Anonymous wrote:It’s low class.

Pp your comment is classist. I know 'upper class' people who use it and 'lower' class people who don't.

-Dont swear at me/anyone else
-Dont swear around younger siblings

Basically anything else *shrug*

Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen bad words via text on my kids phone.
I’ve never heard her say them although I’m
Sure she does.

Same.

I explained that when other people's parents saw it in the text threads they may think less of her. She said no one else's parents monitor their phones like I do. I said, maybe they do but don't tell their kids. She said

To answer OP, people who work around MS students say they definitely hear it among friends in MS. Set your house rules.

Anonymous wrote:14 year old DD uses it with her friends, but not in the presence of adults. Swearing *at* people is not allowed. That's the rule.

She’s 🗑️

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I will say that when I've heard it in a song they've (forgotten it's a lyric) played for me, I'll tell them it's a sign to others of low education and a poor vocabulary.

Ok, it’s not a sign of low education or a poor vocabulary. You’ve got nothing to back that up. It’s a word that’s commonly used by all types of people.

We teach our children that not all vocabulary is appropriate with all audiences, and the f word is not appropriate at home (among many other places like at work, with older generations, at teachers, etc).

Also it isn’t so much that it is low class and unintelligent, but anytime someone overuses a filler word it diminishes their message. If someone said “like” twice in every sentence it makes you cringe a bit. The f word is like that too, it can become a linguistic crutch and is highly inappropriate in some settings so better not to develop a bad habit.

Also, rarely will people notice if you don’t use profanity, but people may notice in a negative way if you do, so why bother when the English language is rich with other descriptive words.

*vaping, not calling

Who the fk cares?

But seriously these preaching parents have kids calling behind their backs, on secret social media accounts, on TikTok and YouTube most of the day wearing clothes were the butt cheeks hanging out and they want an award because they think their kid doesn’t swear.

Our rule after mid-elementary was basically: talk however you want around your friends, but little kids and adults better not hear bad language out of your mouth.

Anonymous wrote:

I will say that when I've heard it in a song they've (forgotten it's a lyric) played for me, I'll tell them it's a sign to others of low education and a poor vocabulary.

Ok, it’s not a sign of low education or a poor vocabulary. You’ve got nothing to back that up. It’s a word that’s commonly used by all types of people.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume my kids use it with friends in person and in text, but since they don't use it with me, I have no idea when it started.

I will say that when I've heard it in a song they've (forgotten it's a lyric) played for me, I'll tell them it's a sign to others of low education and a poor vocabulary.

It no longer correlates to education or vocabulary levels.

Disagree

f you - not okay
what the f - fine

it depends how it is used and if it is directed at someone. Correctly used it's a superb word.

This explains it well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_42tJgX_S48

Anonymous wrote:I assume my kids use it with friends in person and in text, but since they don't use it with me, I have no idea when it started.

I will say that when I've heard it in a song they've (forgotten it's a lyric) played for me, I'll tell them it's a sign to others of low education and a poor vocabulary.

It no longer correlates to education or vocabulary levels.

Anonymous wrote:14 year old DD uses it with her friends, but not in the presence of adults. Swearing *at* people is not allowed. That's the rule.

This is us. I use it somewhat regularly but only in front of the teen kids a couple times a year. The big thing for us is no swearing at people. WTF about something unexpected is in a different world than FU or You Fing…

And although we all seem to use it on our own, it would feel weird if that was just regularly used as a family. Seems a little trashy.

Anonymous wrote:Question for those that know your kid has or does use f* word with friends, at what age did they start? Do they also use with you? I feel out of date or naive from being raised in a “no bad words” house. Is f* even considered “bad word” anymore? Do some parents still tell kids they “won’t tolerate that language in this house”?

Your POV is the correct one. Of course, the "F" word is still profane and shouldn't be used in polite company.