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Anonymous wrote:Oh, I thought this was going to be something amazing like Jordan Chiles had stepped aside to let the younger generation in. I find it so incredibly selfish of people like Simone Biles just to keep going and shut amazing young athletes like Hezley, Tiana, Jocelyn, and others from shining.

I watched Hezley's bars today and was really impressed. I think the thinking is twofold:

1. With Simone, she full on said she stayed in the game to bring awareness and change re: the abuse that was happening.
2. Some people have nothing else going on in their lives. Madison Kocian went to UCLA after the Olympics and has become a physician's assistant or something. But someone like Gabrielle Douglas didn't go to college and hasn't transitioned to doing something else - some mild social media influencer work, but what else? She's floated around and finally tried to make another go of gymnastics at 27. What else does she have? She didn't transition to public/motivational speaking (Shawn Johnson East), to opening her own gym (Dominique Dawes/Moceanu, Chellsie M., Kim Z, etc.), to advocacy work (Aly Raisman), to running the National team (Chellsie M and Alicia S.), to sportscaster (Laurie Hernandez, Samantha P.), to running her own gymnastics competitions and/or clinics (Samatha P., Nastia Luikin). So what else is there? Simone promoted an unaccredited college after her first Olympics but never completed any degree. She does some influencer work. Eventually her body WILl give out. Olympic gold medals don't "pay" that much. It doesn't even cover the cost of coaching.

Someone like Jade Carey doing her second Olympics? I mean, whatever - she had to deal with the weird Covid Olympics so maybe she just wants a normal one. I feel bad for people like Simone B. and Gabrielle Douglas who don't seem to be pivoting to another career - their bodies are going to fall apart in their 40's - hip or knee replacements, osteoporosis, etc. Simone has already said she has horrible back pain all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, I thought this was going to be something amazing like Jordan Chiles had stepped aside to let the younger generation in. I find it so incredibly selfish of people like Simone Biles just to keep going and shut amazing young athletes like Hezley, Tiana, Jocelyn, and others from shining.

I watched Hezley's bars today and was really impressed. I think the thinking is twofold:

1. With Simone, she full on said she stayed in the game to bring awareness and change re: the abuse that was happening.
2. Some people have nothing else going on in their lives. Madison Kocian went to UCLA after the Olympics and has become a physician's assistant or something. But someone like Gabrielle Douglas didn't go to college and hasn't transitioned to doing something else - some mild social media influencer work, but what else? She's floated around and finally tried to make another go of gymnastics at 27. What else does she have? She didn't transition to public/motivational speaking (Shawn Johnson East), to opening her own gym (Dominique Dawes/Moceanu, Chellsie M., Kim Z, etc.), to advocacy work (Aly Raisman), to running the National team (Chellsie M and Alicia S.), to sportscaster (Laurie Hernandez, Samantha P.), to running her own gymnastics competitions and/or clinics (Samatha P., Nastia Luikin). So what else is there? Simone promoted an unaccredited college after her first Olympics but never completed any degree. She does some influencer work. Eventually her body WILl give out. Olympic gold medals don't "pay" that much. It doesn't even cover the cost of coaching.

Someone like Jade Carey doing her second Olympics? I mean, whatever - she had to deal with the weird Covid Olympics so maybe she just wants a normal one. I feel bad for people like Simone B. and Gabrielle Douglas who don't seem to be pivoting to another career - their bodies are going to fall apart in their 40's - hip or knee replacements, osteoporosis, etc. Simone has already said she has horrible back pain all the time.

Simone has had made very good money on endorsement deals and she's married to an NFL player and her family owns her gym. She's not going broke

+1 she's among the most recognizable athletes in the world. She hasn't made a "pivot" because she's still competing at the highest level and doesn't need to. But she could easily shift to coaching or commentating when she does actually decide to retire.

