Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 11:20     Subject: Lamine Yamal

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Anonymous wrote:If you were actually serious you would compare, middle infielders and most outfielders in baseball, guards in basketball maybe some forwards anything taller than 6'9" is just awkward in soccer, anything but lineman in football so on find those athletes and start comparing if the US would close the gap faster if all these folks chose soccer, probably but ultimately the culture is not soccer so actually playing the game would take generations of soccer only families to achieve.


If you're really serious, you'd know being a good baseball player doesn't mean you'd be a good soccer player.


au contraire baseball may be best comp becasue there are plenty of non-athletes excelling at baseball. Messi would be a non-athelete in any other sport he is a footballer throught and through and picked the best sport for his body type, which is not a superior athlete. My point is the best athletes in other sports comparision, the best athletes on a baseball field are the middle infieders and most outfielders (the non-power guys who can actually run). American football or basketball I agree are best comps because of the starting and stopping that occurs in those games, cutting, and in game transitions
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 11:06     Subject: Lamine Yamal

Anonymous wrote:Some of us on these boards have sons who are this kid’s age. It is so fun watching him play. Wish the US produced these types of players who seem to be “playing” and surprising you much like they did when they were younger children. Where in our system do we drill out the sense of play and wonder?


Oh stop it.
There's isn't another county in the world that's produced a player like Yamal.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 09:36     Subject: Lamine Yamal

Anonymous wrote:If you were actually serious you would compare, middle infielders and most outfielders in baseball, guards in basketball maybe some forwards anything taller than 6'9" is just awkward in soccer, anything but lineman in football so on find those athletes and start comparing if the US would close the gap faster if all these folks chose soccer, probably but ultimately the culture is not soccer so actually playing the game would take generations of soccer only families to achieve.


If you're really serious, you'd know being a good baseball player doesn't mean you'd be a good soccer player.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 09:29     Subject: Lamine Yamal

If you were actually serious you would compare, middle infielders and most outfielders in baseball, guards in basketball maybe some forwards anything taller than 6'9" is just awkward in soccer, anything but lineman in football so on find those athletes and start comparing if the US would close the gap faster if all these folks chose soccer, probably but ultimately the culture is not soccer so actually playing the game would take generations of soccer only families to achieve.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 09:28     Subject: Lamine Yamal

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us on these boards have sons who are this kid’s age. It is so fun watching him play. Wish the US produced these types of players who seem to be “playing” and surprising you much like they did when they were younger children. Where in our system do we drill out the sense of play and wonder?


At u9-u17. Yamal would not be play in the US. The coaches here would see him as too passive. He does not run around chasing the ball nd passes too much.


US soccer, is all about a system, they don't let players think of their own. Until that changes, no player will get to that level.


That’s because of the relative immaturity of US coaching.

If our pro leagues were better, we could pull better coaches and that would bring better coaching overall in the US down stream.


Yes, I 100% agree. There is a lot of talent but too many coaches think this is American football.

All the best coaching and player talents in this country go into American football. I can’t figure out why.


How can the best Soccer coaches and Soccer talents go to American Football?

That would make American football pretty weak, wouldn't it

Like saying the best volleyball coaches and
talents went to basketball


Imagine the Kelce brothers playing the 8 and the 10! Or Maybe Travis on the wing! Uruguay wants to play physical with them? Ha!


We do a lot of imagining in this country when it comes to soccer. Great collective imaginations that and $20 buys you lunch these days.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 09:19     Subject: Lamine Yamal

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us on these boards have sons who are this kid’s age. It is so fun watching him play. Wish the US produced these types of players who seem to be “playing” and surprising you much like they did when they were younger children. Where in our system do we drill out the sense of play and wonder?


At u9-u17. Yamal would not be play in the US. The coaches here would see him as too passive. He does not run around chasing the ball nd passes too much.


US soccer, is all about a system, they don't let players think of their own. Until that changes, no player will get to that level.


