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Anonymous wrote:The reason the semaglutide meds work so well is that we stripped the fat out of food in the name of health but kept or increased the sugar (like yogurt), when really the fat was giving satiation, and without it we just keep eating more calories. I guess atkins said this but now the evidence of the miraculous effect of the semaglutide seems to confirm it was never the fat but the sugar (and especially detached from fat) that is the problem.

Fat provides satiety, but so does fiber and with no downsides like saturated fat has.

High fiber diet works like semaglutide to shut down food noise and quell food cravings. You really have to ditch added and refined sugars close to entirely, because sugar is addictive and drives overconsumption- and it is also poisonous in the body when it is detached from fiber. Sugar attached to fiber in fruits and vegetables is fine to consume.

Fiber feeds the gut bacteria who then crank out short chain fatty acids that cannot be otherwise obtained by food or supplements. SCFAs are critical to health and are cancer preventative. A well fell gut biome also regulates all kinds of hormones including serotonin, 95% of which is made in the gut, not the brain.

People are sick of me posting about this but it’s the answer to good health and weight loss/management. FIBER, from real food. Lots of it, every single day!

The issue with this is that many people's guts are broken beyond repair and they don't have the bacteria needed to break down all that fiber. It's why IBS and IBD are so prevalent and why so many people feel better on the low fodmap diet. Your best bet is to eat fermented foods and supplement with soil based probiotics to try and fix your gut and then VERY slowly increase your fiber. That doesn't work for everyone though.

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Anonymous wrote:All we need in this thread now is somebody to come in and repeat the YouTube pervasive conspiracy about big grain and the USDA food pyramid as if they are a genius, and this whole “crazy theory” will be complete.

Meanwhile, anybody who is not an idiot has been aware that refined sugar is the problem for a long long time. If you don’t know that, you are a knuckle dragger who hasn’t been paying attention for at least the past 15 years.

Okay then, why are the shelves full of fat free yogurts and milks ? Tons of products are still described as low fat or fat free. And the ‘low sugar’ products are filled with fake sugars.

Because the processed food producers can make more money by taking the fat out of dairy and selling it to us separately

It doesn't help matters that countless doctors/nutritionists still think "low fat diets" are healthier.

I think this is a reasonable theory not a crazy one.

If you've ever watched a person in your life go from a healthy weight to a little overweight to obese then it's unlikely you watched them going from low fat foods to a much higher fat diet. This is always something that interests me because I watched both my parents become obese in middle age and while there was a decent amount of fat in their diets this had always been true -- they were raised in meat and potatoes and whole milk homes and ate that way pretty much their entire lives. The key difference was that starting in their 30s they started eating a TON of highly processed foods that were high in sugar and preservatives. Actually not a ton of sugar but LOTS of high fructose corn syrup. And I think this is what led to them becoming obese as opposed to just the somewhat typical middle aged weight gain.

I don't even think you need to cut sugar from your diet but just avoiding foods with tons of added sugars can make a huge difference. The problem is that it's really hard to avoid added sugars in American foods -- they are in everything from bread to peanut butter to jarred sauces to granola bars to canned fruit to... well you name it. If you switch to brands that do not add sugar to everything you can eat pretty much the same as you did before and lose weight. And you can still eat dessert and sweets but the point is that you are consuming sugar consciously and in moderation instead of having it in every single thing you eat.

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Anonymous wrote:All we need in this thread now is somebody to come in and repeat the YouTube pervasive conspiracy about big grain and the USDA food pyramid as if they are a genius, and this whole “crazy theory” will be complete.

Meanwhile, anybody who is not an idiot has been aware that refined sugar is the problem for a long long time. If you don’t know that, you are a knuckle dragger who hasn’t been paying attention for at least the past 15 years.

Okay then, why are the shelves full of fat free yogurts and milks ? Tons of products are still described as low fat or fat free. And the ‘low sugar’ products are filled with fake sugars.

Because the processed food producers can make more money by taking the fat out of dairy and selling it to us separately

Well, I have always eaten a balanced diet, mostly from scratch, avoiding juice and sugary foods, as well as "diet" foods, yet I had a heck of a time losing weight -- mostly because I needed to eat far less than the recommended amount to lose weight (that is, I need to eat 1000 calories/day instead of 1200 calories/day to lose weight). Maybe I have a different metabolism, but it is what it is. Yes, people ate more sugar during the "low fat" revolution, but that is nothing new.

Anonymous wrote:All we need in this thread now is somebody to come in and repeat the YouTube pervasive conspiracy about big grain and the USDA food pyramid as if they are a genius, and this whole “crazy theory” will be complete.

Meanwhile, anybody who is not an idiot has been aware that refined sugar is the problem for a long long time. If you don’t know that, you are a knuckle dragger who hasn’t been paying attention for at least the past 15 years.

It's been longer than that.

https://academic.oup.com/jhmas/article/63/2/139/772615?login=false

I am on Zepbound and find that high fat food bothers me and doesn't taste good either. Also spicy foods do not agree with me on Zepbound. I'm eating a lot less and that's the main thing.

I have been on SSRIs for about 25 years and reached menopause and gained weight. I think they stimulate your appetite and it because normal for me to eat more. I look back and remember not wanting as much food as I became accustomed to having seconds and that kind of thing. I can't go off them; I have tried.

Fat definitely helps with saeity and that's important.

I blame Snackwell cookies.

Anonymous wrote:The low-fat revolution was a disaster and resulted in increased sugar consumption and staggering rates of obesity and diabetes. No doubt. Not sure about your analysis and conclusion about semaglutide though.

The "analysis" is not relevant or analysis at all.

the drug and fat have nothing to do with each other. You can take the drug and still eat all sugar and lose weight.
They are mutually exclusive.