Anonymous
08/23/2024 17:01
Subject: Re:Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.
If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:
10th grade 4+ scores
BASIS DC
ELA >95.0
Math 89.2
Walls
ELA 95.4
Math 40.9
Banneker
ELA 91.8
Math 46.1
J-R
ELA 66.3
Math 11.3
Latin
ELA 65.9
Math<10.0
DCI
ELA 36.2
Math 6.3
Wow-impressive numbers.
Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.
Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.
Anonymous
08/23/2024 16:58
Subject: Re:Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.
If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:
10th grade 4+ scores
BASIS DC
ELA >95.0
Math 89.2
Walls
ELA 95.4
Math 40.9
Banneker
ELA 91.8
Math 46.1
J-R
ELA 66.3
Math 11.3
Latin
ELA 65.9
Math <10.0
DCI
ELA 36.2
Math 6.3
Impressive!
Anonymous
08/23/2024 16:53
Subject: Re:Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.
If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:
10th grade 4+ scores
BASIS DC
ELA >95.0
Math 89.2
Walls
ELA 95.4
Math 40.9
Banneker
ELA 91.8
Math 46.1
J-R
ELA 66.3
Math 11.3
Latin
ELA 65.9
Math<10.0
DCI
ELA 36.2
Math 6.3
Wow-impressive numbers.
Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.
Anonymous
08/23/2024 16:51
Subject: Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big improvement at Two Rivers, all campuses.
Slight dip at ITDS.
I don't mean this as a jab to Two Rivers, just want to make sure I am looking at site correctly. I went to the EmpowerEd site, and sorted by performance of 'all students'. When I sorted by school, it looked like they dropped 2-4% from last year's scores, and a range of 3-21% less than pre-pandemic. Again, not judging that school at all, and I think the emphasis on these tests is not the best way to use our energy. But just wanted to ask if I was looking at that data incorrectly before I started looking at other data.
It's totally possible that I'm doing it wrong. You have to be really careful looking at all the subgroups and it's easy to mess it up.
Not PP but it automatically sets to at risk group so you need to change drop down to all students.
IMO that is the strongest way to interpret these test results. If a school improves its scores bc the demographics shift and they have more affluent kids it doesn't mean as much to me. Schools that do the best job at chipping away at the achievement gap should be celebrated the most.
This is not necessarily true. Reality is that the teachers focus all their time on the lowest performing kids to help them improve and your high performing kid is the “helper” or gets placed on computer programs. That is how they move the needle just a little. it’s impossible to differentiate when the achievement gap is so large and the pressure from DCPS is on the lowest performing. They could care less if your kid is not learning much because your kid is on grade level and “fine”.
Anonymous
08/23/2024 16:51
Subject: Re:Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Interesting data.
If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:
10th grade 4+ scores
BASIS DC
ELA >95.0
Math 89.2
Walls
ELA 95.4
Math 40.9
Banneker
ELA 91.8
Math 46.1
J-R
ELA 66.3
Math 11.3
Latin
ELA 65.9
Math <10.0
DCI
ELA 36.2
Math 6.3
If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:
10th grade 4+ scores
BASIS DC
ELA >95.0
Math 89.2
Walls
ELA 95.4
Math 40.9
Banneker
ELA 91.8
Math 46.1
J-R
ELA 66.3
Math 11.3
Latin
ELA 65.9
Math <10.0
DCI
ELA 36.2
Math 6.3
Anonymous
08/23/2024 14:13
Subject: Re:Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Anonymous wrote:Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Geometry CAPE:
Latin - 35
DCI - 18
Deal - data suppressed, >95%
Hardy - data suppressed, >95%
Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Algebra 1 CAPE:
Deal - 247
Hardy - 85
MacFarland - 33
Oyster-Adams - 32
Latin - 32
Stuart-Hobson - 30
Eliot-Hine - 27
DC Prep Edgewood - 23
ITDS - 23
DC Prep Benning - 18
Two Rivers - 18
Wells - 12
Jefferson - 12
CHEC - 12
Francis-Stevens - 11
My kid is a mathy student at DCI and reported that there were a lot of questions that were unfamiliar on the geometry test, but that may be because DCI does geometry differently, it's two years of combined algebra 1/geometry.
Anonymous
08/23/2024 13:47
Subject: Re:Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Geometry CAPE:
Latin - 35
DCI - 18
Deal - data suppressed, >95%
Hardy - data suppressed, >95%
Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Algebra 1 CAPE:
Deal - 247
Hardy - 85
MacFarland - 33
Oyster-Adams - 32
Latin - 32
Stuart-Hobson - 30
Eliot-Hine - 27
DC Prep Edgewood - 23
ITDS - 23
DC Prep Benning - 18
Two Rivers - 18
Wells - 12
Jefferson - 12
CHEC - 12
Francis-Stevens - 11
Latin - 35
DCI - 18
Deal - data suppressed, >95%
Hardy - data suppressed, >95%
Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Algebra 1 CAPE:
Deal - 247
Hardy - 85
MacFarland - 33
Oyster-Adams - 32
Latin - 32
Stuart-Hobson - 30
Eliot-Hine - 27
DC Prep Edgewood - 23
ITDS - 23
DC Prep Benning - 18
Two Rivers - 18
Wells - 12
Jefferson - 12
CHEC - 12
Francis-Stevens - 11
Anonymous
08/23/2024 13:46
Subject: Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Anonymous wrote:Huge drop at Seaton in 4+ test results compared to last year -- down 6 pts in ELA and 5.3 points in Math.