That’s because of the relative immaturity of US coaching.

If our pro leagues were better, we could pull better coaches and that would bring better coaching overall in the US down stream.


Yes, I 100% agree. There is a lot of talent but too many coaches think this is American football.

All the best coaching and player talents in this country go into American football. I can’t figure out why.


How can the best Soccer coaches and Soccer talents go to American Football?

That would make American football pretty weak, wouldn't it

Like saying the best volleyball coaches and
talents went to basketball


Imagine the Kelce brothers playing the 8 and the 10! Or Maybe Travis on the wing! Uruguay wants to play physical with them? Ha!


We should imagine people who can't play soccer on the field against the highest levels soccer players?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 03:03     Subject: Re:Lamine Yamal

Figo 2.0

Barça broke & Madrid flowin’ with tha cash 😉
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 02:02     Subject: Lamine Yamal

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us on these boards have sons who are this kid’s age. It is so fun watching him play. Wish the US produced these types of players who seem to be “playing” and surprising you much like they did when they were younger children. Where in our system do we drill out the sense of play and wonder?


At u9-u17. Yamal would not be play in the US. The coaches here would see him as too passive. He does not run around chasing the ball nd passes too much.


US soccer, is all about a system, they don't let players think of their own. Until that changes, no player will get to that level.


That’s because of the relative immaturity of US coaching.

If our pro leagues were better, we could pull better coaches and that would bring better coaching overall in the US down stream.


Yes, I 100% agree. There is a lot of talent but too many coaches think this is American football.

All the best coaching and player talents in this country go into American football. I can’t figure out why.


How can the best Soccer coaches and Soccer talents go to American Football?

That would make American football pretty weak, wouldn't it

Like saying the best volleyball coaches and
talents went to basketball


Imagine the Kelce brothers playing the 8 and the 10! Or Maybe Travis on the wing! Uruguay wants to play physical with them? Ha!
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2024 00:38     Subject: Lamine Yamal

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us on these boards have sons who are this kid’s age. It is so fun watching him play. Wish the US produced these types of players who seem to be “playing” and surprising you much like they did when they were younger children. Where in our system do we drill out the sense of play and wonder?


At u9-u17. Yamal would not be play in the US. The coaches here would see him as too passive. He does not run around chasing the ball nd passes too much.


US soccer, is all about a system, they don't let players think of their own. Until that changes, no player will get to that level.


That’s because of the relative immaturity of US coaching.

If our pro leagues were better, we could pull better coaches and that would bring better coaching overall in the US down stream.


Yes, I 100% agree. There is a lot of talent but too many coaches think this is American football.

All the best coaching and player talents in this country go into American football. I can’t figure out why.


Use to think that too but spent some time in Spain and their coaches are just light years ahead of the US coaches. The practices are at such a high tempo, everything is done under pressure and the player/s doing the pressuring are expected to go 100%. This forces the offensive player/s to practice at close to game speed and improves the defensive player/s. There is never space and the players must be technical and think a few passes ahead. You just do not see the players in the US at 14-17 giving that level of defensive effort in practice.

A few other things. The coaches change formation mid game, put players in different positions and expect the players to adjust. They also move players up and down teams. Moving up challenges the player’s speed of play and moving down they expect leadership and mentoring the younger players. Lastly before 12-13 not much emphasis on anything including winnings. They do not care about records but only if the players are developing.


Literally all of those things happen at good American clubs.


lol no they do not. This is why Americans have to go overseas to develop. The speed of play and defense in the US from u14–u17 is too slow to develop players. Talk to any US player who goes to Europe and I am not talking about the top leagues. Even the lower divisions in Europe US players say they are unprepared for the speed of play and tactics adjustments.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2024 16:25     Subject: Lamine Yamal

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us on these boards have sons who are this kid’s age. It is so fun watching him play. Wish the US produced these types of players who seem to be “playing” and surprising you much like they did when they were younger children. Where in our system do we drill out the sense of play and wonder?


