Anonymous wrote:What school is that? Our school is language immersion and informed us that in Fairfax, advanced math doesn't begin until 5th grade.

Varies by school and has for years

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Anonymous wrote:PPs for whoever is curious, someone went through the 2023-2024 standards versus the 2024-2025 standards for 3rd and identified the differences.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/1226968.page#28331524

The cause is a tiny bit the 2023 math standards from VDOE but mostly what looks like the E3 pilot becoming the model throughout FCPS.

Pretty surprised more 3rd grade and under parents aren't upset about this. Though I will say one advanced math teacher who was part of the E3 pilot said her kids did better on the SOL after E3 than before.

Originally E3 was named “Equity Cubed,” but it was later re-named to the “E3 Alliance.” It was developed in several Texas public school districts.

Essentially, E3 aims to “open up advanced math to everyone.” Sounds great.

However, to accomplish that goal (combine general education with advanced math), the school must eliminate separate advanced or math, and reduce the difficulty of math used in AAP, so that general education kids have a chance at grasping it.

E3 also requires the slower pace usually used in general education. This slower pace covers less material than AAP used to cover. The county touts this slower pace as “going deeper.”

The underlined is incorrect information. The E3 Network (FCPS) has nothing to do with the E3 Alliance. I agree they all feed from the same basic ideas (as did VMPI, as did the math changes in San Fran), but the poster who keeps acting as if there is some relationship between the two is doing no one a service by spreading false information. Makes it much easier to dismiss the true information mixed in.

Please stop spreading this disinformation.

Also remember that part of the goal is general education kids grasping the math so all of them can be in Algebra 1 by 8th. I strongly disagree with watering down 3rd grade advanced math, but what they are doing is not actually the exact same thing as, for ex, what was done in San Francisco. They have at least somewhat learned from that fiasco and the VMPI outcry.

Cite for “The E3 Network (FCPS)” as bolded above?

A google search turned up nothing about the quoted “network” (other than a link back here to DCUM).

Whatever this mysterious E3 happens to be, it has been implemented across FCPS this year.

It was something like Enhancing, Engaging, and Enriching Math Standards Network and it was a pilot of 10, then 20 schools who had different math in 3rd and 4th. Since it’s done it’s no longer on the FCPS website. But there’s tons of info on DCUM including posts from teachers who worked with the curriculum as a pilot who loved it and parents who hated it. It appears it’s all of FCPS now.

E3 Alliance is unrelated.

What school is that? Our school is language immersion and informed us that in Fairfax, advanced math doesn't begin until 5th grade.

As long as anyone who wants to get to Algebra 1 in 8th grade can do so, then the whole thing is fine.

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Anonymous wrote:PPs for whoever is curious, someone went through the 2023-2024 standards versus the 2024-2025 standards for 3rd and identified the differences.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/1226968.page#28331524

The cause is a tiny bit the 2023 math standards from VDOE but mostly what looks like the E3 pilot becoming the model throughout FCPS.

Pretty surprised more 3rd grade and under parents aren't upset about this. Though I will say one advanced math teacher who was part of the E3 pilot said her kids did better on the SOL after E3 than before.

Originally E3 was named “Equity Cubed,” but it was later re-named to the “E3 Alliance.” It was developed in several Texas public school districts.

Essentially, E3 aims to “open up advanced math to everyone.” Sounds great.

However, to accomplish that goal (combine general education with advanced math), the school must eliminate separate advanced or math, and reduce the difficulty of math used in AAP, so that general education kids have a chance at grasping it.

E3 also requires the slower pace usually used in general education. This slower pace covers less material than AAP used to cover. The county touts this slower pace as “going deeper.”

The underlined is incorrect information. The E3 Network (FCPS) has nothing to do with the E3 Alliance. I agree they all feed from the same basic ideas (as did VMPI, as did the math changes in San Fran), but the poster who keeps acting as if there is some relationship between the two is doing no one a service by spreading false information. Makes it much easier to dismiss the true information mixed in.

Please stop spreading this disinformation.

Also remember that part of the goal is general education kids grasping the math so all of them can be in Algebra 1 by 8th. I strongly disagree with watering down 3rd grade advanced math, but what they are doing is not actually the exact same thing as, for ex, what was done in San Francisco. They have at least somewhat learned from that fiasco and the VMPI outcry.

Cite for “The E3 Network (FCPS)” as bolded above?

A google search turned up nothing about the quoted “network” (other than a link back here to DCUM).

Whatever this mysterious E3 happens to be, it has been implemented across FCPS this year.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PPs for whoever is curious, someone went through the 2023-2024 standards versus the 2024-2025 standards for 3rd and identified the differences.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/1226968.page#28331524

The cause is a tiny bit the 2023 math standards from VDOE but mostly what looks like the E3 pilot becoming the model throughout FCPS.

Pretty surprised more 3rd grade and under parents aren't upset about this. Though I will say one advanced math teacher who was part of the E3 pilot said her kids did better on the SOL after E3 than before.