The drop compared to 2019 in 3+ scores is even worse, like 19 percent in Math. Totally horrifying. In 2019, there was not a single "gentrifier" kid in the testing grades, but the school pushed for excellences in all the kids. Now, Seaton has 100 gentrifiers and the scores are dropping.
Anonymous
08/23/2024 13:42
Subject: Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big improvement at Two Rivers, all campuses.
Slight dip at ITDS.
I don't mean this as a jab to Two Rivers, just want to make sure I am looking at site correctly. I went to the EmpowerEd site, and sorted by performance of 'all students'. When I sorted by school, it looked like they dropped 2-4% from last year's scores, and a range of 3-21% less than pre-pandemic. Again, not judging that school at all, and I think the emphasis on these tests is not the best way to use our energy. But just wanted to ask if I was looking at that data incorrectly before I started looking at other data.
It's totally possible that I'm doing it wrong. You have to be really careful looking at all the subgroups and it's easy to mess it up.
Not PP but it automatically sets to at risk group so you need to change drop down to all students.
IMO that is the strongest way to interpret these test results. If a school improves its scores bc the demographics shift and they have more affluent kids it doesn't mean as much to me. Schools that do the best job at chipping away at the achievement gap should be celebrated the most.
I have a high achieving kid and could care less about the at risk. It doesn’t apply to my kid.
I absolutely care about the percentages of kids performing at or above grade level. The huger the better and I don’t care what SES level the kids are. It means content can actually be taught at grade level as your floor.
Feel free to send your kid with 70% plus below grade level but I won’t be.
Anonymous
08/23/2024 13:38
Subject: Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big improvement at Two Rivers, all campuses.
Slight dip at ITDS.
I don't mean this as a jab to Two Rivers, just want to make sure I am looking at site correctly. I went to the EmpowerEd site, and sorted by performance of 'all students'. When I sorted by school, it looked like they dropped 2-4% from last year's scores, and a range of 3-21% less than pre-pandemic. Again, not judging that school at all, and I think the emphasis on these tests is not the best way to use our energy. But just wanted to ask if I was looking at that data incorrectly before I started looking at other data.
It's totally possible that I'm doing it wrong. You have to be really careful looking at all the subgroups and it's easy to mess it up.
Not PP but it automatically sets to at risk group so you need to change drop down to all students.
IMO that is the strongest way to interpret these test results. If a school improves its scores bc the demographics shift and they have more affluent kids it doesn't mean as much to me. Schools that do the best job at chipping away at the achievement gap should be celebrated the most.
That’s not the only reason people look at the data, though.
True, but in addition to caring about the achievement gap, it also shows stronger teacher quality, which a lot of parents care about. Less experienced/qualified teachers can teach high achieving cohorts and test scores wouldn't indicate much of a difference.
Anonymous
08/23/2024 13:36
Subject: Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge drop at Seaton in 4+ test results compared to last year -- down 6 pts in ELA and 5.3 points in Math.
(Math is also down 10.3 points in Math compared to 2019, and down 5.2 in ELA compared to 2019. This is alarming.)
Sad. It used to be a gem! I think the loss of the former principal ,maybe?
100 percent due to the change in principals. It is really sad.
Anonymous
08/23/2024 13:32
Subject: Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge drop at Seaton in 4+ test results compared to last year -- down 6 pts in ELA and 5.3 points in Math.
(Math is also down 10.3 points in Math compared to 2019, and down 5.2 in ELA compared to 2019. This is alarming.)
Sad. It used to be a gem! I think the loss of the former principal ,maybe?
Anonymous
08/23/2024 13:31
Subject: Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Anonymous wrote:Huge drop at Seaton in 4+ test results compared to last year -- down 6 pts in ELA and 5.3 points in Math.
(Math is also down 10.3 points in Math compared to 2019, and down 5.2 in ELA compared to 2019. This is alarming.)
Anonymous
08/23/2024 13:30
Subject: Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Huge drop at Seaton in 4+ test results compared to last year -- down 6 pts in ELA and 5.3 points in Math.
Anonymous
08/23/2024 13:27
Subject: Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)
Anonymous wrote:Oh wow, they got that up fast. Well done!
Last year I don't think these posted until October? Way faster.