Anonymous
08/08/2024 17:01
Subject: How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
Anonymous wrote:This is so chilling and disturbing. The most important news story right now.
What can we do to prevent Trump stealing the election now that we know he is preparing to try this?
Become a poll watcher, register voters, drive people to the polls, make calls, knock doors, and share this sentiment. The courts won’t save us. We need to vote in numbers too big to steal.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 16:54
Subject: Re:How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
Anonymous wrote:Well, since the GOP plans to win, there will be no issue.
And, Salon, OP? Can you get any more left wing?
The GOP isn’t winning. Trump and Vance are getting slaughtered now in the polls and even the generic congressional ballot is leaning Democrat.
Trump is in a panic over her crowd sizes and poll numbers. And no one is going to Vance’s creepy rallies as he stalks her.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 14:40
Subject: Re:How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems a big question then is whether Congress is required to wait for all 50 states before certifying the election?
Or is it like a train and if a state doesn’t certify and get its results in on time, it gets left behind.
But that would not be a good outcome at all. Talk about disenfranchisement.
The states MUST send their slate of Electors to the President of the Senate by January 6. It's not optional, its in the Constitution. So they will need to certify something - the Supreme Court would force it upon the state. Even the current court.
Further, the President of the Senate can only open the envelopes they have received from the states. To the extent that state envelopes are missing, then there would be nothing for the President of the Senate to open from those missing states.
Here's an interesting article on a potential strategy by No Labels to try to force a contingent election using faithless electors:
https://www.thirdway.org/memo/the-no-labels-contingent-election-plan-explained-to-the-extent-that-is-possible
Another fascinating read about the implications of a contingent election - the likely horsetrading, the importance of having a majority in the House, incentives, etc.
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/danger-in-plain-sight-the-risk-of-triggering-a-contingent-election-in-2024
Thank you!
Anonymous
08/08/2024 14:31
Subject: Re:How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
Well, since the GOP plans to win, there will be no issue.
And, Salon, OP? Can you get any more left wing?
And, Salon, OP? Can you get any more left wing?
Anonymous
08/08/2024 14:27
Subject: How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I certainly hope...
This is why MAGA are the most anti American people ever even with all their American flags. You don’t give a crap about this country and democracy is you are ok with a candidate doing whatever it takes to get elected.
That was my post. I was trying to correct the post right above that should have said "I certainly hope President Seal Team six is on top of it"
Anonymous
08/08/2024 14:25
Subject: How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I certainly hope...
This is why MAGA are the most anti American people ever even with all their American flags. You don’t give a crap about this country and democracy is you are ok with a candidate doing whatever it takes to get elected.
If
Anonymous
08/08/2024 14:24
Subject: How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
Anonymous wrote:I certainly hope...
This is why MAGA are the most anti American people ever even with all their American flags. You don’t give a crap about this country and democracy is you are ok with a candidate doing whatever it takes to get elected.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 14:13
Subject: Re:How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
Anonymous wrote:Seems a big question then is whether Congress is required to wait for all 50 states before certifying the election?
Or is it like a train and if a state doesn’t certify and get its results in on time, it gets left behind.
But that would not be a good outcome at all. Talk about disenfranchisement.
The states MUST send their slate of Electors to the President of the Senate by January 6. It's not optional, its in the Constitution. So they will need to certify something - the Supreme Court would force it upon the state. Even the current court.
Further, the President of the Senate can only open the envelopes they have received from the states. To the extent that state envelopes are missing, then there would be nothing for the President of the Senate to open from those missing states.
Here's an interesting article on a potential strategy by No Labels to try to force a contingent election using faithless electors:
https://www.thirdway.org/memo/the-no-labels-contingent-election-plan-explained-to-the-extent-that-is-possible
Another fascinating read about the implications of a contingent election - the likely horsetrading, the importance of having a majority in the House, incentives, etc.
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/danger-in-plain-sight-the-risk-of-triggering-a-contingent-election-in-2024
Anonymous
08/08/2024 13:47
Subject: Re:How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
Seems a big question then is whether Congress is required to wait for all 50 states before certifying the election?
Or is it like a train and if a state doesn’t certify and get its results in on time, it gets left behind.
But that would not be a good outcome at all. Talk about disenfranchisement.
Or is it like a train and if a state doesn’t certify and get its results in on time, it gets left behind.
But that would not be a good outcome at all. Talk about disenfranchisement.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 13:38
Subject: Re:How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
The Fight To Certify Elections Has Already Begun
https://www.democracydocket.com/opinion/the-fight-to-certify-elections-has-already-begun/
Good overview of what to expect in November-December. Some small rural red counties will refuse to certify under the concept that the state overall will not be able to certify the election. They are basically trying to throw out enough states' Electoral College votes in the hope that Harris/Walz cannot get to 270.
https://www.democracydocket.com/opinion/the-fight-to-certify-elections-has-already-begun/
Good overview of what to expect in November-December. Some small rural red counties will refuse to certify under the concept that the state overall will not be able to certify the election. They are basically trying to throw out enough states' Electoral College votes in the hope that Harris/Walz cannot get to 270.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 13:32
Subject: Re:How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
“The Georgia State Election Board passed a new rule with a 3-2 vote on Tuesday that could delay election certification and give board members more discretion to investigate elections.
The rule states that the board can only certify an election “after reasonable inquiry that the tabulation and canvassing of the election are complete and accurate and that the results are a true and accurate accounting of all votes cast in that election.”
“Reasonable” is doing a lot of work there.
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/georgia-elections-board-passes-rule-that-could-delay-election-certification/
The rule states that the board can only certify an election “after reasonable inquiry that the tabulation and canvassing of the election are complete and accurate and that the results are a true and accurate accounting of all votes cast in that election.”
“Reasonable” is doing a lot of work there.
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/georgia-elections-board-passes-rule-that-could-delay-election-certification/
Anonymous
Anonymous
08/08/2024 13:18
Subject: Re:How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
What exactly can we do about it, other than vote? What is our government doing to prevent it?
Anonymous
08/08/2024 13:07
Subject: How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
Trump is 100% trying to steal the election.
Don't sleep on this issue. It's paramount.
Don't sleep on this issue. It's paramount.
Anonymous
08/08/2024 13:00
Subject: How the GOP plans to steal the election in the courtroom even after Trump loses
The election may hinge on Nevada. This is scary. Trump's efforts to steal the election need to be stopped. Forewarned is forearmed.
We need to build more awareness about this danger please.
We need to build more awareness about this danger please.