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Anonymous wrote:Hamilton is super woke and obnoxious if your DC doesn't like that.

Hamilton is not woke in today’s context. Very preppy, great alumni network, fairly happy student population. Can’t go wrong with either

Do you have a student they are? My student tells me there are certainly very preppy people there, but they’re also a lot of people with as she would say purple hair. There’s a very artsy/ crunchy population. The a cappella groups and theater is big

Times have changed. It may be more “woke” than before, but among LACs, I would not consider it on the extreme side. It’s probably in the middle for NESCAC in terms of campus politics.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamilton is super woke and obnoxious if your DC doesn't like that.

Hamilton is not woke in today’s context. Very preppy, great alumni network, fairly happy student population. Can’t go wrong with either

Do you have a student they are? My student tells me there are certainly very preppy people there, but they’re also a lot of people with as she would say purple hair. There’s a very artsy/ crunchy population. The a cappella groups and theater is big

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Anonymous wrote:Carleton possibly better for future PhDs?

Carleton is ranked 6th for PhD production. Hamilton not in top 50.

Carleton also more STEMy: about 50% vs 30%.

https://www.swarthmore.edu/institutional-effectiveness-research-assessment/doctorates-awarded

Carleton is definitely more impressive with PhD careers.

Anonymous wrote:Hamilton is super woke and obnoxious if your DC doesn't like that.

Hamilton is not woke in today’s context. Very preppy, great alumni network, fairly happy student population. Can’t go wrong with either

Carlton is more academic as measured by percentage of kids who pursue PhDs.

Anonymous wrote:Carleton possibly better for future PhDs?

Carleton is ranked 6th for PhD production. Hamilton not in top 50.

Carleton also more STEMy: about 50% vs 30%.

Anonymous wrote:Carleton and Hamilton seem pretty different. I would have thought Carleton is much more intellectual

I would say Carleton is more uniformly intellectual, but intellectual kids will have no trouble finding their tribe at Hamilton.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamilton is super woke and obnoxious if your DC doesn't like that.

So is Carlton.

Not our experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamilton is super woke and obnoxious if your DC doesn't like that.

This is why I prefer LACs like Colgate and Bucknell. You get a world class liberal arts education, you have bountiful career opportunities right out of college with just a bachelor's degree (Wall Street, consulting, even engineering in the case of Bucknell) and best of all you don't have to deal with in your face wokeness everywhere you turn.

Guess what? Op is not asking that lol

Although OP (me) is kind of interested in the topic. I am wondering if Colgate is significantly better than Hamilton for (business oriented) career purposes. I view Hamilton as the slightly better academic school, and it also seems to have Wall St. connections.

Is Hamilton really all that woke in the scheme of things?

Schools really have a different vibe. I would never describe Hamilton as woke. That is actually the last word I would use to describe it. It is definitely seems to feel more academically serious with some interesting and smart students and there is not the culture of Greek life and partying that pervades at Colgate Hamilton has a better location in that it’s 10 minutes to new Hartford and 20 minutes to Utica, Hamilton has many Econ majors who end up on Wall Street If that’s what your student is looking for. A very good alumni network

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Anonymous wrote:Hamilton is super woke and obnoxious if your DC doesn't like that.

This is why I prefer LACs like Colgate and Bucknell. You get a world class liberal arts education, you have bountiful career opportunities right out of college with just a bachelor's degree (Wall Street, consulting, even engineering in the case of Bucknell) and best of all you don't have to deal with in your face wokeness everywhere you turn.

Guess what? Op is not asking that lol

Although OP (me) is kind of interested in the topic. I am wondering if Colgate is significantly better than Hamilton for (business oriented) career purposes. I view Hamilton as the slightly better academic school, and it also seems to have Wall St. connections.

Is Hamilton really all that woke in the scheme of things?

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Anonymous wrote:Hamilton is super woke and obnoxious if your DC doesn't like that.

This is why I prefer LACs like Colgate and Bucknell. You get a world class liberal arts education, you have bountiful career opportunities right out of college with just a bachelor's degree (Wall Street, consulting, even engineering in the case of Bucknell) and best of all you don't have to deal with in your face wokeness everywhere you turn.

Guess what? Op is not asking that lol

Carleton and Hamilton seem pretty different. I would have thought Carleton is much more intellectual

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Anonymous wrote:Hamilton is super woke and obnoxious if your DC doesn't like that.

This is why I prefer LACs like Colgate and Bucknell. You get a world class liberal arts education, you have bountiful career opportunities right out of college with just a bachelor's degree (Wall Street, consulting, even engineering in the case of Bucknell) and best of all you don't have to deal with in your face wokeness everywhere you turn.

Are you applying or enrolled? If not, how are you "dealing" with this?

This is something our DCs never raise. Wonder why.

Anonymous wrote:Hamilton is super woke and obnoxious if your DC doesn't like that.

This is why I prefer LACs like Colgate and Bucknell. You get a world class liberal arts education, you have bountiful career opportunities right out of college with just a bachelor's degree (Wall Street, consulting, even engineering in the case of Bucknell) and best of all you don't have to deal with in your face wokeness everywhere you turn.

Anonymous wrote:The approaches to curriculum are very different. That’s one starting point. Carleton definitely came across as more structured (and perhaps a bit rigid, for lack of a better word, in some ways) than Hamilton.
When we visited Hamilton, the students on the tour were very athletic and affluent looking.

Carleton is on a trimester system and has its own study abroad programs.

Hamilton is on a hill and you have go down it to get to the little town.

Both are freezing much of the year.

FWIW, Carleton's requirement distributional requirements have been easy for my student to meet (and not a big deal when it comes to course planning and registration). They work fine for a student curious to try out different fields (something traditionally part of the liberal arts college experience). Here's one student's explanation: https://www.carleton.edu/admissions/blog/a-guide-to-carletons-graduation-requirements/

My student has been extremely happy at Carleton. Excellent academics and a kind and supportive campus community. We've also loved getting to visit Northfield, which is a lovely small town. Our student's one complaint might be that winters haven't been quite as cold and snowy as they might have been. (Climate change?) But there have still been chances to cross country ski in the arb and get that winter experience.