Anonymous wrote:Some refs will get intimidated and side with the coach that yells the loudest.
Anonymous wrote:My son is a ref. He said that people yelling at him does not influence his calls, but that one time, at halftime, a parent talked to him calmly and said he felt my son was failing to call fouls on smaller players and only calling them on bigger ones. Since the guy was calm, my son listened and agreed.
Anonymous wrote:Agree with the poster saying it is excusable when you see safety becoming an issue. The number one job of a youth ref is to protect the players. My son has received two yellow cards for talking back to a ref. Both times were speaking up for his teammates who were on the receiving end of hard, dirty fouls with no consequence. While his choice of words may not have been the best, I had no issue with him speaking up to defend his teammates' safety. A missed offsides or line call is not something to yell about from the stands or the pitch.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t get it. Are the parents/players/coaches hoping to notify the ref of a rule they may be unaware of? Hoping the ref becomes more lenient to your team on future calls? Trying to distract them from reffing the game? Just generally need a target to take out frustration?
I watch people shouting at refs and I seriously don’t understand what good they can think might possibly come of it. I feel like I’m missing something here.
this is the stupidest question i've read on these boards and that's saying something
Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t get it. Are the parents/players/coaches hoping to notify the ref of a rule they may be unaware of? Hoping the ref becomes more lenient to your team on future calls? Trying to distract them from reffing the game? Just generally need a target to take out frustration?
I watch people shouting at refs and I seriously don’t understand what good they can think might possibly come of it. I feel like I’m missing something here.
Anonymous wrote:I’m both a parent and a NCSL coach, and have reffed in the past. A few thoughts.
- The field is often loud, the distances can be far, and you’re not allowed to enter the field to get close to the ref. You often have to yell to communicate.
- Yelling about calls happens in virtually every sport, at every level. Ever watch a basketball or football game?
- I never yell about throw ins. That’s stupid.
-Yelling should be about a call, and should never include personal attacks.
- Refs miss things all the time, or are unsure. They’re human, and others often have angles the ref doesn’t have. If they see a shot in the box and it hits off an arm, but they’re not sure whose arm, if one coach is yelling for a handball and the other is not, that can influence them.
- Especially at uLittle, I can’t count how many times a ref does not know or apply the rules correctly. Build out line is always the worst, but I have had refs forget there is no offside before the build out line (and call it just past midfield), forget keepers can’t punt, not stop the game after the ball hit someone in the head, etc.
- I’ve also seen some biased behavior (intentional or otherwise), and am going to call it out. One ref at uLittle was letting one team retake bad throws, but their opponent had to turn the ball over every time it happened to them. I had a game the other day where there were multiple handballs in the box by one team, with the ball hitting a defenders forearm which was above their shoulder in each case. Never called. End of game, a midfielder passes back to my defender in our own box. Defender goes to play the ball, it hits a bump in the grass and caroms off the top of her foot into her bicep, which is at maybe a ten degree angle to her torso (ie a natural one). PK that tied the game. You can bet I yelled.
Anonymous wrote:I’m both a parent and a NCSL coach, and have reffed in the past. A few thoughts.
- The field is often loud, the distances can be far, and you’re not allowed to enter the field to get close to the ref. You often have to yell to communicate.
- Yelling about calls happens in virtually every sport, at every level. Ever watch a basketball or football game?
- I never yell about throw ins. That’s stupid.
-Yelling should be about a call, and should never include personal attacks.
- Refs miss things all the time, or are unsure. They’re human, and others often have angles the ref doesn’t have. If they see a shot in the box and it hits off an arm, but they’re not sure whose arm, if one coach is yelling for a handball and the other is not, that can influence them.
- Especially at uLittle, I can’t count how many times a ref does not know or apply the rules correctly. Build out line is always the worst, but I have had refs forget there is no offside before the build out line (and call it just past midfield), forget keepers can’t punt, not stop the game after the ball hit someone in the head, etc.
- I’ve also seen some biased behavior (intentional or otherwise), and am going to call it out. One ref at uLittle was letting one team retake bad throws, but their opponent had to turn the ball over every time it happened to them. I had a game the other day where there were multiple handballs in the box by one team, with the ball hitting a defenders forearm which was above their shoulder in each case. Never called. End of game, a midfielder passes back to my defender in our own box. Defender goes to play the ball, it hits a bump in the grass and caroms off the top of her foot into her bicep, which is at maybe a ten degree angle to her torso (ie a natural one). PK that tied the game. You can bet I yelled.
Anonymous wrote:The only time it's ever seemed justified to me (and to be clear, I'm not the one yelling) is when a ref is not calling any fouls and the game starts to get out of hand. I've seen games where things escalate and it starts to get dangerous, kids can get injured.
Other than that, it's b.s..