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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

Yeah.. all that white concrete creates so much more heat than the black asphalt there used to... oh wait..

Somehow it does seem to. It is hotter than it was. Probably because it's nothing but an open expanse of concrete. FFS at least put some lampposts or planters on it. It's useless wasted space at the moment. What is it supposed to accomplish? It has no raison d'etre.

It was an open expanse of concrete before as well.

I get that you hate parking and are trying to hype this thing but gimme a break. It's pointless at the moment and a net negative. Maybe things will change after the vacuum cleaner and frame store get pushed out.

The ANC is working on it. Didn’t several ANC commissioners pose for a photo while giving the finger to these local businesses?

They won’t stop until it’s all chain stores. That’s their “vibrant“ goal.

The Smart-Aleck Growth group has grown tiresome and ridiculous.

The old CP civic community group people that had a pause button smashed on CP from 1975 to like 3 years ago is way freaking worse.

The quality of life in CP went over a cliff about three years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

Yeah.. all that white concrete creates so much more heat than the black asphalt there used to... oh wait..

Somehow it does seem to. It is hotter than it was. Probably because it's nothing but an open expanse of concrete. FFS at least put some lampposts or planters on it. It's useless wasted space at the moment. What is it supposed to accomplish? It has no raison d'etre.

It was an open expanse of concrete before as well.

I get that you hate parking and are trying to hype this thing but gimme a break. It's pointless at the moment and a net negative. Maybe things will change after the vacuum cleaner and frame store get pushed out.

The ANC is working on it. Didn’t several ANC commissioners pose for a photo while giving the finger to these local businesses?

They won’t stop until it’s all chain stores. That’s their “vibrant“ goal.

The Smart-Aleck Growth group has grown tiresome and ridiculous.

The old CP civic community group people that had a pause button smashed on CP from 1975 to like 3 years ago is way freaking worse.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

Yeah.. all that white concrete creates so much more heat than the black asphalt there used to... oh wait..

Somehow it does seem to. It is hotter than it was. Probably because it's nothing but an open expanse of concrete. FFS at least put some lampposts or planters on it. It's useless wasted space at the moment. What is it supposed to accomplish? It has no raison d'etre.

It was an open expanse of concrete before as well.

I get that you hate parking and are trying to hype this thing but gimme a break. It's pointless at the moment and a net negative. Maybe things will change after the vacuum cleaner and frame store get pushed out.

The ANC is working on it. Didn’t several ANC commissioners pose for a photo while giving the finger to these local businesses?

They won’t stop until it’s all chain stores. That’s their “vibrant“ goal.

The Smart-Aleck Growth group has grown tiresome and ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

Yeah.. all that white concrete creates so much more heat than the black asphalt there used to... oh wait..

Somehow it does seem to. It is hotter than it was. Probably because it's nothing but an open expanse of concrete. FFS at least put some lampposts or planters on it. It's useless wasted space at the moment. What is it supposed to accomplish? It has no raison d'etre.

It was an open expanse of concrete before as well.

I get that you hate parking and are trying to hype this thing but gimme a break. It's pointless at the moment and a net negative. Maybe things will change after the vacuum cleaner and frame store get pushed out.

The ANC is working on it. Didn’t several ANC commissioners pose for a photo while giving the finger to these local businesses?

They won’t stop until it’s all chain stores. That’s their “vibrant“ goal.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

Yeah.. all that white concrete creates so much more heat than the black asphalt there used to... oh wait..

Somehow it does seem to. It is hotter than it was. Probably because it's nothing but an open expanse of concrete. FFS at least put some lampposts or planters on it. It's useless wasted space at the moment. What is it supposed to accomplish? It has no raison d'etre.

"Somehow it does seem to" - um. A black surface (which is what the asphalt was) will retain energy more and therefore be significantly hotter than a white/gray surface. It is hotter because it is simply hotter outside. Oh and also previously if you were on the sidewalk, you were crammed into a tiny 4ft wide space that was right by the buildings and awnings and now you have a like 30ft sidewalk you can use at your leisure - or just walk close to the buildings for the awning/shadows.

People will apparently bi**h about anything. Jesus.

But the ANC told DDOT that a 6-foot sidewalk is plenty wide, to allow maximum space for private outdoor bar seating on “The Promenade.”

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

Yeah.. all that white concrete creates so much more heat than the black asphalt there used to... oh wait..

