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Anonymous wrote:If they don’t we just go without those positions. If it’s a Gen Ed position, the other Gen Ed teachers in that grade or content level simply have bigger classes to absorb the students that teacher would’ve theoretically taught. If it’s an EL position, the kids who need El support in their class may not have an EL teacher to do that. If it’s a sped position, the same. It creates issues with class size, staff workload, and student support, but you can’t make people take these jobs and fewer and fewer people want them.

Also, as a general rule, the later in the year that someone is hired, the greater the likelihood they are not a great candidate. The good people are snatched up early when hiring begins. If someone is getting hired in July/August, it’s usually a “there aren’t any other options” situation where the school needs a body and hopes for the best. There’s some exceptions to this, like someone happens to just move to this area in late summer and they’re really good, but generally speaking, the last minute fill-ins for these jobs leave something to be desired.

How would they do that if classes are already maxed out? For example, let's say "County Middle School" should have three Civics teachers, but they have an unfilled vacancy. Teacher #1 already has 150 students, Teacher #2 already has 150 students, and the vacancy should have 150 students. If they tried to split those 150 students between the other two teachers, they'd have 225 students each. Even if they both get put on extended contracts (teaching six classes rather than five), that would still make each class have 35-38 students. That's outrageous.

It's more likely the third batch of 150 kids will spend the year with a series of short-term and long-term substitute teachers. It's luck of the draw, best hope your kids isn't in the 33% who get a sub, unfortunately.
A plus side of Title 1 schools is that they have first pick to hire from the interview events so most likely they will have real teachers in their classrooms instead of the subs.

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Anonymous wrote:If they don’t we just go without those positions. If it’s a Gen Ed position, the other Gen Ed teachers in that grade or content level simply have bigger classes to absorb the students that teacher would’ve theoretically taught. If it’s an EL position, the kids who need El support in their class may not have an EL teacher to do that. If it’s a sped position, the same. It creates issues with class size, staff workload, and student support, but you can’t make people take these jobs and fewer and fewer people want them.

Also, as a general rule, the later in the year that someone is hired, the greater the likelihood they are not a great candidate. The good people are snatched up early when hiring begins. If someone is getting hired in July/August, it’s usually a “there aren’t any other options” situation where the school needs a body and hopes for the best. There’s some exceptions to this, like someone happens to just move to this area in late summer and they’re really good, but generally speaking, the last minute fill-ins for these jobs leave something to be desired.

How would they do that if classes are already maxed out? For example, let's say "County Middle School" should have three Civics teachers, but they have an unfilled vacancy. Teacher #1 already has 150 students, Teacher #2 already has 150 students, and the vacancy should have 150 students. If they tried to split those 150 students between the other two teachers, they'd have 225 students each. Even if they both get put on extended contracts (teaching six classes rather than five), that would still make each class have 35-38 students. That's outrageous.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they don’t we just go without those positions. If it’s a Gen Ed position, the other Gen Ed teachers in that grade or content level simply have bigger classes to absorb the students that teacher would’ve theoretically taught. If it’s an EL position, the kids who need El support in their class may not have an EL teacher to do that. If it’s a sped position, the same. It creates issues with class size, staff workload, and student support, but you can’t make people take these jobs and fewer and fewer people want them.

Also, as a general rule, the later in the year that someone is hired, the greater the likelihood they are not a great candidate. The good people are snatched up early when hiring begins. If someone is getting hired in July/August, it’s usually a “there aren’t any other options” situation where the school needs a body and hopes for the best. There’s some exceptions to this, like someone happens to just move to this area in late summer and they’re really good, but generally speaking, the last minute fill-ins for these jobs leave something to be desired.

How would they do that if classes are already maxed out? For example, let's say "County Middle School" should have three Civics teachers, but they have an unfilled vacancy. Teacher #1 already has 150 students, Teacher #2 already has 150 students, and the vacancy should have 150 students. If they tried to split those 150 students between the other two teachers, they'd have 225 students each. Even if they both get put on extended contracts (teaching six classes rather than five), that would still make each class have 35-38 students. That's outrageous.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they don’t we just go without those positions. If it’s a Gen Ed position, the other Gen Ed teachers in that grade or content level simply have bigger classes to absorb the students that teacher would’ve theoretically taught. If it’s an EL position, the kids who need El support in their class may not have an EL teacher to do that. If it’s a sped position, the same. It creates issues with class size, staff workload, and student support, but you can’t make people take these jobs and fewer and fewer people want them.

Also, as a general rule, the later in the year that someone is hired, the greater the likelihood they are not a great candidate. The good people are snatched up early when hiring begins. If someone is getting hired in July/August, it’s usually a “there aren’t any other options” situation where the school needs a body and hopes for the best. There’s some exceptions to this, like someone happens to just move to this area in late summer and they’re really good, but generally speaking, the last minute fill-ins for these jobs leave something to be desired.

