issue is department heads and admins are not ensuring Consistent use of canvas by teachers. Easier to blame the software than do your job.


You might be right about the grade syncing, but "does not make sense" is Synergy/ParentVue's and Canvas's design philosophy.


The issue isn't the platforms. The issue is that MCPS' director of technology sucks. Even with a less than ideal interface, tye software does what it's programmed to do. But if you don't set guidelines for the data being entered (by the teachers) and make sure the data is entered consistently than you just have a giant pig pile.
The first thing I would do is mandate admins to check every single teacher has set up "grades " in Canvas. When they don't do this and they try to use "modules" instead, the system is immediately unusable by parents.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 21:48     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another day another ParentVue discussion. Sigh.
OP - you've already received a few helpful responses. On PV, the grades on the page with grades is cut off, isn't it. So ridonc.


Maybe if the MCPS interface didn't look like it was designed by 1990s stoners, parents would have an easier time with it.


Haha exactly
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 21:38     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is so inconsistent..each teacher does whatever is convenient? For parents, they only see some course content and grades but not for all grades? What??


Just ignore the canvas grades. They don’t mean anything. The parentvue grades are what you want to looks at. You really only need to look at two things as a parent —
1) grades in parentvue
2) modules in canvass, which will show you what they are working on and what is due when.
Pretty much everything else is just noise.

I’ve been doing this for 7 years and it took me a while to streamline it all and figure it out.


For a billion dollar school district, MCPS deserves better than this boondoogle that makes it hard for parents to figure out how their kids are doing in school.


Either they are cheap in what platform they chose whenever they chose it. When did synergy et al start in mcps? Or the part in bold above is this district's goal??? Or both.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 20:50     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is so inconsistent..each teacher does whatever is convenient? For parents, they only see some course content and grades but not for all grades? What??


Just ignore the canvas grades. They don’t mean anything. The parentvue grades are what you want to looks at. You really only need to look at two things as a parent —
1) grades in parentvue
2) modules in canvass, which will show you what they are working on and what is due when.
Pretty much everything else is just noise.

I’ve been doing this for 7 years and it took me a while to streamline it all and figure it out.


For a billion dollar school district, MCPS deserves better than this boondoogle that makes it hard for parents to figure out how their kids are doing in school.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 20:49     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

Anonymous wrote:It is so inconsistent..each teacher does whatever is convenient? For parents, they only see some course content and grades but not for all grades? What??


Just ignore the canvas grades. They don’t mean anything. The parentvue grades are what you want to looks at. You really only need to look at two things as a parent —
1) grades in parentvue
2) modules in canvass, which will show you what they are working on and what is due when.
Pretty much everything else is just noise.

I’ve been doing this for 7 years and it took me a while to streamline it all and figure it out.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 20:12     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe that canvas and parentvue synch at variable rates as someone suggested above.
As a programmer, that doesn't make sense.
Consistently, 2 teachers courses do not synch for weeks and the rest synch within hours to days. Surprise, surprise and the teachers who's grades do not synch also have the canvas pages set up in some quirky way such as not having a grades tab, etc.
The issue is department heads and admins are not ensuring Consistent use of canvas by teachers. Easier to blame the software than do your job.


You might be right about the grade syncing, but "does not make sense" is Synergy/ParentVue's and Canvas's design philosophy.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 19:34     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

It is so inconsistent..each teacher does whatever is convenient? For parents, they only see some course content and grades but not for all grades? What??
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 18:18     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe that canvas and parentvue synch at variable rates as someone suggested above.
As a programmer, that doesn't make sense.
Consistently, 2 teachers courses do not synch for weeks and the rest synch within hours to days. Surprise, surprise and the teachers whose grades do not synch also have the canvas pages set up in some quirky way such as not having a grades tab, etc.
The issue is department heads and admins are not ensuring Consistent use of canvas by teachers. Easier to blame the software than do your job.

