Anonymous
Post 09/10/2024 22:01     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:DS is torn about whether to ED Cornell. He thinks he's a strong candidate for various reasons (attends a NY school that is a bit of a feeder, has ECs that Cornell seems to like, plus the requisite GPA + test scores). But he's a little nervous about the social scene and the reputation for being so fraternity-driven. He's a super social kid but would rather not join a frat. He's generally a nice, inclusive kid who does a lot of community building type stuff at his school. Thoughts?

He'd tempted to try for Dyson but will probably do Arts & Sciences as an econ major since Dyson has a 4% accept rate.


Cornell is a huge school.
But there are like 1000 clubs and student organizations there.
You'll find your tribe if you look.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 21:58     Subject: Re:Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:OP, your son sounds so much like mine, who's still a junior.

May I ask what other schools you're looking at that feel more like where he could find his people? What schools has he visited that he has liked? thanks and sorry for the tangent.


He liked Georgetown, CMU (the business school in both cases), Rice, and U Chicago (but I don't know that he is up for committing to ED Chicago which takes it off the table).

I realize these schools are academically competitive, and he's a fairly driven kid who is willing to do tryouts for clubs and such. But I think having a "nerdy and nice" element is ideal. He/we associate fraternities with mean-ness, drunken stupidity, bad behavior towards women, that kind of thing.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 20:37     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Different poster. My kid is also contemplating a Cornell ED. His high school is also a feeder and he has the grades/test scores and extracurriculars.

He is also apprehensive although he is probably looking for a slightly different crowd (although with some overlap as he is super social and has friends of all types.) He wants to join a fraternity and is very much a "guys guy" if that makes any sense.

Is there a niche for him as well? The kids on the tour this summer definitely read "mostly quirky, intense and super driven." It's so hard to figure this stuff out from afar.


Sounds like you should check out Duke. DS had super nice kids in his frat. No extreme drinking. Was Jewish frat.


I don't think my kid will get into Duke. Cornell is much easier from his school. He also likes Vanderbilt but again admission is harder than Cornell.

But, but, but…Cornell is an Ivy!
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 20:36     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There used to be several fraternities for need types at Cornell. Not sure if they are still there. Ski team was also fun.


What’s that


A gross way of saying kids who can't afford full price tuition?

The state school kids.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 20:26     Subject: Re:Finding your people at Cornell?
OP, your son sounds so much like mine, who's still a junior.

May I ask what other schools you're looking at that feel more like where he could find his people? What schools has he visited that he has liked? thanks and sorry for the tangent.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 14:11     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Different poster. My kid is also contemplating a Cornell ED. His high school is also a feeder and he has the grades/test scores and extracurriculars.

He is also apprehensive although he is probably looking for a slightly different crowd (although with some overlap as he is super social and has friends of all types.) He wants to join a fraternity and is very much a "guys guy" if that makes any sense.

Is there a niche for him as well? The kids on the tour this summer definitely read "mostly quirky, intense and super driven." It's so hard to figure this stuff out from afar.


Sounds like you should check out Duke. DS had super nice kids in his frat. No extreme drinking. Was Jewish frat.


I don't think my kid will get into Duke. Cornell is much easier from his school. He also likes Vanderbilt but again admission is harder than Cornell.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 13:52     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:DS is torn about whether to ED Cornell. He thinks he's a strong candidate for various reasons (attends a NY school that is a bit of a feeder, has ECs that Cornell seems to like, plus the requisite GPA + test scores). But he's a little nervous about the social scene and the reputation for being so fraternity-driven. He's a super social kid but would rather not join a frat. He's generally a nice, inclusive kid who does a lot of community building type stuff at his school. Thoughts?

He'd tempted to try for Dyson but will probably do Arts & Sciences as an econ major since Dyson has a 4% accept rate.

My DD is currently a freshman at Cornell. She's only been there a few weeks, but doesn't think the social scene is so greek driven. Cornell has a large and diverse undergraduate population. She is not very outgoing but she's already made some friends with whom she works out and goes to dinner. She's trying out for a sports club and maybe a co-ed business or pre-law fraternity. The only thing is joining a sports or business club is very competitive. You have to try out and there are cuts.

Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 12:04     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:Different poster. My kid is also contemplating a Cornell ED. His high school is also a feeder and he has the grades/test scores and extracurriculars.

He is also apprehensive although he is probably looking for a slightly different crowd (although with some overlap as he is super social and has friends of all types.) He wants to join a fraternity and is very much a "guys guy" if that makes any sense.

Is there a niche for him as well? The kids on the tour this summer definitely read "mostly quirky, intense and super driven." It's so hard to figure this stuff out from afar.


Sounds like you should check out Duke. DS had super nice kids in his frat. No extreme drinking. Was Jewish frat.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 11:57     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There used to be several fraternities for need types at Cornell. Not sure if they are still there. Ski team was also fun.


What’s that


A gross way of saying kids who can't afford full price tuition?


I assume the PP meant “nerd”.

There are a ton of fraternities - not all are “bros”.


Oh that would be much better than "need" lol
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 11:55     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There used to be several fraternities for need types at Cornell. Not sure if they are still there. Ski team was also fun.


What’s that


A gross way of saying kids who can't afford full price tuition?


I assume the PP meant “nerd”.

There are a ton of fraternities - not all are “bros”.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 11:52     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s no longer an advantage to apply to Cornell ED by the way. But that’s another conversation.



officially?


I thought the policy change that was announced during the last admissions cycle was just that Cornell was going to take fewer kids during ED -- not that ED was no longer going to be an advantage at all. In fact, among Ivy schools offering ED I think Cornell ED provides the biggest relative advantage vis-a-vis RD because a far lower percentage of the total Cornell ED admits are comprised of athletes, legacy and Questbridge due to Cornell's far larger freshman class size. Thus a bigger percentage of the ED acceptances at Cornell are unhooked than at its Ivy peers.


Anecdotally, the kids who expected to get in ED based on Naviance data were deferred and accepted RD along with other kids from the class at our school.


Same at our private school.


Same at our large public and my kid was one of them, allowing him to rethink and consider all options - he's now at Michigan instead and very happy!
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2024 11:51     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There used to be several fraternities for need types at Cornell. Not sure if they are still there. Ski team was also fun.


What’s that


A gross way of saying kids who can't afford full price tuition?
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2024 20:46     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:There used to be several fraternities for need types at Cornell. Not sure if they are still there. Ski team was also fun.


What’s that
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2024 20:05     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
There used to be several fraternities for need types at Cornell. Not sure if they are still there. Ski team was also fun.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2024 19:31     Subject: Finding your people at Cornell?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s no longer an advantage to apply to Cornell ED by the way. But that’s another conversation.



officially?


I thought the policy change that was announced during the last admissions cycle was just that Cornell was going to take fewer kids during ED -- not that ED was no longer going to be an advantage at all. In fact, among Ivy schools offering ED I think Cornell ED provides the biggest relative advantage vis-a-vis RD because a far lower percentage of the total Cornell ED admits are comprised of athletes, legacy and Questbridge due to Cornell's far larger freshman class size. Thus a bigger percentage of the ED acceptances at Cornell are unhooked than at its Ivy peers.


Anecdotally, the kids who expected to get in ED based on Naviance data were deferred and accepted RD along with other kids from the class at our school.


Same at our private school.