Anonymous
08/21/2024 21:57
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Send some in. That sounds like a failure to order vs budget costs. Real budget cuts are preschool, autism program, trades program, and mva.
Sounds like the OP is a teacher. Are you expected to take in your own toilet paper to work while your boss wastes millions of dollars on useless garbage?
No, but as a parent, this has been going on for years, and those of us who can donate, and are good people regularly send in extra supplies, tissues, wipes, etc. to make sure all kids have it and teachers have what they need.
The BOE needs to be held accountable but in the meanwhile, be decent and buy a few extra supplies for the classroom, especially with things on sale right now.
It’s much more complicated than asking parents to chip in. It’s lovely when those that can, do. But we can’t expect families to do what the school should budget for IMO. Title 1 schools, middle schools, high schools - we are on our own pretty much to stock our classrooms. It’s starting to get to be too much having to constantly shop for not only my house, but my classroom too.
MCPS has never provided those things and it is unreasonable. But, then you have to get donations. You cannot count on MCPS for anything anymore.
?? Yes they have. I had plenty at my middle school last year provided by mcps. And yes. It also can depend on the competency those in charge of ordering. Huge financial differences between families in this area so donations cannot be relied on - I’ve never been allowed to ask for donations post pandemic. And that wasn’t just at one school. Not sure what’s going on but thanks for telling me what’s unreasonable at my job.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 21:49
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Send some in. That sounds like a failure to order vs budget costs. Real budget cuts are preschool, autism program, trades program, and mva.
Sounds like the OP is a teacher. Are you expected to take in your own toilet paper to work while your boss wastes millions of dollars on useless garbage?
No, but as a parent, this has been going on for years, and those of us who can donate, and are good people regularly send in extra supplies, tissues, wipes, etc. to make sure all kids have it and teachers have what they need.
The BOE needs to be held accountable but in the meanwhile, be decent and buy a few extra supplies for the classroom, especially with things on sale right now.
It’s much more complicated than asking parents to chip in. It’s lovely when those that can, do. But we can’t expect families to do what the school should budget for IMO. Title 1 schools, middle schools, high schools - we are on our own pretty much to stock our classrooms. It’s starting to get to be too much having to constantly shop for not only my house, but my classroom too.
Then stop shopping for the classroom. Things will only change when teachers stop doing this. As long as ya’ll keep doing so, school boards and communities will keep letting you do it.
It will not change. It hasn't changed in many years. So, why would you want kids or teachers to go without when you can shop sales right now and get a lot for an extra $20-50? I will always donate supplies and food if needed. If I couldn't afford it, I'd appreciate someone doing it for our family.
I don’t want teachers or kids to go without and do supply extra items. However, I know that is a bandaid not a solution and don’t expect Teachers to make up the difference. Just saying kids and teachers will go without is not the same as that reality coming to bear. Teacher wish list should not include paper towels for the bathroom or Clorox wipes for cleaning up the classroom or 100’s of pencils because their classroom is not appropriately resources and/or kids are not treating stuff correctly.
And there is a difference between need and wants. If folks want all the bells and whistles then they need to be willing to fund it via taxes and pay attention to the budget for both the school districts and county to ensure funds are being used as desired.
I have no issue buying more or those things but where I have an issue is we had one teacher with a huge stockpile, of which I donated several very large paper shopping bags and when my kid ran out of pencils instead of replacing it with one I aready bought and donated she emailed asking me to send more (which I did but I also stopped donating regularly to her knowing she was hoarding the stuff).
Anonymous
08/21/2024 21:37
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Send some in. That sounds like a failure to order vs budget costs. Real budget cuts are preschool, autism program, trades program, and mva.
Sounds like the OP is a teacher. Are you expected to take in your own toilet paper to work while your boss wastes millions of dollars on useless garbage?
No, but as a parent, this has been going on for years, and those of us who can donate, and are good people regularly send in extra supplies, tissues, wipes, etc. to make sure all kids have it and teachers have what they need.
The BOE needs to be held accountable but in the meanwhile, be decent and buy a few extra supplies for the classroom, especially with things on sale right now.
It’s much more complicated than asking parents to chip in. It’s lovely when those that can, do. But we can’t expect families to do what the school should budget for IMO. Title 1 schools, middle schools, high schools - we are on our own pretty much to stock our classrooms. It’s starting to get to be too much having to constantly shop for not only my house, but my classroom too.