To me the fact that she's performing at this level at age 27 is really phenomenal. This is a sport that used to consider an athlete over the hill at 18. Good for her and good for us that we get to watch her compete at another Olympics.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, I thought this was going to be something amazing like Jordan Chiles had stepped aside to let the younger generation in. I find it so incredibly selfish of people like Simone Biles just to keep going and shut amazing young athletes like Hezley, Tiana, Jocelyn, and others from shining.

I watched Hezley's bars today and was really impressed. I think the thinking is twofold:

1. With Simone, she full on said she stayed in the game to bring awareness and change re: the abuse that was happening.
2. Some people have nothing else going on in their lives. Madison Kocian went to UCLA after the Olympics and has become a physician's assistant or something. But someone like Gabrielle Douglas didn't go to college and hasn't transitioned to doing something else - some mild social media influencer work, but what else? She's floated around and finally tried to make another go of gymnastics at 27. What else does she have? She didn't transition to public/motivational speaking (Shawn Johnson East), to opening her own gym (Dominique Dawes/Moceanu, Chellsie M., Kim Z, etc.), to advocacy work (Aly Raisman), to running the National team (Chellsie M and Alicia S.), to sportscaster (Laurie Hernandez, Samantha P.), to running her own gymnastics competitions and/or clinics (Samatha P., Nastia Luikin). So what else is there? Simone promoted an unaccredited college after her first Olympics but never completed any degree. She does some influencer work. Eventually her body WILl give out. Olympic gold medals don't "pay" that much. It doesn't even cover the cost of coaching.

Someone like Jade Carey doing her second Olympics? I mean, whatever - she had to deal with the weird Covid Olympics so maybe she just wants a normal one. I feel bad for people like Simone B. and Gabrielle Douglas who don't seem to be pivoting to another career - their bodies are going to fall apart in their 40's - hip or knee replacements, osteoporosis, etc. Simone has already said she has horrible back pain all the time.

Gabrielle Douglas received a lot of heat for not smiling enough--no one likes reserved, talented black women

I remember that - and for having messy hair, which I notice Simone has sometimes too. Messy hair, don't care - show me how well you flip.

I think Simone and Suni intentionally keep their "gym rat" hair for competition specifically as an fu to critics who want these women to be perfectly done up while the compete in an incredibly difficult sport. Notice that they will have a full face of makeup and Simone wears huge false eyelashes but they still wear their hair in messy buns with no hairspray or pins to keep flyaways in check. It's a purposeful choice and I do think it dates back to Gabby getting a ton of criticism for her hair and that criticism being both sexist and racist because part of the issue was with Gabby's hair texture and treatment.

In any case these are Olympic athletes doing stuff I could never do in a million years and I don't care how they wear their hair. They aren't beauty queens.

There's actually a surprising amount of hairspray, pins, and elastic bands keeping that "gym rat" hair in place. Simone and Suni also had tight braids holding their hair in place. Sloppy floppy half buns would fall out in 2 seconds. Their hair is carefully constructed to give the illusion of being messy, while actually being very carefully sculpted into place.

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Anonymous wrote:For not feeling the pressure to wear a shiny red 90s scrunched, eschew edge control, and for saying no to the toddler-ish shiny red bottom unitard.

I don't think the athletes got to pick their leos. They were split into rotations and there are a set number of Team USA leos. Perhaps the groups got to vote among themselves for which leo they wore but their options were probably limited. Agree the other leo was better but it's not like Jordan got to pick -- she wore the same leo as everyone in her rotation.

They do get to decide how they wear their hair.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, I thought this was going to be something amazing like Jordan Chiles had stepped aside to let the younger generation in. I find it so incredibly selfish of people like Simone Biles just to keep going and shut amazing young athletes like Hezley, Tiana, Jocelyn, and others from shining.

