Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 23:26     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

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Anonymous wrote:In the name of equity, the bar has been lowered for everyone. This hurts everyone and especially the high achievers.


This. And the limited resources (funding, etc) are funneled toward the high-needs kids, with not much left over for the kids capable of more.


“High-needs kids”? Who exactly do you mean by that? Do you mean kids with special needs? What do you want APS to do with them?

I’m sure you are pushing the CB and Youngkin to increase funding.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 23:21     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will read the whole book while the regular class reads excerpts. It’s all relative. Intensified compared to the remedial (“regular”) class? Yes. But hardly an honors class. If you want rigor, you’ll need to go private.


My kid was at Swanson in 7th grade before the intensified classes were offered (now a rising 9th grader so 8th grade she took intensified classes) and this isn't true. They read entire books in 7th grade.

Just throwing in some facts if it helps.


I think that’s their point — that the “intensified” classes are just regular classes, and that the regular classes are actually remedial courses.


So you're saying that because APS now offers intensified classes, the regular classes they no longer read books? So there is no intensified at all, it's that APS renamed regular classes intensified and regular classes were dumbed down. I would ask APS or an actual teacher and not listen to people on this board personally. I have just seen over and over that people misrepresent the homework and test retake policies and portray they do nothing at school.


There’s been a sharp increase in kids who can’t handle grade level material and they have to put them somewhere. Intensified classes are for kids who can handle grade level work. Don’t fool yourself thinking it’s honors though.


Intensified classes were just added back to middle school this past school year due to direct pressure from the gifted and talented crowd, or whatever it's called now. So if APS pulled a fast one and intensified are just the regular classes and the regular classes are dumbed down, sincerely go to a School Board member and say something.


What’s the point? Won’t change anything. Equity is the name of the game. Don’t kid yourself thinking they care about the talented kids.


You’re saying that “equity” means kids aren’t talented? GTFO.


No, I’m saying that APS uses most of its resources for high-need kids, of which there are tons, leaving nothing but scraps for the well-prepared and talented kids.

Try to keep up, sweetie.


So high-need kids aren’t “talented”? Nice. You should stop digging.


Are many high-need kids identified for gifted/talented services at APS?


What is your definition of a “high-needs” kid? And WTF do you think that has to do with “equity”?


It’s already been explained to you. I can’t understand it for you.

Maybe someone can write it down for you in crayon.


Can’t deflect your way out of your own words - we can all see what you wrote.

You are conflating “equity” with “high needs” kids, who you consider to not be “talented”.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 22:59     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

Anonymous wrote:In the name of equity, the bar has been lowered for everyone. This hurts everyone and especially the high achievers.


This. And the limited resources (funding, etc) are funneled toward the high-needs kids, with not much left over for the kids capable of more.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 22:58     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will read the whole book while the regular class reads excerpts. It’s all relative. Intensified compared to the remedial (“regular”) class? Yes. But hardly an honors class. If you want rigor, you’ll need to go private.


My kid was at Swanson in 7th grade before the intensified classes were offered (now a rising 9th grader so 8th grade she took intensified classes) and this isn't true. They read entire books in 7th grade.

Just throwing in some facts if it helps.


I think that’s their point — that the “intensified” classes are just regular classes, and that the regular classes are actually remedial courses.


So you're saying that because APS now offers intensified classes, the regular classes they no longer read books? So there is no intensified at all, it's that APS renamed regular classes intensified and regular classes were dumbed down. I would ask APS or an actual teacher and not listen to people on this board personally. I have just seen over and over that people misrepresent the homework and test retake policies and portray they do nothing at school.


There’s been a sharp increase in kids who can’t handle grade level material and they have to put them somewhere. Intensified classes are for kids who can handle grade level work. Don’t fool yourself thinking it’s honors though.


Intensified classes were just added back to middle school this past school year due to direct pressure from the gifted and talented crowd, or whatever it's called now. So if APS pulled a fast one and intensified are just the regular classes and the regular classes are dumbed down, sincerely go to a School Board member and say something.


What’s the point? Won’t change anything. Equity is the name of the game. Don’t kid yourself thinking they care about the talented kids.


You’re saying that “equity” means kids aren’t talented? GTFO.


No, I’m saying that APS uses most of its resources for high-need kids, of which there are tons, leaving nothing but scraps for the well-prepared and talented kids.

