Anonymous
08/08/2024 09:57
Subject: RTO Rant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You should find a new job yourself.
Someone else will be happy to have an office.
No they wouldn’t unless they are desperate and no one needs or wants a desperate employee who can’t find work elsewhere and thus is ridiculously grateful for any circumstance
Nothing wrong with being desperate for a job. Way better than lazy entitled employees
Anonymous
08/08/2024 09:56
Subject: RTO Rant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hope you’re blasting the news to management every time someone resigns. It’s their fault.
I have. Deaf ears. I’ve begun looking for a new position myself.
They might be doing RTO looking for people to quit instead of having layoffs down the line.
Invoicing is easy to outsource to a country with cheaper labor.
A family member who works for a great organization had a meeting recently saying they’d have to make cuts in everyone’s budgets. No one is getting laid off, but this person is down two people on their team and was told they can’t rehire and promotions are nixed.
My team is involved in invoicing, and being shortstaffed has led to a backlog in invoices we haven’t submitted. So if that’s the plan, it’s really stupid. But I wouldn’t put it past them.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 09:54
Subject: RTO Rant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That happened at my spouse's job. We think they did it on purpose to get the numbers down.
Yes. As a Senior Leader at a Defense Contractor I can tell you this is exactly what is happening. Most of the "I just can't commute one day" folks are low performers and the problems solve themselves. If you really apply some introspection you will agree.
This. If you are too low energy and lazy to leave your house, it is unlikely you are a great employee. Many of you seriously overvalue yourself
Anonymous
08/08/2024 09:39
Subject: RTO Rant
We had call with senior level management on Monday where our President announced that we're all going back 3 days week toward the end of September. A bunch of managers in other areas of the country raised their hands and said they didn't have enough office space for all their people to sit in. They all downsized over the last few years. Our President was flummoxed and said that was something we'd need to work through.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 09:10
Subject: RTO Rant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hope you’re blasting the news to management every time someone resigns. It’s their fault.
I have. Deaf ears. I’ve begun looking for a new position myself.
They might be doing RTO looking for people to quit instead of having layoffs down the line.
A family member who works for a great organization had a meeting recently saying they’d have to make cuts in everyone’s budgets. No one is getting laid off, but this person is down two people on their team and was told they can’t rehire and promotions are nixed.
My team is involved in invoicing, and being shortstaffed has led to a backlog in invoices we haven’t submitted. So if that’s the plan, it’s really stupid. But I wouldn’t put it past them.
They probably plan to outsource or automate invoicing and look to reduce your headcount.
My very large organization outsourced all invoicing, travel, IT and many other finance jobs. Here's your 1-800 number - we don't care if you quit !
And the vendors don't care if you have invoice issues or travel issues! Here's your chatbot to get it resolved!
Anonymous
08/08/2024 08:02
Subject: RTO Rant
Anonymous wrote:Rto makes me seethe with anger on every level.
Imma go make people be a pantomime horse at work because I decided that makes them more productive and I’m too stupid and too unimaginative to see past the pantomime horse thing so just deal and be a pantomime horse
You need therapy. WTH???
Anonymous
08/08/2024 08:00
Subject: RTO Rant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hope you’re blasting the news to management every time someone resigns. It’s their fault.
I have. Deaf ears. I’ve begun looking for a new position myself.
They might be doing RTO looking for people to quit instead of having layoffs down the line.
A family member who works for a great organization had a meeting recently saying they’d have to make cuts in everyone’s budgets. No one is getting laid off, but this person is down two people on their team and was told they can’t rehire and promotions are nixed.
My team is involved in invoicing, and being shortstaffed has led to a backlog in invoices we haven’t submitted. So if that’s the plan, it’s really stupid. But I wouldn’t put it past them.
They probably plan to outsource or automate invoicing and look to reduce your headcount.
My very large organization outsourced all invoicing, travel, IT and many other finance jobs. Here's your 1-800 number - we don't care if you quit !
Anonymous
08/08/2024 07:59
Subject: RTO Rant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You should find a new job yourself.
Someone else will be happy to have an office.
No they wouldn’t unless they are desperate and no one needs or wants a desperate employee who can’t find work elsewhere and thus is ridiculously grateful for any circumstance
Employers are tired of employees with options, demanding raises and leaving every two years. The work can get done by 2nd tier employees and still keep business running now with automated tools and AI etc.
