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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, they're 11, and not fully into puberty yet.

Promising genetics? Do they work really hard? Are they competitive? Passionate?

If you have these things it might get better.

Both parents swam D1. I'm worried that's the only reason they're keeping at it, and I don't want any of my kids doing something just to impress me. I love them as they are.

As a former D1 swimmer myself, what do you make of their technique? If one’s technique is good and they still aren’t making B times, it’s only what’s inside them that is truly preventing them from getting those times

What do you mean by “what’s inside them?” Every swimmer with good technique is not going to be fast.

Honestly, kids with actual proper technique are able to make B times. B times are not that fast, it means the time is in the top 55% for that age group and stroke.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, they're 11, and not fully into puberty yet.

Promising genetics? Do they work really hard? Are they competitive? Passionate?

If you have these things it might get better.

Both parents swam D1. I'm worried that's the only reason they're keeping at it, and I don't want any of my kids doing something just to impress me. I love them as they are.

As a former D1 swimmer myself, what do you make of their technique? If one’s technique is good and they still aren’t making B times, it’s only what’s inside them that is truly preventing them from getting those times

What do you mean by “what’s inside them?” Every swimmer with good technique is not going to be fast.

DP. Define "good technique" and "fast". My kid's technique is both "good" and is very fast (A and AA times). And yet her coach watched her technique and said several times that he can "fix" her technique so that she's faster (his top swimmers routinely get AAA and AAAA times.

As for "what's inside them," this refers to: (i) being coachable, and (ii) having the internal drive to put in the work.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, they're 11, and not fully into puberty yet.

Promising genetics? Do they work really hard? Are they competitive? Passionate?

If you have these things it might get better.

Both parents swam D1. I'm worried that's the only reason they're keeping at it, and I don't want any of my kids doing something just to impress me. I love them as they are.

As a former D1 swimmer myself, what do you make of their technique? If one’s technique is good and they still aren’t making B times, it’s only what’s inside them that is truly preventing them from getting those times

What do you mean by “what’s inside them?” Every swimmer with good technique is not going to be fast.

Anonymous wrote:Kid swam for 9 years (just graduated) and never made B times. He loves swimming, loved being on the team, and just had fun with his friends. He is going to swim in college on the club team.

But that's different than the OP's situation. OP's kids are frustrated about not dropping time.

Kid swam for 9 years (just graduated) and never made B times. He loves swimming, loved being on the team, and just had fun with his friends. He is going to swim in college on the club team.

Anonymous wrote:My kid did club for 2 years and never made B times either. I would have let her keep doing it if she wanted to though because it’s great exercise.
Talk to your kid but ultimately leave it up to them.

True, but you need to be a parent and help them work through their frustration at not making B times. Kids need to understand that if they want to achieve a goal, then they need to have a plan. Otherwise it's not a goal - just an unattainable dream.

Anonymous wrote:In other clubs they have. C and D times. I don't know why this area doesn't have them as well and why USA swimming won't post them.

USA swimming’s slowest time standard is B. It’s been that way for at least 30 years. Any C or D times are made up, very local, and very unofficial.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/timesdocuments/time-standards/2024/2021-2024-national-age-group-motivational-times.pdf

Anonymous wrote:In other clubs they have. C and D times. I don't know why this area doesn't have them as well and why USA swimming won't post them.

Aren't those made up by the clubs? Internal time standards? I have heard of these before but I thought the minimum for the standards was B.

My kid did club for 2 years and never made B times either. I would have let her keep doing it if she wanted to though because it’s great exercise.
Talk to your kid but ultimately leave it up to them.

In other clubs they have. C and D times. I don't know why this area doesn't have them as well and why USA swimming won't post them.