Try to keep up, sweetie.


So high-need kids aren’t “talented”? Nice. You should stop digging.


Are many high-need kids identified for gifted/talented services at APS?


What is your definition of a “high-needs” kid? And WTF do you think that has to do with “equity”?


It’s already been explained to you. I can’t understand it for you.

Maybe someone can write it down for you in crayon.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 22:56     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

In the name of equity, the bar has been lowered for everyone. This hurts everyone and especially the high achievers.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 22:52     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will read the whole book while the regular class reads excerpts. It’s all relative. Intensified compared to the remedial (“regular”) class? Yes. But hardly an honors class. If you want rigor, you’ll need to go private.


My kid was at Swanson in 7th grade before the intensified classes were offered (now a rising 9th grader so 8th grade she took intensified classes) and this isn't true. They read entire books in 7th grade.

Just throwing in some facts if it helps.


I think that’s their point — that the “intensified” classes are just regular classes, and that the regular classes are actually remedial courses.


So you're saying that because APS now offers intensified classes, the regular classes they no longer read books? So there is no intensified at all, it's that APS renamed regular classes intensified and regular classes were dumbed down. I would ask APS or an actual teacher and not listen to people on this board personally. I have just seen over and over that people misrepresent the homework and test retake policies and portray they do nothing at school.


There’s been a sharp increase in kids who can’t handle grade level material and they have to put them somewhere. Intensified classes are for kids who can handle grade level work. Don’t fool yourself thinking it’s honors though.


Intensified classes were just added back to middle school this past school year due to direct pressure from the gifted and talented crowd, or whatever it's called now. So if APS pulled a fast one and intensified are just the regular classes and the regular classes are dumbed down, sincerely go to a School Board member and say something.


What’s the point? Won’t change anything. Equity is the name of the game. Don’t kid yourself thinking they care about the talented kids.


You’re saying that “equity” means kids aren’t talented? GTFO.


No, I’m saying that APS uses most of its resources for high-need kids, of which there are tons, leaving nothing but scraps for the well-prepared and talented kids.

Try to keep up, sweetie.


So high-need kids aren’t “talented”? Nice. You should stop digging.


Are many high-need kids identified for gifted/talented services at APS?


What is your definition of a “high-needs” kid? And WTF do you think that has to do with “equity”?
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 22:49     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will read the whole book while the regular class reads excerpts. It’s all relative. Intensified compared to the remedial (“regular”) class? Yes. But hardly an honors class. If you want rigor, you’ll need to go private.


My kid was at Swanson in 7th grade before the intensified classes were offered (now a rising 9th grader so 8th grade she took intensified classes) and this isn't true. They read entire books in 7th grade.

Just throwing in some facts if it helps.


I think that’s their point — that the “intensified” classes are just regular classes, and that the regular classes are actually remedial courses.


So you're saying that because APS now offers intensified classes, the regular classes they no longer read books? So there is no intensified at all, it's that APS renamed regular classes intensified and regular classes were dumbed down. I would ask APS or an actual teacher and not listen to people on this board personally. I have just seen over and over that people misrepresent the homework and test retake policies and portray they do nothing at school.


There’s been a sharp increase in kids who can’t handle grade level material and they have to put them somewhere. Intensified classes are for kids who can handle grade level work. Don’t fool yourself thinking it’s honors though.


Intensified classes were just added back to middle school this past school year due to direct pressure from the gifted and talented crowd, or whatever it's called now. So if APS pulled a fast one and intensified are just the regular classes and the regular classes are dumbed down, sincerely go to a School Board member and say something.


What’s the point? Won’t change anything. Equity is the name of the game. Don’t kid yourself thinking they care about the talented kids.


You’re saying that “equity” means kids aren’t talented? GTFO.


No, I’m saying that APS uses most of its resources for high-need kids, of which there are tons, leaving nothing but scraps for the well-prepared and talented kids.

Try to keep up, sweetie.


So high-need kids aren’t “talented”? Nice. You should stop digging.


Are many high-need kids identified for gifted/talented services at APS?
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 22:47     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will read the whole book while the regular class reads excerpts. It’s all relative. Intensified compared to the remedial (“regular”) class? Yes. But hardly an honors class. If you want rigor, you’ll need to go private.