MCPS has never provided those things and it is unreasonable. But, then you have to get donations. You cannot count on MCPS for anything anymore.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 21:36
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
If your school doesn't have supplies, the secretary didn't do ordering or did it late and it hasn't arrived. The freeze ended July 1st and our admin secretary sent out an email asking for items that were needed. We came back this week to a full stock of supplies.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 19:27
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Teachers, please let the PtA know what you need so they can do a sign up genius. I’m constantly getting asked to send in snacks for teacher meetings, which I can also do, but if you need tissue paper and chlorox wipes, we are happy to send that as well.
I’m ES, that was done basically every year but there doesn’t seem to be a norm for the MS and HS teachers to do this.
I’m ES, that was done basically every year but there doesn’t seem to be a norm for the MS and HS teachers to do this.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 19:07
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Send some in. That sounds like a failure to order vs budget costs. Real budget cuts are preschool, autism program, trades program, and mva.
Sounds like the OP is a teacher. Are you expected to take in your own toilet paper to work while your boss wastes millions of dollars on useless garbage?
No, but as a parent, this has been going on for years, and those of us who can donate, and are good people regularly send in extra supplies, tissues, wipes, etc. to make sure all kids have it and teachers have what they need.
The BOE needs to be held accountable but in the meanwhile, be decent and buy a few extra supplies for the classroom, especially with things on sale right now.
It’s much more complicated than asking parents to chip in. It’s lovely when those that can, do. But we can’t expect families to do what the school should budget for IMO. Title 1 schools, middle schools, high schools - we are on our own pretty much to stock our classrooms. It’s starting to get to be too much having to constantly shop for not only my house, but my classroom too.
Then stop shopping for the classroom. Things will only change when teachers stop doing this. As long as ya’ll keep doing so, school boards and communities will keep letting you do it.
It will not change. It hasn't changed in many years. So, why would you want kids or teachers to go without when you can shop sales right now and get a lot for an extra $20-50? I will always donate supplies and food if needed. If I couldn't afford it, I'd appreciate someone doing it for our family.
I don’t want teachers or kids to go without and do supply extra items. However, I know that is a bandaid not a solution and don’t expect Teachers to make up the difference. Just saying kids and teachers will go without is not the same as that reality coming to bear. Teacher wish list should not include paper towels for the bathroom or Clorox wipes for cleaning up the classroom or 100’s of pencils because their classroom is not appropriately resources and/or kids are not treating stuff correctly.
And there is a difference between need and wants. If folks want all the bells and whistles then they need to be willing to fund it via taxes and pay attention to the budget for both the school districts and county to ensure funds are being used as desired.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 18:52
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:26 kids in kindergarten classes.
This is awful.
This is where we need to prioritize. 29 in 1st. I think parents would gladly pay for an aide as in other districts, but MCPS won't allow it. Many would probably be open to a plan where parents pay for an aide for their school as well as for another less resourced school, but they won't allow that either.
This has been normal since MCPS started. This is nothing new.
The class size increase, making the benefit of an aide even greater, is new. As are the increase in behavioral issues (and lack of capacity and/or willingness to deal with them) noted upthread.
The behavior has always been an issue but its worse as MCPS refuses to hold anyone accountable for their behavior. Behavior would improve with stricter teachers, more structured classes, involving parents interested in being involved, consequences for poor behavior... an aid will help but its not going to fix the problems.
I am for all of these. Shutting out extra resources seems like a missed opportunity though.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 18:50
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Send some in. That sounds like a failure to order vs budget costs. Real budget cuts are preschool, autism program, trades program, and mva.
Sounds like the OP is a teacher. Are you expected to take in your own toilet paper to work while your boss wastes millions of dollars on useless garbage?
No, but as a parent, this has been going on for years, and those of us who can donate, and are good people regularly send in extra supplies, tissues, wipes, etc. to make sure all kids have it and teachers have what they need.
The BOE needs to be held accountable but in the meanwhile, be decent and buy a few extra supplies for the classroom, especially with things on sale right now.
It’s much more complicated than asking parents to chip in. It’s lovely when those that can, do. But we can’t expect families to do what the school should budget for IMO. Title 1 schools, middle schools, high schools - we are on our own pretty much to stock our classrooms. It’s starting to get to be too much having to constantly shop for not only my house, but my classroom too.
Then stop shopping for the classroom. Things will only change when teachers stop doing this. As long as ya’ll keep doing so, school boards and communities will keep letting you do it.