Teacher here. The grades tab is not supposed to be showing in Canvas per direction of central office because Synergy is the master gradebook and it was confusing for parents to see the Canvas grades in progress, which may need adjusting before synching to Synergy.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 17:33     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe that canvas and parentvue synch at variable rates as someone suggested above.
As a programmer, that doesn't make sense.
Consistently, 2 teachers courses do not synch for weeks and the rest synch within hours to days. Surprise, surprise and the teachers who's grades do not synch also have the canvas pages set up in some quirky way such as not having a grades tab, etc.
The issue is department heads and admins are not ensuring Consistent use of canvas by teachers. Easier to blame the software than do your job.


What??? lol. What a tool you are. Blame the teachers. Love DCUM. Always brings the idiots out in full force.

The issue IS that canvas is not required for grading. So your inappropriate comment about teachers not doing their job reveals you actually don’t know what or how teachers work and communicate grades. It also doesn’t always communicate with canvas because … reasons. But apparently as a programming you must have perfect code 100 percent of the time. 🙄
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 17:15     Subject: Re:Grades on ParentVue?

Anonymous wrote:As an educator and a parent, I sympathize with both sides. Real-time grades give both parents and students only a partial snapshot of how a student is doing, and students in particular can be misled by thinking they have X grade in a course, when in fact a high-stakes test or paper is not included or has not happened yet.

Unified system-wide learning-management systems (LMSs) like Canvas can be powerful, but sometimes a different medium (like pen-and-paper) or a different environment (like Google Classroom) is better for a certain assignment or for the students themselves. And while there are some situations where LMSs can enhance efficiency, there are certain kinds of work where setting up the project or exam in the digital environment can be immensely time-consuming. At my institution we are being strongly encouraged to use our LMS, but I am very grateful that right now it is not the only acceptable way to assess or grade.

All of which is to say that I completely get it when my DCs do work outside of Canvas. I'm fine with that and don't track individual assignments. When I get an email that contains a surprisingly low grade, I require DCs to take responsibility for understanding why the grade is low (is it missing? was the work subpar?) and to work to remedy it.


Thank you for this well written voice of clarity that had absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 16:58     Subject: Re:Grades on ParentVue?

As an educator and a parent, I sympathize with both sides. Real-time grades give both parents and students only a partial snapshot of how a student is doing, and students in particular can be misled by thinking they have X grade in a course, when in fact a high-stakes test or paper is not included or has not happened yet.

Unified system-wide learning-management systems (LMSs) like Canvas can be powerful, but sometimes a different medium (like pen-and-paper) or a different environment (like Google Classroom) is better for a certain assignment or for the students themselves. And while there are some situations where LMSs can enhance efficiency, there are certain kinds of work where setting up the project or exam in the digital environment can be immensely time-consuming. At my institution we are being strongly encouraged to use our LMS, but I am very grateful that right now it is not the only acceptable way to assess or grade.

All of which is to say that I completely get it when my DCs do work outside of Canvas. I'm fine with that and don't track individual assignments. When I get an email that contains a surprisingly low grade, I require DCs to take responsibility for understanding why the grade is low (is it missing? was the work subpar?) and to work to remedy it.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 16:32     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

I don't believe that canvas and parentvue synch at variable rates as someone suggested above.
As a programmer, that doesn't make sense.
Consistently, 2 teachers courses do not synch for weeks and the rest synch within hours to days. Surprise, surprise and the teachers who's grades do not synch also have the canvas pages set up in some quirky way such as not having a grades tab, etc.
The issue is department heads and admins are not ensuring Consistent use of canvas by teachers. Easier to blame the software than do your job.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 14:54     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

Anonymous wrote:Another day another ParentVue discussion. Sigh.
OP - you've already received a few helpful responses. On PV, the grades on the page with grades is cut off, isn't it. So ridonc.


Another day, another incoherent post thanks to autocorrect or lazy typing. Sigh.

OP is not the only poster asking questions on this thread.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 14:46     Subject: Grades on ParentVue?

I just discovered in Parentvue that if you click on Grade Book, you will see "View Course Content" on the right side (at least on a computer view - I don't know if it is different on the App). Once you click that, you will see a drop down menu with all the classes, and that lists the graded assignments.