My kid was at Swanson in 7th grade before the intensified classes were offered (now a rising 9th grader so 8th grade she took intensified classes) and this isn't true. They read entire books in 7th grade.

Just throwing in some facts if it helps.


I think that’s their point — that the “intensified” classes are just regular classes, and that the regular classes are actually remedial courses.


So you're saying that because APS now offers intensified classes, the regular classes they no longer read books? So there is no intensified at all, it's that APS renamed regular classes intensified and regular classes were dumbed down. I would ask APS or an actual teacher and not listen to people on this board personally. I have just seen over and over that people misrepresent the homework and test retake policies and portray they do nothing at school.


There’s been a sharp increase in kids who can’t handle grade level material and they have to put them somewhere. Intensified classes are for kids who can handle grade level work. Don’t fool yourself thinking it’s honors though.


Intensified classes were just added back to middle school this past school year due to direct pressure from the gifted and talented crowd, or whatever it's called now. So if APS pulled a fast one and intensified are just the regular classes and the regular classes are dumbed down, sincerely go to a School Board member and say something.


What’s the point? Won’t change anything. Equity is the name of the game. Don’t kid yourself thinking they care about the talented kids.


You’re saying that “equity” means kids aren’t talented? GTFO.


No, I’m saying that APS uses most of its resources for high-need kids, of which there are tons, leaving nothing but scraps for the well-prepared and talented kids.

Try to keep up, sweetie.


So high-need kids aren’t “talented”? Nice. You should stop digging.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 22:44     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will read the whole book while the regular class reads excerpts. It’s all relative. Intensified compared to the remedial (“regular”) class? Yes. But hardly an honors class. If you want rigor, you’ll need to go private.


My kid was at Swanson in 7th grade before the intensified classes were offered (now a rising 9th grader so 8th grade she took intensified classes) and this isn't true. They read entire books in 7th grade.

Just throwing in some facts if it helps.


I think that’s their point — that the “intensified” classes are just regular classes, and that the regular classes are actually remedial courses.


So you're saying that because APS now offers intensified classes, the regular classes they no longer read books? So there is no intensified at all, it's that APS renamed regular classes intensified and regular classes were dumbed down. I would ask APS or an actual teacher and not listen to people on this board personally. I have just seen over and over that people misrepresent the homework and test retake policies and portray they do nothing at school.


There’s been a sharp increase in kids who can’t handle grade level material and they have to put them somewhere. Intensified classes are for kids who can handle grade level work. Don’t fool yourself thinking it’s honors though.


Intensified classes were just added back to middle school this past school year due to direct pressure from the gifted and talented crowd, or whatever it's called now. So if APS pulled a fast one and intensified are just the regular classes and the regular classes are dumbed down, sincerely go to a School Board member and say something.


What’s the point? Won’t change anything. Equity is the name of the game. Don’t kid yourself thinking they care about the talented kids.


You’re saying that “equity” means kids aren’t talented? GTFO.


No, I’m saying that APS uses most of its resources for high-need kids, of which there are tons, leaving nothing but scraps for the well-prepared and talented kids.

Try to keep up, sweetie.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 21:46     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will read the whole book while the regular class reads excerpts. It’s all relative. Intensified compared to the remedial (“regular”) class? Yes. But hardly an honors class. If you want rigor, you’ll need to go private.


My kid was at Swanson in 7th grade before the intensified classes were offered (now a rising 9th grader so 8th grade she took intensified classes) and this isn't true. They read entire books in 7th grade.

Just throwing in some facts if it helps.


I think that’s their point — that the “intensified” classes are just regular classes, and that the regular classes are actually remedial courses.


So you're saying that because APS now offers intensified classes, the regular classes they no longer read books? So there is no intensified at all, it's that APS renamed regular classes intensified and regular classes were dumbed down. I would ask APS or an actual teacher and not listen to people on this board personally. I have just seen over and over that people misrepresent the homework and test retake policies and portray they do nothing at school.


There’s been a sharp increase in kids who can’t handle grade level material and they have to put them somewhere. Intensified classes are for kids who can handle grade level work. Don’t fool yourself thinking it’s honors though.


Intensified classes were just added back to middle school this past school year due to direct pressure from the gifted and talented crowd, or whatever it's called now. So if APS pulled a fast one and intensified are just the regular classes and the regular classes are dumbed down, sincerely go to a School Board member and say something.