Originally E3 was named “Equity Cubed,” but it was later re-named to the “E3 Alliance.” It was developed in several Texas public school districts.

Essentially, E3 aims to “open up advanced math to everyone.” Sounds great.

However, to accomplish that goal (combine general education with advanced math), the school must eliminate separate advanced or math, and reduce the difficulty of math used in AAP, so that general education kids have a chance at grasping it.

E3 also requires the slower pace usually used in general education. This slower pace covers less material than AAP used to cover. The county touts this slower pace as “going deeper.”

The underlined is incorrect information. The E3 Network (FCPS) has nothing to do with the E3 Alliance. I agree they all feed from the same basic ideas (as did VMPI, as did the math changes in San Fran), but the poster who keeps acting as if there is some relationship between the two is doing no one a service by spreading false information. Makes it much easier to dismiss the true information mixed in.

Please stop spreading this disinformation.

Also remember that part of the goal is general education kids grasping the math so all of them can be in Algebra 1 by 8th. I strongly disagree with watering down 3rd grade advanced math, but what they are doing is not actually the exact same thing as, for ex, what was done in San Francisco. They have at least somewhat learned from that fiasco and the VMPI outcry.

Cite for “The E3 Network (FCPS)” as bolded above?

Anonymous wrote:I agree with a PP, can you ladies please take this to the AAP board? There's a reason it was created.

Out of all the kids in the "accelerated" math class only 4 come from the level IV AAP classroom. How is this only related to AAP?

Anonymous wrote:I agree with a PP, can you ladies please take this to the AAP board? There's a reason it was created.

The thing is, with advanced math push ins becoming more common this really impacts a lot more kids than full time AAP kids.

I agree with a PP, can you ladies please take this to the AAP board? There's a reason it was created.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PPs for whoever is curious, someone went through the 2023-2024 standards versus the 2024-2025 standards for 3rd and identified the differences.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/1226968.page#28331524

The cause is a tiny bit the 2023 math standards from VDOE but mostly what looks like the E3 pilot becoming the model throughout FCPS.

Pretty surprised more 3rd grade and under parents aren't upset about this. Though I will say one advanced math teacher who was part of the E3 pilot said her kids did better on the SOL after E3 than before.

Originally E3 was named “Equity Cubed,” but it was later re-named to the “E3 Alliance.” It was developed in several Texas public school districts.

Essentially, E3 aims to “open up advanced math to everyone.” Sounds great.

However, to accomplish that goal (combine general education with advanced math), the school must eliminate separate advanced or math, and reduce the difficulty of math used in AAP, so that general education kids have a chance at grasping it.

E3 also requires the slower pace usually used in general education. This slower pace covers less material than AAP used to cover. The county touts this slower pace as “going deeper.”

The underlined is incorrect information. The E3 Network (FCPS) has nothing to do with the E3 Alliance. I agree they all feed from the same basic ideas (as did VMPI, as did the math changes in San Fran), but the poster who keeps acting as if there is some relationship between the two is doing no one a service by spreading false information. Makes it much easier to dismiss the true information mixed in.

Please stop spreading this disinformation.

Also remember that part of the goal is general education kids grasping the math so all of them can be in Algebra 1 by 8th. I strongly disagree with watering down 3rd grade advanced math, but what they are doing is not actually the exact same thing as, for ex, what was done in San Francisco. They have at least somewhat learned from that fiasco and the VMPI outcry.

Anonymous wrote:PPs for whoever is curious, someone went through the 2023-2024 standards versus the 2024-2025 standards for 3rd and identified the differences.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/1226968.page#28331524

The cause is a tiny bit the 2023 math standards from VDOE but mostly what looks like the E3 pilot becoming the model throughout FCPS.

Pretty surprised more 3rd grade and under parents aren't upset about this. Though I will say one advanced math teacher who was part of the E3 pilot said her kids did better on the SOL after E3 than before.

Originally E3 was named “Equity Cubed,” but it was later re-named to the “E3 Alliance.” It was developed in several Texas public school districts.

Essentially, E3 aims to “open up advanced math to everyone.” Sounds great.

However, to accomplish that goal (combine general education with advanced math), the school must eliminate separate advanced or math, and reduce the difficulty of math used in AAP, so that general education kids have a chance at grasping it.

E3 also requires the slower pace usually used in general education. This slower pace covers less material than AAP used to cover. The county touts this slower pace as “going deeper.”

PPs for whoever is curious, someone went through the 2023-2024 standards versus the 2024-2025 standards for 3rd and identified the differences.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/1226968.page#28331524

The cause is a tiny bit the 2023 math standards from VDOE but mostly what looks like the E3 pilot becoming the model throughout FCPS.

Pretty surprised more 3rd grade and under parents aren't upset about this. Though I will say one advanced math teacher who was part of the E3 pilot said her kids did better on the SOL after E3 than before.