Anonymous
07/30/2024 02:44
Subject: Re:T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone has cracked the code to what Stanford wants. All the kids there are insanely talented though.
Some of those talented high schoolers who got into Stanford are not so talented as adults. I know a few.
Anonymous
07/30/2024 01:19
Subject: T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Sound mostly BS.
Anonymous
07/29/2024 23:25
Subject: T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
From our private, kids with the “big” national level awards/accolades go to Stanford and Duke.
School CCO basically says don’t waste the early app without that type of tier 1 EC.
School CCO basically says don’t waste the early app without that type of tier 1 EC.
Anonymous
07/29/2024 18:55
Subject: Re:T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What T25s dont? You still need good essays for all of them
Some colleges give equal weighting to national accolades at the individual level for sports as compared to grade/rigger.
You have to look at the scoring rubrics for each school to figure out who values it the highest.
I'm sure, but you're still gonna need to pull in hard on the essay to get in. So much of the applicant pool has big awards now. Of the three kids from DC's school who go to Stanford, none of them have big awards. All of them were known as spectacular writers.
Anonymous
07/29/2024 18:53
Subject: Re:T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Anonymous wrote:What T25s dont? You still need good essays for all of them
Some colleges give equal weighting to national accolades at the individual level for sports as compared to grade/rigger.
You have to look at the scoring rubrics for each school to figure out who values it the highest.
Anonymous
07/29/2024 18:41
Subject: Re:T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
What T25s dont? You still need good essays for all of them
Anonymous
07/29/2024 18:36
Subject: T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of that will make up for a weak transcript (or scores for schools that now require test scores).
At least start there to see if you at least make it pay the first “cut”.
Unless you are Olympic caliber, I don’t know why any school cares about a non college sport. Doesn’t sound like that is the case for your kid or I assume you say that.
Yes, to rigor/grades.
Rigorous private high school.
Test scores are still work in process - 1500
My understanding is that schools like the discipline, grit, & ambition associated with national awards in sports, even if not recruited? Most schools don’t have this sport (though it may be a club sport at some T25 schools).
What is the sport? I think your reading too much into the value of that sport…but the other ECs seem impressive.
If the sport comes with a national level ranking or national award, it is very important. If there are no national awards, it’s irrelevant.
What’s an example that colleges don’t offer Varsity but have a club level? Rugby? Even Ultimate Frisbee is a D1 sport these days.
So many at Stanford:
https://stanfordclubsports.com/
Archery!
Badminton!
Figure Skating!
Horse Polo!
What exactly is Dragon Boat?
These are good ones.
Dragon boat is for the China applicants.
Anonymous
07/29/2024 13:49
Subject: T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of that will make up for a weak transcript (or scores for schools that now require test scores).
At least start there to see if you at least make it pay the first “cut”.
Unless you are Olympic caliber, I don’t know why any school cares about a non college sport. Doesn’t sound like that is the case for your kid or I assume you say that.
Yes, to rigor/grades.
Rigorous private high school.
Test scores are still work in process - 1500
My understanding is that schools like the discipline, grit, & ambition associated with national awards in sports, even if not recruited? Most schools don’t have this sport (though it may be a club sport at some T25 schools).
My understanding is that Duke loves athletes, even if they are not playing at Duke. I know of 2 high level HS athletes going to Duke but not playing in college.
Anonymous
07/29/2024 12:39
Subject: T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of that will make up for a weak transcript (or scores for schools that now require test scores).
At least start there to see if you at least make it pay the first “cut”.
Unless you are Olympic caliber, I don’t know why any school cares about a non college sport. Doesn’t sound like that is the case for your kid or I assume you say that.
Yes, to rigor/grades.
Rigorous private high school.
Test scores are still work in process - 1500
My understanding is that schools like the discipline, grit, & ambition associated with national awards in sports, even if not recruited? Most schools don’t have this sport (though it may be a club sport at some T25 schools).
What is the sport? I think your reading too much into the value of that sport…but the other ECs seem impressive.
If the sport comes with a national level ranking or national award, it is very important. If there are no national awards, it’s irrelevant.
What’s an example that colleges don’t offer Varsity but have a club level? Rugby? Even Ultimate Frisbee is a D1 sport these days.
So many at Stanford:
https://stanfordclubsports.com/
Archery!
Badminton!
Figure Skating!
Horse Polo!
What exactly is Dragon Boat?
