Anonymous
08/06/2024 08:15
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You would have to take AIM in 5th, which would need to be offered virtually or by busing to the middle school. Then you’d have the same issue in 8th with Algebra 2.
That's what I was told when DC who scored in the 290s on their MAP-M but turns out it's not true. You just need to push harder.
Is this 2-5 MAP or 6+ MAP? How are these different?
290s on MAP 2-5 when they took MAP6+ at 11 their score went down to 285. They were not allowed to take Algebra because they hadn't taken AIM in 5th.
Anonymous
08/06/2024 01:14
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You would have to take AIM in 5th, which would need to be offered virtually or by busing to the middle school. Then you’d have the same issue in 8th with Algebra 2.
Not true, my non-W kid did compacted math to Algebra in 6th. Skipped AIM.
Well, that is the policy at our school.
It would be helpful if people named what schools they have experience with as this "policy" clearly varies from school to school. Being vague just invites more misinformation that this only happens at "wealthy" potomac schools.
Another thread specifically mentioned Frost as having a path for going from compact 5/6 straight to Algebra skipping AIM.
In this thread a poster mentioned Tilden as specifically not allowing 6th graders to take algebra.
Anonymous
08/05/2024 21:41
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You would have to take AIM in 5th, which would need to be offered virtually or by busing to the middle school. Then you’d have the same issue in 8th with Algebra 2.
Not true, my non-W kid did compacted math to Algebra in 6th. Skipped AIM.
Well, that is the policy at our school.
Anonymous
08/05/2024 21:04
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:You would have to take AIM in 5th, which would need to be offered virtually or by busing to the middle school. Then you’d have the same issue in 8th with Algebra 2.
Not true, my non-W kid did compacted math to Algebra in 6th. Skipped AIM.
Anonymous
08/05/2024 21:02
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Compacted math and MAP scores but its very middle school specific. Some allow it, others don't.
Anonymous
08/05/2024 21:01
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you.
The child is zoned for Tilden. What is a CES school?
At least with my experience, counselors at Tilden are unwilling to bump kids up to algebra in 6th. DD knows someone who scored 309 on Map M was still denied advanced placement. My DD ended up taking algebra 2 this summer to get on the fastest track.
Can you expand on little on summer classes? Is this a real possibility?
If your kid hasn't finished alg1 in 5th, she's hopelessly behind. Sorry.
Anonymous
08/05/2024 17:26
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you.
The child is zoned for Tilden. What is a CES school?
At least with my experience, counselors at Tilden are unwilling to bump kids up to algebra in 6th. DD knows someone who scored 309 on Map M was still denied advanced placement. My DD ended up taking algebra 2 this summer to get on the fastest track.
Can you expand on little on summer classes? Is this a real possibility?
Anonymous
08/05/2024 17:19
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:Thank you.
The child is zoned for Tilden. What is a CES school?
At least with my experience, counselors at Tilden are unwilling to bump kids up to algebra in 6th. DD knows someone who scored 309 on Map M was still denied advanced placement. My DD ended up taking algebra 2 this summer to get on the fastest track.
Anonymous
08/05/2024 15:22
Subject: Re:What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
MCPS default fast track is algebra in 7th. If you think DC needs algebra in 6th, PPs are right that 5th is going to be the hard year. Most elementaries are not set up to deal with this. You definitely want to interrogate within your family whether it is worth it to try to patch and scrape and argue and redesign when the standard MCPS trajectories would give a student on the fastest track Calc BC as a HS junior anyway.
Anonymous
08/05/2024 14:37
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:CES schools are elementary magnet schools. Traditionally "gifted" kids from around the cluster but MCPS has watered it down to target kids who are statistical outliers for their home school.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/elementary/center-enriched-studies/
For WJ the CES school Chevy Chase.
The curriculum has generally emphasized more intensive reading/writing. Math is largely the same unless there may be a cohort of exceptionally accelerated kids.
At the end of 3rd grade kids are evaluated based on their test scores to see if they make it into the CES lottery. These same scores are used to determine if they should be tracked into the compacted math track which covers grades 4,5,6 math in just two years. This compacted math track puts a kid into AIM in 6th and algebra in 7th.
The curriculum as to whats covered in each grade is on the MCPS website. Since you are coming from outside, please be aware that MCPS curriculum doesn't always align with everyone else.
Not watered down. The 5th grade teacher (not MCPS) is the same person running the same curriculum for the past 30 years.
Anonymous
08/05/2024 14:35
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:Why do you want this for your child?
An accelerated path in MCPS is Algebra in 7th, Calculus in 11th.
Why do you feel this path would not work for your child?
TBH, you need to worry more about this year. Have you spoken to the elementary school about your child placing into Compacted 5/6? That comes first.
Why do you feel the more advanced path would NOT work for THEIR child?
Anonymous
08/05/2024 14:33
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You would have to take AIM in 5th, which would need to be offered virtually or by busing to the middle school. Then you’d have the same issue in 8th with Algebra 2.
That's what I was told when DC who scored in the 290s on their MAP-M but turns out it's not true. You just need to push harder.
Depends on the school. Some are more amenable to summer geometry or 8th grade double math (geom + alt 2 at high school ) to get ahead.
Anonymous
08/05/2024 14:32
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You would have to take AIM in 5th, which would need to be offered virtually or by busing to the middle school. Then you’d have the same issue in 8th with Algebra 2.
That's what I was told when DC who scored in the 290s on their MAP-M but turns out it's not true. You just need to push harder.
Is this 2-5 MAP or 6+ MAP? How are these different?
2-5 has a much lower content ceiling (low algebra), so 270+ scores come from not making any mistakes, and possibly some dependence on previous year score, not from answering more advanced material.
Anonymous
08/05/2024 13:31
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You would have to take AIM in 5th, which would need to be offered virtually or by busing to the middle school. Then you’d have the same issue in 8th with Algebra 2.
That's what I was told when DC who scored in the 290s on their MAP-M but turns out it's not true. You just need to push harder.
Is this 2-5 MAP or 6+ MAP? How are these different?
Anonymous
08/05/2024 13:15
Subject: What math in fifth grade leads to Algebra 1 in sixth grade?
Anonymous wrote:You would have to take AIM in 5th, which would need to be offered virtually or by busing to the middle school. Then you’d have the same issue in 8th with Algebra 2.
That's what I was told when DC who scored in the 290s on their MAP-M but turns out it's not true. You just need to push harder.