I watched Hezley's bars today and was really impressed. I think the thinking is twofold:

1. With Simone, she full on said she stayed in the game to bring awareness and change re: the abuse that was happening.
2. Some people have nothing else going on in their lives. Madison Kocian went to UCLA after the Olympics and has become a physician's assistant or something. But someone like Gabrielle Douglas didn't go to college and hasn't transitioned to doing something else - some mild social media influencer work, but what else? She's floated around and finally tried to make another go of gymnastics at 27. What else does she have? She didn't transition to public/motivational speaking (Shawn Johnson East), to opening her own gym (Dominique Dawes/Moceanu, Chellsie M., Kim Z, etc.), to advocacy work (Aly Raisman), to running the National team (Chellsie M and Alicia S.), to sportscaster (Laurie Hernandez, Samantha P.), to running her own gymnastics competitions and/or clinics (Samatha P., Nastia Luikin). So what else is there? Simone promoted an unaccredited college after her first Olympics but never completed any degree. She does some influencer work. Eventually her body WILl give out. Olympic gold medals don't "pay" that much. It doesn't even cover the cost of coaching.

Someone like Jade Carey doing her second Olympics? I mean, whatever - she had to deal with the weird Covid Olympics so maybe she just wants a normal one. I feel bad for people like Simone B. and Gabrielle Douglas who don't seem to be pivoting to another career - their bodies are going to fall apart in their 40's - hip or knee replacements, osteoporosis, etc. Simone has already said she has horrible back pain all the time.

Gabrielle Douglas received a lot of heat for not smiling enough--no one likes reserved, talented black women

I remember that - and for having messy hair, which I notice Simone has sometimes too. Messy hair, don't care - show me how well you flip.

I think Simone and Suni intentionally keep their "gym rat" hair for competition specifically as an fu to critics who want these women to be perfectly done up while the compete in an incredibly difficult sport. Notice that they will have a full face of makeup and Simone wears huge false eyelashes but they still wear their hair in messy buns with no hairspray or pins to keep flyaways in check. It's a purposeful choice and I do think it dates back to Gabby getting a ton of criticism for her hair and that criticism being both sexist and racist because part of the issue was with Gabby's hair texture and treatment.

In any case these are Olympic athletes doing stuff I could never do in a million years and I don't care how they wear their hair. They aren't beauty queens.

Anonymous wrote:Oh, I thought this was going to be something amazing like Jordan Chiles had stepped aside to let the younger generation in. I find it so incredibly selfish of people like Simone Biles just to keep going and shut amazing young athletes like Hezley, Tiana, Jocelyn, and others from shining.

Anonymous wrote:For not feeling the pressure to wear a shiny red 90s scrunched, eschew edge control, and for saying no to the toddler-ish shiny red bottom unitard.

Anonymous wrote:Why should the best gymnast in the world stop doing gymnastics when she is still the best gymnast in the world?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, I thought this was going to be something amazing like Jordan Chiles had stepped aside to let the younger generation in. I find it so incredibly selfish of people like Simone Biles just to keep going and shut amazing young athletes like Hezley, Tiana, Jocelyn, and others from shining.

I watched Hezley's bars today and was really impressed. I think the thinking is twofold:

1. With Simone, she full on said she stayed in the game to bring awareness and change re: the abuse that was happening.
2. Some people have nothing else going on in their lives. Madison Kocian went to UCLA after the Olympics and has become a physician's assistant or something. But someone like Gabrielle Douglas didn't go to college and hasn't transitioned to doing something else - some mild social media influencer work, but what else? She's floated around and finally tried to make another go of gymnastics at 27. What else does she have? She didn't transition to public/motivational speaking (Shawn Johnson East), to opening her own gym (Dominique Dawes/Moceanu, Chellsie M., Kim Z, etc.), to advocacy work (Aly Raisman), to running the National team (Chellsie M and Alicia S.), to sportscaster (Laurie Hernandez, Samantha P.), to running her own gymnastics competitions and/or clinics (Samatha P., Nastia Luikin). So what else is there? Simone promoted an unaccredited college after her first Olympics but never completed any degree. She does some influencer work. Eventually her body WILl give out. Olympic gold medals don't "pay" that much. It doesn't even cover the cost of coaching.