Somehow it does seem to. It is hotter than it was. Probably because it's nothing but an open expanse of concrete. FFS at least put some lampposts or planters on it. It's useless wasted space at the moment. What is it supposed to accomplish? It has no raison d'etre.

It was an open expanse of concrete before as well.

I get that you hate parking and are trying to hype this thing but gimme a break. It's pointless at the moment and a net negative. Maybe things will change after the vacuum cleaner and frame store get pushed out.

The ANC is working on it. Didn’t several ANC commissioners pose for a photo while giving the finger to these local businesses?

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

Yeah.. all that white concrete creates so much more heat than the black asphalt there used to... oh wait..

Somehow it does seem to. It is hotter than it was. Probably because it's nothing but an open expanse of concrete. FFS at least put some lampposts or planters on it. It's useless wasted space at the moment. What is it supposed to accomplish? It has no raison d'etre.

"Somehow it does seem to" - um. A black surface (which is what the asphalt was) will retain energy more and therefore be significantly hotter than a white/gray surface. It is hotter because it is simply hotter outside. Oh and also previously if you were on the sidewalk, you were crammed into a tiny 4ft wide space that was right by the buildings and awnings and now you have a like 30ft sidewalk you can use at your leisure - or just walk close to the buildings for the awning/shadows.

People will apparently bi**h about anything. Jesus.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

It seems to have less people on it then it did before the change. It's just a big slab of uninviting concrete and nothing else. Is the idea to give the businesses that outdoor space? Otherwise it makes no sense and serves no purpose.

The plan is that most of the Promenade will be available to food and drink establishments to create a more vibrant urban corridor.

So a strip of bars is the idea?

And vape shops and check cashing stores.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

It seems to have less people on it then it did before the change. It's just a big slab of uninviting concrete and nothing else. Is the idea to give the businesses that outdoor space? Otherwise it makes no sense and serves no purpose.

The plan is that most of the Promenade will be available to food and drink establishments to create a more vibrant urban corridor.

So a strip of bars is the idea?

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

Yeah.. all that white concrete creates so much more heat than the black asphalt there used to... oh wait..

Somehow it does seem to. It is hotter than it was. Probably because it's nothing but an open expanse of concrete. FFS at least put some lampposts or planters on it. It's useless wasted space at the moment. What is it supposed to accomplish? It has no raison d'etre.

It was an open expanse of concrete before as well.

I get that you hate parking and are trying to hype this thing but gimme a break. It's pointless at the moment and a net negative. Maybe things will change after the vacuum cleaner and frame store get pushed out.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

It seems to have less people on it then it did before the change. It's just a big slab of uninviting concrete and nothing else. Is the idea to give the businesses that outdoor space? Otherwise it makes no sense and serves no purpose.

The plan is that most of the Promenade will be available to food and drink establishments to create a more vibrant urban corridor.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

Yeah.. all that white concrete creates so much more heat than the black asphalt there used to... oh wait..

Somehow it does seem to. It is hotter than it was. Probably because it's nothing but an open expanse of concrete. FFS at least put some lampposts or planters on it. It's useless wasted space at the moment. What is it supposed to accomplish? It has no raison d'etre.

It was an open expanse of concrete before as well.

The Concrete Promenade seems to have fewer trees than when the area contained the side service road. How is that possible?!

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

Yeah.. all that white concrete creates so much more heat than the black asphalt there used to... oh wait..

Somehow it does seem to. It is hotter than it was. Probably because it's nothing but an open expanse of concrete. FFS at least put some lampposts or planters on it. It's useless wasted space at the moment. What is it supposed to accomplish? It has no raison d'etre.

It was an open expanse of concrete before as well.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

Yeah.. all that white concrete creates so much more heat than the black asphalt there used to... oh wait..

Somehow it does seem to. It is hotter than it was. Probably because it's nothing but an open expanse of concrete. FFS at least put some lampposts or planters on it. It's useless wasted space at the moment. What is it supposed to accomplish? It has no raison d'etre.

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Anonymous wrote:The amount of time Cleveland Park has been under construction is mind boggling.

When NIMBYs delay projects, that is what happens. so much of everything could have been completed years ago.

“The Promenade” is a total joke, a heat island that cost millions of dollars of taxpayer money with barely any trees, plants or seating. The ANC rep that the hope is that bars and businesses will provide seats and water flowers.

Yeah.. all that white concrete creates so much more heat than the black asphalt there used to... oh wait..