Anonymous
06/26/2024 14:48
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone watching? It’s amazing how hard they work and how much they put their body through for such little pay.
Sad really. Have we come very far with this in society? Hard to tell.
Allowing women to control their own bodies and lifestyles?
Yeah, no. I won’t watch.
It’s a $9 billion dollar industry, (Dallas Cowboys being the richest in the world) that pays its cheerleaders around $15-20 per hour, about $22,500 on average annually.
I hope they got paid to make the documentary.
you do realize most of them have actual, real jobs and that this is something they do seasonally?
NP. Yep, exactly, it's seasonal work and they are expected to have other jobs.
When I moved to DC almost 20 years ago now, I considered trying out for the cheerleading team for what was then the (horribly named) Redskins, now the Commanders. I recall that having an actual job/career (or full time school) was a requirement to even try out for the team. I finally faced it that I couldn't do it, because I had to travel too much for work -- the judge isn't going to give you an extension because you have a game.
I do wish they would pay these women more though. What they do is worth a hell of a lot more than what they are paid. It does appear exploitive.
Anonymous
06/26/2024 14:40
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
I'm obsessed with it, but I spent my early childhood in Dallas and I idolized the cheerleaders.
Anonymous
06/26/2024 14:23
Subject: Re:Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
Anonymous wrote:I don't know much about dance, but it seems to me that if one judge says something is off with the woman auditioning, everyone takes their cue from that negative report. Also, I don't see what is so great about some of them (and their awkward choreography) versus what is just "off" about the ones they don't like. Is that just me though? Like I said, not a dance expert.
I think some just have that charisma. It was obvious Reece was going to stand out and she does seem to have something some of the others don't. But I don't agree with them on all of the girls. Victoria seems like she gets an edge due to her connections that she didn't earn.
Anonymous
06/26/2024 14:18
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone watching? It’s amazing how hard they work and how much they put their body through for such little pay.
Sad really. Have we come very far with this in society? Hard to tell.
Allowing women to control their own bodies and lifestyles?
Yeah, no. I won’t watch.
It’s a $9 billion dollar industry, (Dallas Cowboys being the richest in the world) that pays its cheerleaders around $15-20 per hour, about $22,500 on average annually.
I hope they got paid to make the documentary.
you do realize most of them have actual, real jobs and that this is something they do seasonally?
Agree. I just started this so I don't know who gets cut. But one is a nurse, another is an orthodontist, they mention doing this at night after work. They have jobs, this is a hobby. They do 10 games a year, not factoring in the practice time. Not unlike competing in triathlons and putting yourself through all that work for nothing. Nobody pays you to compete in triathlons and buy expensive bikes and you don't even get anything for finishing.
Anonymous
06/26/2024 14:12
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
Anonymous wrote:This show diminishes women and our standing in the world. The fat shaming and makeovers they did in the last were disgusting. Cannot imagine how this show perpetuates.
I can see why some folks would see it this way. But you do understand that the focus on appearance occurs in many other performative arts right? Broadway, Ballet, Dancers for music videos. Even diving, swimming, gymnastics which we will see in the Olympics. There is a certain physicality that needs to be maintained. I actually like how they focused on the girls' stamina and endurance, and asking them 'are you fueling yourself?' ie, are you getting enough nutrition in your body? Honestly, the number of hours that those women trained during the week, there wouldn't be a reason to focus on fat due to the sheer number of calories burned unless they were eating the wrong foods for fuel.
Anonymous
06/26/2024 13:44
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
Anonymous wrote:what do these women go on to do? i had the impression it "set them up" as professional dancers but - for how long? is it some sort of weird equivalent to having belonged to a top sorority and thus getting a good husband?
The younger ones are students, the ones who have been on the squad a few years seem to have varying jobs based on what I saw on the DCC Making the Team show that used to be on CMT. Some of them had regular jobs - lots of receptionists/office assistants and lots in sales - and some were in fitness or dance full time, lots of Pilates instructors and dance teachers. Cheerleader pay is really low so they do mandate that the cheerleaders have some kind of a day job (being a Ft student counts and I would guess being a SAHM counts too).
Yes, I do think some of them are looking to land a rich husband - not a Cowboys player, but more a high income guy at an event that pays for a few cheerleaders to attend. It’s also a draw if you want to continue in dance as an instructor or choreographer to have DCC experience. And I think the DCC are pretty restrictive about what the cheerleaders can have on social media while they are active cheerleaders, but having been a cheerleader is obviously super helpful if you want to grow a social media/influencer following after your cheerleading days are over. Basically the same things that any young and conventionally attractive woman does!