What’s the point? Won’t change anything. Equity is the name of the game. Don’t kid yourself thinking they care about the talented kids.


You’re saying that “equity” means kids aren’t talented? GTFO.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 21:26     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will read the whole book while the regular class reads excerpts. It’s all relative. Intensified compared to the remedial (“regular”) class? Yes. But hardly an honors class. If you want rigor, you’ll need to go private.


My kid was at Swanson in 7th grade before the intensified classes were offered (now a rising 9th grader so 8th grade she took intensified classes) and this isn't true. They read entire books in 7th grade.

Just throwing in some facts if it helps.


I think that’s their point — that the “intensified” classes are just regular classes, and that the regular classes are actually remedial courses.


So you're saying that because APS now offers intensified classes, the regular classes they no longer read books? So there is no intensified at all, it's that APS renamed regular classes intensified and regular classes were dumbed down. I would ask APS or an actual teacher and not listen to people on this board personally. I have just seen over and over that people misrepresent the homework and test retake policies and portray they do nothing at school.


There’s been a sharp increase in kids who can’t handle grade level material and they have to put them somewhere. Intensified classes are for kids who can handle grade level work. Don’t fool yourself thinking it’s honors though.


Intensified classes were just added back to middle school this past school year due to direct pressure from the gifted and talented crowd, or whatever it's called now. So if APS pulled a fast one and intensified are just the regular classes and the regular classes are dumbed down, sincerely go to a School Board member and say something.


What’s the point? Won’t change anything. Equity is the name of the game. Don’t kid yourself thinking they care about the talented kids.


APS has been pretty responsive to parent concerns. Equity was the main concern for parents a few years ago. And now there is pushback, so the pendulum is swinging back towards more bespoke programs for gifted students. This is happening in public school districts in liberal suburban areas all across the country. Nothing terribly shocking here.


Not sure about “bespoke programs”, but I do agree that the pendulum will swing back. Just look at the state of current public education…how can it not? I hope it happens sooner rather than later.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 21:23     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will read the whole book while the regular class reads excerpts. It’s all relative. Intensified compared to the remedial (“regular”) class? Yes. But hardly an honors class. If you want rigor, you’ll need to go private.


My kid was at Swanson in 7th grade before the intensified classes were offered (now a rising 9th grader so 8th grade she took intensified classes) and this isn't true. They read entire books in 7th grade.

Just throwing in some facts if it helps.


I think that’s their point — that the “intensified” classes are just regular classes, and that the regular classes are actually remedial courses.


So you're saying that because APS now offers intensified classes, the regular classes they no longer read books? So there is no intensified at all, it's that APS renamed regular classes intensified and regular classes were dumbed down. I would ask APS or an actual teacher and not listen to people on this board personally. I have just seen over and over that people misrepresent the homework and test retake policies and portray they do nothing at school.


There’s been a sharp increase in kids who can’t handle grade level material and they have to put them somewhere. Intensified classes are for kids who can handle grade level work. Don’t fool yourself thinking it’s honors though.


Intensified classes were just added back to middle school this past school year due to direct pressure from the gifted and talented crowd, or whatever it's called now. So if APS pulled a fast one and intensified are just the regular classes and the regular classes are dumbed down, sincerely go to a School Board member and say something.


What’s the point? Won’t change anything. Equity is the name of the game. Don’t kid yourself thinking they care about the talented kids.


APS has been pretty responsive to parent concerns. Equity was the main concern for parents a few years ago. And now there is pushback, so the pendulum is swinging back towards more bespoke programs for gifted students. This is happening in public school districts in liberal suburban areas all across the country. Nothing terribly shocking here.


lol SURE 😆


Then tell me why my “gifted” (meaning above average) kid gets an extra worksheet. And why all gifted enrichment must be available for all students.

Tell me moooooore about this bespoke education our kids are getting.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 21:22     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will read the whole book while the regular class reads excerpts. It’s all relative. Intensified compared to the remedial (“regular”) class? Yes. But hardly an honors class. If you want rigor, you’ll need to go private.


My kid was at Swanson in 7th grade before the intensified classes were offered (now a rising 9th grader so 8th grade she took intensified classes) and this isn't true. They read entire books in 7th grade.

Just throwing in some facts if it helps.