It will not change. It hasn't changed in many years. So, why would you want kids or teachers to go without when you can shop sales right now and get a lot for an extra $20-50? I will always donate supplies and food if needed. If I couldn't afford it, I'd appreciate someone doing it for our family.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 18:47
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Send some in. That sounds like a failure to order vs budget costs. Real budget cuts are preschool, autism program, trades program, and mva.
Sounds like the OP is a teacher. Are you expected to take in your own toilet paper to work while your boss wastes millions of dollars on useless garbage?
No, but as a parent, this has been going on for years, and those of us who can donate, and are good people regularly send in extra supplies, tissues, wipes, etc. to make sure all kids have it and teachers have what they need.
The BOE needs to be held accountable but in the meanwhile, be decent and buy a few extra supplies for the classroom, especially with things on sale right now.
It’s much more complicated than asking parents to chip in. It’s lovely when those that can, do. But we can’t expect families to do what the school should budget for IMO. Title 1 schools, middle schools, high schools - we are on our own pretty much to stock our classrooms. It’s starting to get to be too much having to constantly shop for not only my house, but my classroom too.
Then stop shopping for the classroom. Things will only change when teachers stop doing this. As long as ya’ll keep doing so, school boards and communities will keep letting you do it.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 18:43
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Send some in. That sounds like a failure to order vs budget costs. Real budget cuts are preschool, autism program, trades program, and mva.
Sounds like the OP is a teacher. Are you expected to take in your own toilet paper to work while your boss wastes millions of dollars on useless garbage?
No, but as a parent, this has been going on for years, and those of us who can donate, and are good people regularly send in extra supplies, tissues, wipes, etc. to make sure all kids have it and teachers have what they need.
The BOE needs to be held accountable but in the meanwhile, be decent and buy a few extra supplies for the classroom, especially with things on sale right now.
It’s much more complicated than asking parents to chip in. It’s lovely when those that can, do. But we can’t expect families to do what the school should budget for IMO. Title 1 schools, middle schools, high schools - we are on our own pretty much to stock our classrooms. It’s starting to get to be too much having to constantly shop for not only my house, but my classroom too.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 18:32
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:26 kids in kindergarten classes.
This is awful.
This is where we need to prioritize. 29 in 1st. I think parents would gladly pay for an aide as in other districts, but MCPS won't allow it. Many would probably be open to a plan where parents pay for an aide for their school as well as for another less resourced school, but they won't allow that either.
This has been normal since MCPS started. This is nothing new.
The class size increase, making the benefit of an aide even greater, is new. As are the increase in behavioral issues (and lack of capacity and/or willingness to deal with them) noted upthread.
The behavior has always been an issue but its worse as MCPS refuses to hold anyone accountable for their behavior. Behavior would improve with stricter teachers, more structured classes, involving parents interested in being involved, consequences for poor behavior... an aid will help but its not going to fix the problems.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 18:08
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:26 kids in kindergarten classes.
This is awful.
This is where we need to prioritize. 29 in 1st. I think parents would gladly pay for an aide as in other districts, but MCPS won't allow it. Many would probably be open to a plan where parents pay for an aide for their school as well as for another less resourced school, but they won't allow that either.
This has been normal since MCPS started. This is nothing new.
The class size increase, making the benefit of an aide even greater, is new. As are the increase in behavioral issues (and lack of capacity and/or willingness to deal with them) noted upthread.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 18:05
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:26 kids in kindergarten classes.
This is awful.
This is where we need to prioritize. 29 in 1st. I think parents would gladly pay for an aide as in other districts, but MCPS won't allow it. Many would probably be open to a plan where parents pay for an aide for their school as well as for another less resourced school, but they won't allow that either.
This has been normal since MCPS started. This is nothing new.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 18:04
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Send some in. That sounds like a failure to order vs budget costs. Real budget cuts are preschool, autism program, trades program, and mva.
Sounds like the OP is a teacher. Are you expected to take in your own toilet paper to work while your boss wastes millions of dollars on useless garbage?
No, but as a parent, this has been going on for years, and those of us who can donate, and are good people regularly send in extra supplies, tissues, wipes, etc. to make sure all kids have it and teachers have what they need.
The BOE needs to be held accountable but in the meanwhile, be decent and buy a few extra supplies for the classroom, especially with things on sale right now.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 17:41
Subject: The Sting of Budget Cuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:26 kids in kindergarten classes.
This is awful.
It's not new. My 16 yr old had that number when they were in Ker.
Sure. And it wasn't good then or now with more disciplinary problems all around.
Sure, but 9 years ago, they had the same class size issues that you see today, so it's not due to budget cuts.