Someone like Jade Carey doing her second Olympics? I mean, whatever - she had to deal with the weird Covid Olympics so maybe she just wants a normal one. I feel bad for people like Simone B. and Gabrielle Douglas who don't seem to be pivoting to another career - their bodies are going to fall apart in their 40's - hip or knee replacements, osteoporosis, etc. Simone has already said she has horrible back pain all the time.

Simone has had made very good money on endorsement deals and she's married to an NFL player and her family owns her gym. She's not going broke

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, I thought this was going to be something amazing like Jordan Chiles had stepped aside to let the younger generation in. I find it so incredibly selfish of people like Simone Biles just to keep going and shut amazing young athletes like Hezley, Tiana, Jocelyn, and others from shining.

I watched Hezley's bars today and was really impressed. I think the thinking is twofold:

1. With Simone, she full on said she stayed in the game to bring awareness and change re: the abuse that was happening.
2. Some people have nothing else going on in their lives. Madison Kocian went to UCLA after the Olympics and has become a physician's assistant or something. But someone like Gabrielle Douglas didn't go to college and hasn't transitioned to doing something else - some mild social media influencer work, but what else? She's floated around and finally tried to make another go of gymnastics at 27. What else does she have? She didn't transition to public/motivational speaking (Shawn Johnson East), to opening her own gym (Dominique Dawes/Moceanu, Chellsie M., Kim Z, etc.), to advocacy work (Aly Raisman), to running the National team (Chellsie M and Alicia S.), to sportscaster (Laurie Hernandez, Samantha P.), to running her own gymnastics competitions and/or clinics (Samatha P., Nastia Luikin). So what else is there? Simone promoted an unaccredited college after her first Olympics but never completed any degree. She does some influencer work. Eventually her body WILl give out. Olympic gold medals don't "pay" that much. It doesn't even cover the cost of coaching.

Someone like Jade Carey doing her second Olympics? I mean, whatever - she had to deal with the weird Covid Olympics so maybe she just wants a normal one. I feel bad for people like Simone B. and Gabrielle Douglas who don't seem to be pivoting to another career - their bodies are going to fall apart in their 40's - hip or knee replacements, osteoporosis, etc. Simone has already said she has horrible back pain all the time.

Gabrielle Douglas received a lot of heat for not smiling enough--no one likes reserved, talented black women

I remember that - and for having messy hair, which I notice Simone has sometimes too. Messy hair, don't care - show me how well you flip.

I think Simone and Suni intentionally keep their "gym rat" hair for competition specifically as an fu to critics who want these women to be perfectly done up while the compete in an incredibly difficult sport. Notice that they will have a full face of makeup and Simone wears huge false eyelashes but they still wear their hair in messy buns with no hairspray or pins to keep flyaways in check. It's a purposeful choice and I do think it dates back to Gabby getting a ton of criticism for her hair and that criticism being both sexist and racist because part of the issue was with Gabby's hair texture and treatment.

In any case these are Olympic athletes doing stuff I could never do in a million years and I don't care how they wear their hair. They aren't beauty queens.

Look at the track and field women--they all wear polished, modern, adult hairstyles, that fit their personal styles--low cut fades, TWAs, pink hair, braids, ponytails, some with baby hair, flowing wigs, the point is, they are being themselves. Simone and crew, they think they are doing an edgy we are athletes and we don't worry about hair, but they actually just look uniformly silly and sloppy, as if to make it a virtue.

Anonymous wrote:Why should the best gymnast in the world stop doing gymnastics when she is still the best gymnast in the world?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, I thought this was going to be something amazing like Jordan Chiles had stepped aside to let the younger generation in. I find it so incredibly selfish of people like Simone Biles just to keep going and shut amazing young athletes like Hezley, Tiana, Jocelyn, and others from shining.