If you say so but I’m not seeing this. Please provide an example of this IRL
Exactly. There is no AI and automated tools doing most of the real work. Receptionist, help desk - maybe. Real work - Oh Never.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 07:56
Subject: RTO Rant
Anonymous wrote:That happened at my spouse's job. We think they did it on purpose to get the numbers down.
Yes. As a Senior Leader at a Defense Contractor I can tell you this is exactly what is happening. Most of the "I just can't commute one day" folks are low performers and the problems solve themselves. If you really apply some introspection you will agree.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 07:54
Subject: RTO Rant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You should find a new job yourself.
Someone else will be happy to have an office.
No they wouldn’t unless they are desperate and no one needs or wants a desperate employee who can’t find work elsewhere and thus is ridiculously grateful for any circumstance
Employers are tired of employees with options, demanding raises and leaving every two years. The work can get done by 2nd tier employees and still keep business running now with automated tools and AI etc.
They eventually find out why the employees are 2nd tier. Then I get called in. It's great.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 07:51
Subject: RTO Rant
Tons of employers across the country are announcing layoffs. There have been numerous articles written about how it’s no longer a job seeker’s market. I’m hiring manager for our team. We had a tough time replacing someone a year ago and had to settle on a candidate with significantly less experience than we wanted. We just hired someone else and I couldn’t believe the number of highly qualified applicants.
With the market shift, we’re going to see more and more RTO. Your company is behind the trend, as most already have started requiring hybrid.
With the market shift, we’re going to see more and more RTO. Your company is behind the trend, as most already have started requiring hybrid.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 07:33
Subject: RTO Rant
Anonymous wrote:My office recently announced RTO. In the all staff call to address concerns, one senior leader proudly shared that he had implemented this policy for his team following his arrival a year ago and could attest to how well it was working. The CEO nodded along in his little Zoom window. The rest of us were dumbfounded, as 9 of the 10 people working for this senior leader have left the org since his arrival, and several of the positions remain unfilled months later. They are trying to fill them and are spending tons of money hiring outside firms to fill in the gaps.
My own manager seems panicked and has asked me about 20 times already how I’m feeling and to let him know if I have any concerns at all. No concerns from me. I have 2 interviews lined up next week.
That’s what happens from RTO. It is the kick in the butt a lot of people need to look for a new job. It rocks the apple cart and people realize if they are going to be forced to RTO they may as well find a new job with higher pay. It increases turnover significantly. But we all have to pretend we need this expensive real estate….
Anonymous
08/08/2024 05:46
Subject: RTO Rant
My office recently announced RTO. In the all staff call to address concerns, one senior leader proudly shared that he had implemented this policy for his team following his arrival a year ago and could attest to how well it was working. The CEO nodded along in his little Zoom window. The rest of us were dumbfounded, as 9 of the 10 people working for this senior leader have left the org since his arrival, and several of the positions remain unfilled months later. They are trying to fill them and are spending tons of money hiring outside firms to fill in the gaps.
My own manager seems panicked and has asked me about 20 times already how I’m feeling and to let him know if I have any concerns at all. No concerns from me. I have 2 interviews lined up next week.
My own manager seems panicked and has asked me about 20 times already how I’m feeling and to let him know if I have any concerns at all. No concerns from me. I have 2 interviews lined up next week.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 05:04
Subject: RTO Rant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You should find a new job yourself.
Someone else will be happy to have an office.
No they wouldn’t unless they are desperate and no one needs or wants a desperate employee who can’t find work elsewhere and thus is ridiculously grateful for any circumstance
Employers are tired of employees with options, demanding raises and leaving every two years. The work can get done by 2nd tier employees and still keep business running now with automated tools and AI etc.
If you say so but I’m not seeing this. Please provide an example of this IRL
Anonymous
08/08/2024 03:12
Subject: RTO Rant
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You should find a new job yourself.
Someone else will be happy to have an office.
No they wouldn’t unless they are desperate and no one needs or wants a desperate employee who can’t find work elsewhere and thus is ridiculously grateful for any circumstance
Employers are tired of employees with options, demanding raises and leaving every two years. The work can get done by 2nd tier employees and still keep business running now with automated tools and AI etc.