I think that’s their point — that the “intensified” classes are just regular classes, and that the regular classes are actually remedial courses.


So you're saying that because APS now offers intensified classes, the regular classes they no longer read books? So there is no intensified at all, it's that APS renamed regular classes intensified and regular classes were dumbed down. I would ask APS or an actual teacher and not listen to people on this board personally. I have just seen over and over that people misrepresent the homework and test retake policies and portray they do nothing at school.


There’s been a sharp increase in kids who can’t handle grade level material and they have to put them somewhere. Intensified classes are for kids who can handle grade level work. Don’t fool yourself thinking it’s honors though.


Intensified classes were just added back to middle school this past school year due to direct pressure from the gifted and talented crowd, or whatever it's called now. So if APS pulled a fast one and intensified are just the regular classes and the regular classes are dumbed down, sincerely go to a School Board member and say something.


What’s the point? Won’t change anything. Equity is the name of the game. Don’t kid yourself thinking they care about the talented kids.


APS has been pretty responsive to parent concerns. Equity was the main concern for parents a few years ago. And now there is pushback, so the pendulum is swinging back towards more bespoke programs for gifted students. This is happening in public school districts in liberal suburban areas all across the country. Nothing terribly shocking here.


lol SURE 😆
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 21:12     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will read the whole book while the regular class reads excerpts. It’s all relative. Intensified compared to the remedial (“regular”) class? Yes. But hardly an honors class. If you want rigor, you’ll need to go private.


My kid was at Swanson in 7th grade before the intensified classes were offered (now a rising 9th grader so 8th grade she took intensified classes) and this isn't true. They read entire books in 7th grade.

Just throwing in some facts if it helps.


I think that’s their point — that the “intensified” classes are just regular classes, and that the regular classes are actually remedial courses.


So you're saying that because APS now offers intensified classes, the regular classes they no longer read books? So there is no intensified at all, it's that APS renamed regular classes intensified and regular classes were dumbed down. I would ask APS or an actual teacher and not listen to people on this board personally. I have just seen over and over that people misrepresent the homework and test retake policies and portray they do nothing at school.


There’s been a sharp increase in kids who can’t handle grade level material and they have to put them somewhere. Intensified classes are for kids who can handle grade level work. Don’t fool yourself thinking it’s honors though.


Intensified classes were just added back to middle school this past school year due to direct pressure from the gifted and talented crowd, or whatever it's called now. So if APS pulled a fast one and intensified are just the regular classes and the regular classes are dumbed down, sincerely go to a School Board member and say something.


What’s the point? Won’t change anything. Equity is the name of the game. Don’t kid yourself thinking they care about the talented kids.


APS has been pretty responsive to parent concerns. Equity was the main concern for parents a few years ago. And now there is pushback, so the pendulum is swinging back towards more bespoke programs for gifted students. This is happening in public school districts in liberal suburban areas all across the country. Nothing terribly shocking here.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2024 20:33     Subject: 7th grade intensified-APS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your kid will read the whole book while the regular class reads excerpts. It’s all relative. Intensified compared to the remedial (“regular”) class? Yes. But hardly an honors class. If you want rigor, you’ll need to go private.


My kid was at Swanson in 7th grade before the intensified classes were offered (now a rising 9th grader so 8th grade she took intensified classes) and this isn't true. They read entire books in 7th grade.

Just throwing in some facts if it helps.


I think that’s their point — that the “intensified” classes are just regular classes, and that the regular classes are actually remedial courses.


So you're saying that because APS now offers intensified classes, the regular classes they no longer read books? So there is no intensified at all, it's that APS renamed regular classes intensified and regular classes were dumbed down. I would ask APS or an actual teacher and not listen to people on this board personally. I have just seen over and over that people misrepresent the homework and test retake policies and portray they do nothing at school.


There’s been a sharp increase in kids who can’t handle grade level material and they have to put them somewhere. Intensified classes are for kids who can handle grade level work. Don’t fool yourself thinking it’s honors though.


Intensified classes were just added back to middle school this past school year due to direct pressure from the gifted and talented crowd, or whatever it's called now. So if APS pulled a fast one and intensified are just the regular classes and the regular classes are dumbed down, sincerely go to a School Board member and say something.


What’s the point? Won’t change anything. Equity is the name of the game. Don’t kid yourself thinking they care about the talented kids.