I’m not really opposed to large cars, but that thing is over the top. Ridiculous.

I liked the looks of the Jeep Commander better -- or the vintage Wagoneer.

13 mpg for the city. $90+ to fill.

Starting is less than $70k.

Anonymous wrote:I just looked up this car and it looks exactly like all the other anonymous big SUVs, I don’t get the freak out. Is it really that much bigger than a Yukon or an ascent or whatever?

I've never heard of it either and did not expect such a beautiful car based on op. This is nicer looking than suburbans/tahoes... it is clearly bigger than an ascent. I have never been a fan of the giant vehicles either but this one is just really good looking and I'd love it except I've made my mind to go for a compact car when my mid suv is no longer working well.

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Anonymous wrote:I just cannot fathom how people are stupid enough to blow $100k on that monstrously oversized, absolutely ghastly looking vehicle. It has got to be one of the ugliest cars I’ve ever seen. And why would any moron need to drive a tank sized vehicle like this for Costco trips, going to soccer practice, and to drop off dry cleaning?

We should be making parking spaces even smaller and less available so idiots will have awful times trying to drive these really stupid vehicles.

Interesting take. I like the car. Do not have one but it looks great both outside and in. Decent reviews. Jeep Train rated so I like that. Might be a little big but I do not see what the issue is. Some people like big cars. Not sure what your issue is. Many people feel the same way you feel except they hate small cars. I am not getting in the fight. Someday we will all have electric cars. My guess is that will be in 30 or so years when the battery technology is actually there. When that day comes --- there still will be big cars and people will drive them. You should find something else to fight against.

Some people like heroin, cocaine, and lsd too. What’s your point?


Big cars are stupid because there are more bad than good reasons to drive one. They are much, much more deadly for pedestrians and everyone around around them. They also pollute the environment much more and consume huge amounts of energy unnecessarily. They’re dumb AF vehicles. The only reason these puke worthy sized cars are allowed to exist is because of govt loopholes that the car industry lobbied for. They should be regulated as trucks that require commercial driver’s licenses to operate. No where else in the world do people drive stupidly sized cars like this.

Cars of any size are not stupid. They are not more deadly. there is no evidence of that. Keep your energy nonsense to yourself. No one cares. And as I said someday they will be electric and be that big or bigger. Not sure the point of you post other to expose yourself as not all that bright.

Wow, how to expose yourself as an utter imbecile who has no understanding of physics 101. Pray tell, how do you calculate momentum again?


Someone is completely oblivious to all of the research that has been done on this topic.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tall-trucks-suvs-are-45-deadlier-us-pedestrians-study-shows-2023-11-14/

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2018/06/28/suvs-killing-americas-pedestrians/646139002/

https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/new-study-suggests-todays-suvs-are-more-lethal-to-pedestrians-than-cars

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many people on here are complaining about the size and it's such a waste live in large houses instead of small ones, such a waste of space.

Oh wait, never mind they will justify the needed space

How will a big house kill a pedestrian or other people on the road in smaller cars? What a stupid comparison. Obscenely sized cars impose hazards on everyone else in everyday life e every single time they’re taken out on the road because they hit pedestrians in the upper body in the head, or are so heavy they obliterate other cars on the road in an accident.

Anonymous wrote:I just looked up this car and it looks exactly like all the other anonymous big SUVs, I don’t get the freak out. Is it really that much bigger than a Yukon or an ascent or whatever?

Grand wagoneer:

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 130.0 in
Length: 226.7 in
Width: 83.6 in
Height: 77.3 in
Passenger Volume: 172 ft3
Cargo Volume: 44 ft3
Curb Weight: 6428 lb

Yukon:

Wheelbase: 120.9 in
Length: 210.0 in
Width: 81.0 in
Height: 76.5 in
Passenger volume: 178 ft3
Cargo volume: 26 ft3
Curb weight: 6007 lb

Escalade:

Wheelbase: 134.1 in;
Length: 227.0;
Width: 81.1;
Height: 76.5 in;
Passenger volume: 180 ft3 ;
Cargo volume: 43 ft3 ;
Curb Weight: 6270


Ascent:

Wheelbase: 113.8 in
Length: 196.8 in
Width: 76.0 in
Height: 71.6 in
Passenger Volume, F/M/R: 60/52/36 ft3
Cargo Volume, Behind F/M/R: 73/42/18 ft3
Curb Weight: 4578 lb


The grand wagoneer is a monstrously sized ‘vehicle’. It is a foot bigger in width and length than other large SUVs. It is taller than the Escalade and even heavier than the Escalade. Sorry, but it is a r***rdedly sized vehicle. All of these suburban moron nitwits driving dumb crap like this expect to be able to drive these death machines in DC easily and also demand to have easy parking spaces for them. Utterly moronic. The people who blow $100k on these crap cars should go ride off a cliff. Everything around us would be so much better. In the interim, they should also be forced to pay much more vehicle taxes per year, because they drive ridiculously sized and heavy vehicles that tear up the roads a lot more per mile than everyone else who drives a much more reasonably sized sedan or wagon.

Anonymous wrote:I just looked up this car and it looks exactly like all the other anonymous big SUVs, I don’t get the freak out. Is it really that much bigger than a Yukon or an ascent or whatever?

To me, it does look different. Yes, it is bigger than a Yukon or Ascent.

I wonder how many people on here are complaining about the size and it's such a waste live in large houses instead of small ones, such a waste of space.

Oh wait, never mind they will justify the needed space

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Anonymous wrote:I just cannot fathom how people are stupid enough to blow $100k on that monstrously oversized, absolutely ghastly looking vehicle. It has got to be one of the ugliest cars I’ve ever seen. And why would any moron need to drive a tank sized vehicle like this for Costco trips, going to soccer practice, and to drop off dry cleaning?

We should be making parking spaces even smaller and less available so idiots will have awful times trying to drive these really stupid vehicles.

Interesting take. I like the car. Do not have one but it looks great both outside and in. Decent reviews. Jeep Train rated so I like that. Might be a little big but I do not see what the issue is. Some people like big cars. Not sure what your issue is. Many people feel the same way you feel except they hate small cars. I am not getting in the fight. Someday we will all have electric cars. My guess is that will be in 30 or so years when the battery technology is actually there. When that day comes --- there still will be big cars and people will drive them. You should find something else to fight against.

Some people like heroin, cocaine, and lsd too. What’s your point?


Big cars are stupid because there are more bad than good reasons to drive one. They are much, much more deadly for pedestrians and everyone around around them. They also pollute the environment much more and consume huge amounts of energy unnecessarily. They’re dumb AF vehicles. The only reason these puke worthy sized cars are allowed to exist is because of govt loopholes that the car industry lobbied for. They should be regulated as trucks that require commercial driver’s licenses to operate. No where else in the world do people drive stupidly sized cars like this.

Cars of any size are not stupid. They are not more deadly. there is no evidence of that. Keep your energy nonsense to yourself. No one cares. And as I said someday they will be electric and be that big or bigger. Not sure the point of you post other to expose yourself as not all that bright.

Anonymous wrote:I am admittedly not a car person but I do get annoyed by people who try to claim that having a giant car like this is a necessity for a three-kid family. It absolutely is not - it is a luxury, and that is fine, but don't pretend you you can't possibly have a family of five without driving a $100k vehicle to and from Costco and ballet.

Yeah, but it is a ‘luxury’ that kills *other* people or significantly increases the risk for bodily harm to pedestrians and other people on the road because of its stupidly monstrous size. I also wastes huge amounts of fuel unnecessarily.

I just looked up this car and it looks exactly like all the other anonymous big SUVs, I don’t get the freak out. Is it really that much bigger than a Yukon or an ascent or whatever?

I am admittedly not a car person but I do get annoyed by people who try to claim that having a giant car like this is a necessity for a three-kid family. It absolutely is not - it is a luxury, and that is fine, but don't pretend you you can't possibly have a family of five without driving a $100k vehicle to and from Costco and ballet.

Anonymous wrote:I've never liked large cars of any type. I understand minivans and trucks, for passengers and cargo respectively. But Jeeps and such? You're not off-roading on the ranch!

But some people are?

I've never liked large cars of any type. I understand minivans and trucks, for passengers and cargo respectively. But Jeeps and such? You're not off-roading on the ranch!