Anonymous
07/29/2024 09:49
Subject: T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The numbers have to be there first - GPA, rigor, test scores, comparative class rank. But if they cross that threshold, the schools that seem to really value ECs from what I've seen:
Stanford
Vanderbilt
Princeton
Rice
Northwestern
Brown
Duke
I have kids at two of the above. And it was definitely the ECs that helped the most.
Interesting list.
Is it weird that Brown is the only Ivy here?
Princeton is on the list too.
Anonymous
07/29/2024 09:33
Subject: T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Anonymous wrote:The numbers have to be there first - GPA, rigor, test scores, comparative class rank. But if they cross that threshold, the schools that seem to really value ECs from what I've seen:
Stanford
Vanderbilt
Princeton
Rice
Northwestern
Brown
Duke
I have kids at two of the above. And it was definitely the ECs that helped the most.
Interesting list.
Is it weird that Brown is the only Ivy here?
Anonymous
07/29/2024 09:32
Subject: T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of that will make up for a weak transcript (or scores for schools that now require test scores).
At least start there to see if you at least make it pay the first “cut”.
Unless you are Olympic caliber, I don’t know why any school cares about a non college sport. Doesn’t sound like that is the case for your kid or I assume you say that.
Yes, to rigor/grades.
Rigorous private high school.
Test scores are still work in process - 1500
My understanding is that schools like the discipline, grit, & ambition associated with national awards in sports, even if not recruited? Most schools don’t have this sport (though it may be a club sport at some T25 schools).
What is the sport? I think your reading too much into the value of that sport…but the other ECs seem impressive.
If the sport comes with a national level ranking or national award, it is very important. If there are no national awards, it’s irrelevant.
What’s an example that colleges don’t offer Varsity but have a club level? Rugby? Even Ultimate Frisbee is a D1 sport these days.
So many at Stanford:
https://stanfordclubsports.com/
Anonymous
07/28/2024 22:53
Subject: T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of that will make up for a weak transcript (or scores for schools that now require test scores).
At least start there to see if you at least make it pay the first “cut”.
Unless you are Olympic caliber, I don’t know why any school cares about a non college sport. Doesn’t sound like that is the case for your kid or I assume you say that.
Yes, to rigor/grades.
Rigorous private high school.
Test scores are still work in process - 1500
My understanding is that schools like the discipline, grit, & ambition associated with national awards in sports, even if not recruited? Most schools don’t have this sport (though it may be a club sport at some T25 schools).
What is the sport? I think your reading too much into the value of that sport…but the other ECs seem impressive.
If the sport comes with a national level ranking or national award, it is very important. If there are no national awards, it’s irrelevant.
What’s an example that colleges don’t offer Varsity but have a club level? Rugby? Even Ultimate Frisbee is a D1 sport these days.
Anonymous
07/28/2024 22:52
Subject: T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which T25 selective colleges are most highly focused on EC achievement - impact, depth, national recognition?
Kid has tremendous (non-Stem) achievement in one humanities area + congressional internship + co-founder of school club + leadership in student govt + national level awards in a non-recruitable sport. And one more impact-driven local humanitarian activity w/news coverage (dont want to reveal too much).
Along with unique volunteer work for underprivileged population, aligned w/sport.
And another internship.
Which schools score highly for ECs in the review process?
Stanford, I think?
Anyone else?
All T25 care about ECs, but for unhooked students they will not get far without top rigor and top grades/rank(top 10% from public, top 20-25% from private or a magnet like TJ). ECs will not make up for deficiencies elsewhere, but ECs can help you stand out from the tens of thousands of other 3.9uw/1500+ students who are all applying to an overlapping subset of T25.
Some colleges care or value EC “achievement” more than others.
Especially for private school kids.
Btdt.
Anonymous
07/28/2024 22:50
Subject: T25 colleges focused heavily on EC rating?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which T25 selective colleges are most highly focused on EC achievement - impact, depth, national recognition?
Kid has tremendous (non-Stem) achievement in one humanities area + congressional internship + co-founder of school club + leadership in student govt + national level awards in a non-recruitable sport. And one more impact-driven local humanitarian activity w/news coverage (dont want to reveal too much).
Along with unique volunteer work for underprivileged population, aligned w/sport.
And another internship.
Which schools score highly for ECs in the review process?
Stanford, I think?
Anyone else?
All T25 care about ECs, but for unhooked students they will not get far without top rigor and top grades/rank(top 10% from public, top 20-25% from private or a magnet like TJ). ECs will not make up for deficiencies elsewhere, but ECs can help you stand out from the tens of thousands of other 3.9uw/1500+ students who are all applying to an overlapping subset of T25.
Read the responses.