I watched Hezley's bars today and was really impressed. I think the thinking is twofold:

1. With Simone, she full on said she stayed in the game to bring awareness and change re: the abuse that was happening.
2. Some people have nothing else going on in their lives. Madison Kocian went to UCLA after the Olympics and has become a physician's assistant or something. But someone like Gabrielle Douglas didn't go to college and hasn't transitioned to doing something else - some mild social media influencer work, but what else? She's floated around and finally tried to make another go of gymnastics at 27. What else does she have? She didn't transition to public/motivational speaking (Shawn Johnson East), to opening her own gym (Dominique Dawes/Moceanu, Chellsie M., Kim Z, etc.), to advocacy work (Aly Raisman), to running the National team (Chellsie M and Alicia S.), to sportscaster (Laurie Hernandez, Samantha P.), to running her own gymnastics competitions and/or clinics (Samatha P., Nastia Luikin). So what else is there? Simone promoted an unaccredited college after her first Olympics but never completed any degree. She does some influencer work. Eventually her body WILl give out. Olympic gold medals don't "pay" that much. It doesn't even cover the cost of coaching.

Someone like Jade Carey doing her second Olympics? I mean, whatever - she had to deal with the weird Covid Olympics so maybe she just wants a normal one. I feel bad for people like Simone B. and Gabrielle Douglas who don't seem to be pivoting to another career - their bodies are going to fall apart in their 40's - hip or knee replacements, osteoporosis, etc. Simone has already said she has horrible back pain all the time.

Anonymous wrote:Oh, I thought this was going to be something amazing like Jordan Chiles had stepped aside to let the younger generation in. I find it so incredibly selfish of people like Simone Biles just to keep going and shut amazing young athletes like Hezley, Tiana, Jocelyn, and others from shining.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, I thought this was going to be something amazing like Jordan Chiles had stepped aside to let the younger generation in. I find it so incredibly selfish of people like Simone Biles just to keep going and shut amazing young athletes like Hezley, Tiana, Jocelyn, and others from shining.

I watched Hezley's bars today and was really impressed. I think the thinking is twofold:

1. With Simone, she full on said she stayed in the game to bring awareness and change re: the abuse that was happening.
2. Some people have nothing else going on in their lives. Madison Kocian went to UCLA after the Olympics and has become a physician's assistant or something. But someone like Gabrielle Douglas didn't go to college and hasn't transitioned to doing something else - some mild social media influencer work, but what else? She's floated around and finally tried to make another go of gymnastics at 27. What else does she have? She didn't transition to public/motivational speaking (Shawn Johnson East), to opening her own gym (Dominique Dawes/Moceanu, Chellsie M., Kim Z, etc.), to advocacy work (Aly Raisman), to running the National team (Chellsie M and Alicia S.), to sportscaster (Laurie Hernandez, Samantha P.), to running her own gymnastics competitions and/or clinics (Samatha P., Nastia Luikin). So what else is there? Simone promoted an unaccredited college after her first Olympics but never completed any degree. She does some influencer work. Eventually her body WILl give out. Olympic gold medals don't "pay" that much. It doesn't even cover the cost of coaching.

Someone like Jade Carey doing her second Olympics? I mean, whatever - she had to deal with the weird Covid Olympics so maybe she just wants a normal one. I feel bad for people like Simone B. and Gabrielle Douglas who don't seem to be pivoting to another career - their bodies are going to fall apart in their 40's - hip or knee replacements, osteoporosis, etc. Simone has already said she has horrible back pain all the time.

Gabrielle Douglas received a lot of heat for not smiling enough--no one likes reserved, talented black women

I remember that - and for having messy hair, which I notice Simone has sometimes too. Messy hair, don't care - show me how well you flip.

I think Simone and Suni intentionally keep their "gym rat" hair for competition specifically as an fu to critics who want these women to be perfectly done up while the compete in an incredibly difficult sport. Notice that they will have a full face of makeup and Simone wears huge false eyelashes but they still wear their hair in messy buns with no hairspray or pins to keep flyaways in check. It's a purposeful choice and I do think it dates back to Gabby getting a ton of criticism for her hair and that criticism being both sexist and racist because part of the issue was with Gabby's hair texture and treatment.

In any case these are Olympic athletes doing stuff I could never do in a million years and I don't care how they wear their hair. They aren't beauty queens.