Anonymous
Post 06/11/2024 03:17     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Why would teachers even have time cards if we are salaried? Further, why would we actively be instructed to fill them out untruthfully?
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2024 21:42     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Anonymous wrote:Such as Paraeducators?:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/60/1185564.page

Yes. They are hourly and must report timecards accurately.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2024 20:06     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Anonymous
Post 06/10/2024 15:52     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Anonymous wrote:Can someone find out why they make us fraud our yellow time sheets by filling 40 hours per week. Why are we not even allowed to write in the true times that we arrive and leave. I hate writing in fake data to appease some admin tyrant.

You're salaried, right? Doesn't really matter. For SEIU employees, that would be a wage and hours crime.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2024 14:24     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Can someone find out why they make us fraud our yellow time sheets by filling 40 hours per week. Why are we not even allowed to write in the true times that we arrive and leave. I hate writing in fake data to appease some admin tyrant.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2024 13:09     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

*^Will they attend without getting involuntarily transferred?
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2024 13:08     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Will Principals, Assistant Principals be out today at the rally Veterans Plaza Silver Spring 4:30p?
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2024 12:26     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Anonymous wrote:Our school needed a dedicated left turn light at the major intersection turning into our neighborhood school. It took a lot of advocacy from both school leadership as well as teachers and parents. The Montgomery County department of transportation was very reluctant to work with us and It took a lot of advocacy from different people to get them to come out and study the problem at the appropriate time (ie when we had huge backups and traffic because school buses could not safely make left turns into the neighborhood). I believe we started the advocacy process in like 2019 and then the light was installed until 2024 I think.


That long? Current students will have promoted by then. Government.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2024 01:07     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Our school needed a dedicated left turn light at the major intersection turning into our neighborhood school. It took a lot of advocacy from both school leadership as well as teachers and parents. The Montgomery County department of transportation was very reluctant to work with us and It took a lot of advocacy from different people to get them to come out and study the problem at the appropriate time (ie when we had huge backups and traffic because school buses could not safely make left turns into the neighborhood). I believe we started the advocacy process in like 2019 and then the light was installed until 2024 I think.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2024 20:30     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Anonymous wrote:If a Principal is seen at a get out the vote call center, that is not allowed? Not saying it has happened, before y'all say anything. Can't he participate as a private citizen??

MCPS employees have been routinely castigated - and worse - for what they post as "private citizens".
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2024 17:05     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

If a Principal is seen at a get out the vote call center, that is not allowed? Not saying it has happened, before y'all say anything. Can't he participate as a private citizen??
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2024 15:27     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Anonymous wrote:Conflicting information..some saying no, others yes with examples of how a Principal advocated. So, answer must be yes but a Principal should expect to be involuntarily transferred?


No. You are conflating a couple of issues. Principals are welcome to advocate on non-political issues, to their elected officials. So, a principal testifying in front of the County council regarding a safety issue is normal.

What the other PP described was a principal using a public forum to criticize their own bosses. Well that may be morally and legally fine, I'm not terribly surprised that there were professional ramifications just as there would be professional ramifications for any of us if we criticized our own employers in public.

But talking about how the County council has not prioritized putting in a stop sign in front of a school is not criticizing your own supervisors, it is acting in your authority as a School employee to ask for attention from elected officials.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2024 15:17     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Conflicting information..some saying no, others yes with examples of how a Principal advocated. So, answer must be yes but a Principal should expect to be involuntarily transferred?
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2024 14:45     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Anonymous wrote:Are they ALLOWED to advocate to make changes to the neighborhood in which the MCPS school where they work is located, i.e. contact a County Representative or State Delegate or State Senator, MD DOT, MCDOT to bring a dangerous intersection that is used to cross by students of their school? Is the PTSA allowed to advocate? A very annoying PTSA President said they can not get involved in political "stuff." It is not political, it is a safety thing but that PTSA President thinks if involving county and state elected officials, it is political. Please provide any insights you may have.


Yes, they are allowed. And yes, they do (sometimes). For example, the Fox Chapel ES principal and PTSA advocated for a sidewalk: https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/dot-dte/Resources/Files/FoxChapel/FoxChapel_Recommendations.pdf see pp. 8 (for the PTA president) and 11 (for the principal)
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2024 14:44     Subject: Are Principals, Assistant Principals ALLOWED to advocate?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are they ALLOWED to advocate to make changes to the neighborhood in which the MCPS school where they work is located, i.e. contact a County Representative or State Delegate or State Senator, MD DOT, MCDOT to bring a dangerous intersection that is used to cross by students of their school? Is the PTSA allowed to advocate? A very annoying PTSA President said they can not get involved in political "stuff." It is not political, it is a safety thing but that PTSA President thinks if involving county and state elected officials, it is political. Please provide any insights you may have.


My kid's elementary principal advocated and testified about overcrowding and why a new school was needed to alleviate the problem. She was involuntarily transferred the next year.


Not surprising that the school district took umbrage at your principal testifying. They have principal meetings at which they can speak with administrators.

I have seen principals come with parents to public meetings, such as the county council meetings, where his school's parents testified. I appreciated his supporting these parents, who were immigrant parents, in their advocacy. No one (that I know) has a problem with that.