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Anonymous wrote:People who get upset about wins and losses in a sport with judges crack me up.

The judging issues in these instances are all objective questions. These issues could happen in any sport, for instance, was her foot in bounds or out of bounds and did she complete a full 360 degrees. No one is challenging anything subjective. It's no different than issues with refs that come up in the NFL or questions about stepping out of a lane in track.

Sure it is. Because it’s still a sport where people oick winners, unlike a football game or race or basketball or baseball game. It’s always based on opinions. Who cares.

They don’t pick winners, they assign scores. And this is no different than a ruling for another sport that can turn a game. An ump can call a ball a 3rd strike and end an inning where otherwise the runner would have walked and could have been a winning run scored if the bases were loaded. Another ump can call a ball in or out in tennis, volleyball, football, etc and been wrong. Human errors happen.

Wrong the whole judging is totally different from the team sport examples you are trying to compare them to. Nice try though

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Anonymous wrote:So the judges gave Jordan the wrong score
US was seconds late asking for a rescore
Jordan's real score is 3rd place but 5th due to a technicality

Is that right?

Jordan's real score was 4th if you also ignore the technicality that cost Sabrina the medal. If you count technicalities, Chiles is 5th, if you count what the gymnasts should have scored with competent judging, she's 4th. She's only 3rd if you count her appeal and continue to discount Sabrina's appeal.

The crazy part is that Ana is getting the medal with the 5th best performance.

The judges have never actually looked at Sabrina's appeal and they have the potential to find other deductions if they rescore her (the performance is reconsidered as a whole and scores can go up or down in an inquirt) so it's not clear where she'd place if her appeal was granted. Romania argues that she'd gain 0.1, but that's not been decided by the judges.

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Anonymous wrote:I am truly baffled. The judges mess up the scoring and have acknowledged this, but the athletes pay the price?
They need a new system, and new judges.

This is what I don't understand. Why are the athletes stuck in the middle here? Why can't the judges admit their mistake(s)? Why is Jordan going to be the first Olympic athlete to have a medal stripped due to judging issues (the others were due to doping or cheating)?

I really think if it was just two athletes, IOC would give them both medals. But it's a mess here because three athletes would have to get a medal and that's considered too many.

Too many bronze medals? They are cheap trinkets. I don’t think that’s the issue here.

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Anonymous wrote:People who get upset about wins and losses in a sport with judges crack me up.

The judging issues in these instances are all objective questions. These issues could happen in any sport, for instance, was her foot in bounds or out of bounds and did she complete a full 360 degrees. No one is challenging anything subjective. It's no different than issues with refs that come up in the NFL or questions about stepping out of a lane in track.

Sure it is. Because it’s still a sport where people oick winners, unlike a football game or race or basketball or baseball game. It’s always based on opinions. Who cares.

They don’t pick winners, they assign scores. And this is no different than a ruling for another sport that can turn a game. An ump can call a ball a 3rd strike and end an inning where otherwise the runner would have walked and could have been a winning run scored if the bases were loaded. Another ump can call a ball in or out in tennis, volleyball, football, etc and been wrong. Human errors happen.

Anonymous wrote:So the judges gave Jordan the wrong score
US was seconds late asking for a rescore
Jordan's real score is 3rd place but 5th due to a technicality

Is that right?

Jordan's real score was 4th if you also ignore the technicality that cost Sabrina the medal. If you count technicalities, Chiles is 5th, if you count what the gymnasts should have scored with competent judging, she's 4th. She's only 3rd if you count her appeal and continue to discount Sabrina's appeal.

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Anonymous wrote:I am truly baffled. The judges mess up the scoring and have acknowledged this, but the athletes pay the price?
They need a new system, and new judges.

This is what I don't understand. Why are the athletes stuck in the middle here? Why can't the judges admit their mistake(s)? Why is Jordan going to be the first Olympic athlete to have a medal stripped due to judging issues (the others were due to doping or cheating)?

I really think if it was just two athletes, IOC would give them both medals. But it's a mess here because three athletes would have to get a medal and that's considered too many.

Anonymous wrote:So the judges gave Jordan the wrong score
US was seconds late asking for a rescore
Jordan's real score is 3rd place but 5th due to a technicality

Is that right?

And the US has video evidence that shows that they weren't late in asking for a rescore, but CAS has said they don't have a procedure to look at it

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am truly baffled. The judges mess up the scoring and have acknowledged this, but the athletes pay the price?
They need a new system, and new judges.

This is what I don't understand. Why are the athletes stuck in the middle here? Why can't the judges admit their mistake(s)? Why is Jordan going to be the first Olympic athlete to have a medal stripped due to judging issues (the others were due to doping or cheating)?

Correction: first BLACK Olympic athlete to have her medal stripped from her.

So the judges gave Jordan the wrong score
US was seconds late asking for a rescore
Jordan's real score is 3rd place but 5th due to a technicality

Is that right?

Anonymous wrote:I am truly baffled. The judges mess up the scoring and have acknowledged this, but the athletes pay the price?
They need a new system, and new judges.

This is what I don't understand. Why are the athletes stuck in the middle here? Why can't the judges admit their mistake(s)? Why is Jordan going to be the first Olympic athlete to have a medal stripped due to judging issues (the others were due to doping or cheating)?

I am truly baffled. The judges mess up the scoring and have acknowledged this, but the athletes pay the price?
They need a new system, and new judges.

Anonymous wrote:The judges should be banned from ever judging another olympics event.

It would be petty, but the US should deny visas to anyone involved (from the IOC to FIG all the way down to the judges) for 2028.

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Anonymous wrote:People who get upset about wins and losses in a sport with judges crack me up.

The judging issues in these instances are all objective questions. These issues could happen in any sport, for instance, was her foot in bounds or out of bounds and did she complete a full 360 degrees. No one is challenging anything subjective. It's no different than issues with refs that come up in the NFL or questions about stepping out of a lane in track.

Sure it is. Because it’s still a sport where people oick winners, unlike a football game or race or basketball or baseball game. It’s always based on opinions. Who cares.

Anonymous wrote:The Romanian and US teams agreed to have all three share, which IMO is clearly the correct result given the other Romanian gymnast was likely the correct third, but they have no mechanism to give it to her otherwise.

What a stupid mess.

Has the US agreed? I haven't seen that anywhere. That was Romania's suggestion.

The lastest news this morning is that the US is appealing the CAS denial to consider the new video evidence to a Swiss court.

Anonymous wrote:The judges should be banned from ever judging another olympics event.

+1000