Anonymous
06/26/2024 13:27
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
This show diminishes women and our standing in the world. The fat shaming and makeovers they did in the last were disgusting. Cannot imagine how this show perpetuates.
Anonymous
06/26/2024 13:16
Subject: Re:Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
I don't know much about dance, but it seems to me that if one judge says something is off with the woman auditioning, everyone takes their cue from that negative report. Also, I don't see what is so great about some of them (and their awkward choreography) versus what is just "off" about the ones they don't like. Is that just me though? Like I said, not a dance expert.
Anonymous
06/26/2024 13:10
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone watching? It’s amazing how hard they work and how much they put their body through for such little pay.
Sad really. Have we come very far with this in society? Hard to tell.
Allowing women to control their own bodies and lifestyles?
Yeah, no. I won’t watch.
It’s a $9 billion dollar industry, (Dallas Cowboys being the richest in the world) that pays its cheerleaders around $15-20 per hour, about $22,500 on average annually.
I hope they got paid to make the documentary.
you do realize most of them have actual, real jobs and that this is something they do seasonally?
Anonymous
06/26/2024 12:34
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
I liked the old format when it was on CMT a lot better than the Netflix one. I still watched though!
Anonymous
06/26/2024 10:42
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
I know someone who is an NHL ice girl, which is their version of a cheerleader. She makes less as an ice girl than she does working as a barista. She claims she can't have a more traditional job because so much of her time outside of the NHL season is spent prepping to make the team for another year. Her NHL team's season ended in April and auditions for the 2024-2025 ice girls season start in July.
She gets a LOT of services for free or greatly reduced from the local community. Like from doctors and specialists. It's good promo for them to have an ice girl as a client.
She gets a LOT of services for free or greatly reduced from the local community. Like from doctors and specialists. It's good promo for them to have an ice girl as a client.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 23:01
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
I went into watching this thinking it was going to be silly fluff, but actually really enjoyed it.
Anonymous
06/25/2024 16:43
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for the girls who stalled their lives and didn't make it, or the ones who stunted what could have been professional growth to aim for it, year after year. Also the one who quit college. They should mandate these girls have a degree like some professional sports do (and certainly if the NFL does...I don't recall if that is the case).
The orthodontist was so interesting to me. But I think she's better off and she did say she cheered for another team.
I don't see many going on to professional careers in dance, because they are physically beat up at the end if they've done this for 4+ years. But for the superstars I do suppose they could go on to coach or work in the NFL leading cheerleaders, or maybe start their own dance studio. That would bring significant cache and legitimate experience to a small town dance studio to say you were a DCC for a few years.
I haven't finished the series but I was gobsmacked at how they so obviously kept cutting Black and Brown girls. I mean I'm not, because this is Texas, but wow. It was pretty much an indictment of the entire system to say "the look really matters!" and "sorry, Black/brown girl, it isn't your year" in the same breath, many times over.
+1 It really seems like they have a ratio of blonde:non-blond white ladies:non-white ladies (8:4:1?) that they think makes the "squad" look ideal, and since they had 2 or 3 non-white veterans coming back, the rookies were SOL. I also thought it was really terrible the way they dyed the Jersey girl's hair brown, which she CLEARLY detested and was trying to be upbeat about, and then cut her 18 hours later. Like, if she's not going to make the team at least leave her head alone!
Anonymous
06/25/2024 16:39
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
^they don’t like
Anonymous
06/25/2024 16:39
Subject: Dallas cowboy cheerleader show - netflix
Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for the girls who stalled their lives and didn't make it, or the ones who stunted what could have been professional growth to aim for it, year after year. Also the one who quit college. They should mandate these girls have a degree like some professional sports do (and certainly if the NFL does...I don't recall if that is the case).
The orthodontist was so interesting to me. But I think she's better off and she did say she cheered for another team.
I don't see many going on to professional careers in dance, because they are physically beat up at the end if they've done this for 4+ years. But for the superstars I do suppose they could go on to coach or work in the NFL leading cheerleaders, or maybe start their own dance studio. That would bring significant cache and legitimate experience to a small town dance studio to say you were a DCC for a few years.
I haven't finished the series but I was gobsmacked at how they so obviously kept cutting Black and Brown girls. I mean I'm not, because this is Texas, but wow. It was pretty much an indictment of the entire system to say "the look really matters!" and "sorry, Black/brown girl, it isn't your year" in the same breath, many times over.
Don’t don’t like anyone who isn’t blonde and tall. They cut the red head because of “looks” and the petite girl.