At u9-u17. Yamal would not be play in the US. The coaches here would see him as too passive. He does not run around chasing the ball nd passes too much.


US soccer, is all about a system, they don't let players think of their own. Until that changes, no player will get to that level.


That’s because of the relative immaturity of US coaching.

If our pro leagues were better, we could pull better coaches and that would bring better coaching overall in the US down stream.


Yes, I 100% agree. There is a lot of talent but too many coaches think this is American football.

All the best coaching and player talents in this country go into American football. I can’t figure out why.


Use to think that too but spent some time in Spain and their coaches are just light years ahead of the US coaches. The practices are at such a high tempo, everything is done under pressure and the player/s doing the pressuring are expected to go 100%. This forces the offensive player/s to practice at close to game speed and improves the defensive player/s. There is never space and the players must be technical and think a few passes ahead. You just do not see the players in the US at 14-17 giving that level of defensive effort in practice.

A few other things. The coaches change formation mid game, put players in different positions and expect the players to adjust. They also move players up and down teams. Moving up challenges the player’s speed of play and moving down they expect leadership and mentoring the younger players. Lastly before 12-13 not much emphasis on anything including winnings. They do not care about records but only if the players are developing.


Literally all of those things happen at good American clubs.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2024 16:16     Subject: Lamine Yamal

Anonymous wrote:I think we have too many other professional sports that have historically drawn the attention of us as fans, which in turn, translates into less enthusiasm overall, for sports like soccer. Obviously soccer has grown and is continuing to grow in popularity at all levels, but the fact that we didn't have MLS until, what, the 90s, has to have played a huge role in how far behind the US is. And, as a result, I think many of our top athletes on the men's side, gravitate to football and basketball at younger ages because soccer is still lagging behind. It's not to say US can't ever catch up - I mean look at how dominant we are in so many sports, but we are just sooo far behind.


There are way too many in power and decision making positions determined to do soccer the American way.

Iceland showed what can happen if the right stakeholders choose to elevate soccer quality
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2024 16:02     Subject: Lamine Yamal

Anonymous wrote:The picture of Messi bathing him as a baby is incredible


Isn't it amazing how things work out like that? What a feel-good story!
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2024 16:00     Subject: Lamine Yamal

I think we have too many other professional sports that have historically drawn the attention of us as fans, which in turn, translates into less enthusiasm overall, for sports like soccer. Obviously soccer has grown and is continuing to grow in popularity at all levels, but the fact that we didn't have MLS until, what, the 90s, has to have played a huge role in how far behind the US is. And, as a result, I think many of our top athletes on the men's side, gravitate to football and basketball at younger ages because soccer is still lagging behind. It's not to say US can't ever catch up - I mean look at how dominant we are in so many sports, but we are just sooo far behind.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2024 15:59     Subject: Lamine Yamal

The picture of Messi bathing him as a baby is incredible
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2024 15:30     Subject: Lamine Yamal

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us on these boards have sons who are this kid’s age. It is so fun watching him play. Wish the US produced these types of players who seem to be “playing” and surprising you much like they did when they were younger children. Where in our system do we drill out the sense of play and wonder?


At u9-u17. Yamal would not be play in the US. The coaches here would see him as too passive. He does not run around chasing the ball nd passes too much.


US soccer, is all about a system, they don't let players think of their own. Until that changes, no player will get to that level.


That’s because of the relative immaturity of US coaching.

If our pro leagues were better, we could pull better coaches and that would bring better coaching overall in the US down stream.


Yes, I 100% agree. There is a lot of talent but too many coaches think this is American football.

All the best coaching and player talents in this country go into American football. I can’t figure out why.


How can the best Soccer coaches and Soccer talents go to American Football?

That would make American football pretty weak, wouldn't it

Like saying the best volleyball coaches and
talents went to basketball