How would they do that if classes are already maxed out? For example, let's say "County Middle School" should have three Civics teachers, but they have an unfilled vacancy. Teacher #1 already has 150 students, Teacher #2 already has 150 students, and the vacancy should have 150 students. If they tried to split those 150 students between the other two teachers, they'd have 225 students each. Even if they both get put on extended contracts (teaching six classes rather than five), that would still make each class have 35-38 students. That's outrageous.

Anonymous wrote:If they don’t we just go without those positions. If it’s a Gen Ed position, the other Gen Ed teachers in that grade or content level simply have bigger classes to absorb the students that teacher would’ve theoretically taught. If it’s an EL position, the kids who need El support in their class may not have an EL teacher to do that. If it’s a sped position, the same. It creates issues with class size, staff workload, and student support, but you can’t make people take these jobs and fewer and fewer people want them.

Also, as a general rule, the later in the year that someone is hired, the greater the likelihood they are not a great candidate. The good people are snatched up early when hiring begins. If someone is getting hired in July/August, it’s usually a “there aren’t any other options” situation where the school needs a body and hopes for the best. There’s some exceptions to this, like someone happens to just move to this area in late summer and they’re really good, but generally speaking, the last minute fill-ins for these jobs leave something to be desired.

Anonymous wrote:I would imagine it’s going to get worse. Kids are not going into education as much. Why would they? Terrible pay, getting vitriol from parents and politicians, can’t hold kids accountable. I feel for teachers. They don’t get enough money and respect.

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Anonymous wrote:I am wondering if the gatehouse people are focusing on filling these positions over the summer? Is this a top priority for them or are they more focused on trivial matters?

They aren't as focused on filling positions as they should be. It should be the very top priority and anything else that isn't essential should be shelved until they address it. Re-allocate money, cut non-classroom positions, and do whatever else it takes to attract teachers and retain the ones who are leaving. This is a problem everywhere.
I can also tell you that vacancy list isn't complete. Our school is short three positions in different subjects that aren't even listed.

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Anonymous wrote:This has happened every year for at least the past decade. Most will get filled, some unlucky kids will get long term subs

Lots of unlucky kids will get unqualified teachers and we will have to listen to all year whining about it. Let's not act cavalier about the shortage it's impacting our kids.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a ton of FCPS vacancies currently. Any idea how many they will fill over the summer? Do they aggressively try to fill them? What happens if they don't?

100’s or 1,000’s?

I am not sure but it is a lot of scrolling.
https://careers.fcps.edu/vl/vacancy.htm

Who creates these websites? There are no job descriptions, no pay ranges, no information at all, just a link to apply. I don’t want to think about applying if you give me no info up front. Maybe part of the reason they can’t get people to apply.

When you go to the apply button and create an account, the position info is located there. (Salaries are publicly posted and depend on years of experience),

I hit apply, it tells me to go fill out online application, I click that it takes me to another search bar for jobs. I search all, the job I would be interested in doesn’t even show up.

Usually the hiring process is as good as it gets, this is a bloody nightmare. I can do better elsewhere with some place that doesn’t require hoops to jump through.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am wondering if the gatehouse people are focusing on filling these positions over the summer? Is this a top priority for them or are they more focused on trivial matters?

They aren't as focused on filling positions as they should be. It should be the very top priority and anything else that isn't essential should be shelved until they address it. Re-allocate money, cut non-classroom positions, and do whatever else it takes to attract teachers and retain the ones who are leaving. This is a problem everywhere.
I can also tell you that vacancy list isn't complete. Our school is short three positions in different subjects that aren't even listed.

Anonymous wrote:I am wondering if the gatehouse people are focusing on filling these positions over the summer? Is this a top priority for them or are they more focused on trivial matters?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a ton of FCPS vacancies currently. Any idea how many they will fill over the summer? Do they aggressively try to fill them? What happens if they don't?

100’s or 1,000’s?

I am not sure but it is a lot of scrolling.
https://careers.fcps.edu/vl/vacancy.htm

Who creates these websites? There are no job descriptions, no pay ranges, no information at all, just a link to apply. I don’t want to think about applying if you give me no info up front. Maybe part of the reason they can’t get people to apply.

When you go to the apply button and create an account, the position info is located there. (Salaries are publicly posted and depend on years of experience),

I hit apply, it tells me to go fill out online application, I click that it takes me to another search bar for jobs. I search all, the job I would be interested in doesn’t even show up.

Usually the hiring process is as good as it gets, this is a bloody nightmare. I can do better elsewhere with some place that doesn’t require hoops to jump through.

And the hoops never stop once you get hired