Anonymous
06/06/2024 12:57
Subject: School tour
Anonymous wrote:I recently toured our zoned public elementary school. I asked about AAP and the tour person made it sound as though it’s not something she recommends as the child would have to go to haycock which is very big. It puts extra pressure on the child etc. I got anti aap vibes from her.
My child is going to an AAP center this fall as 3rd grader. FCPS data shows that the center school has double the students as my base school. Both school has the same sized gym, cafeteria and playground, so I can imagine the stress of double student population placed on the school.
It sounds like the AAP is against Haycock instead of against AAP program. Don't know your base school but isn't most base schools have local AAP as well?
Anonymous
06/06/2024 11:51
Subject: School tour
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh come on, a lot of people hated G&T before they hated AAP, back when "politically correct" was the old "woke."
These ideas have all been recycled for decades. Why did Jay Matthews used to write anti-TJ articles in the Post in the '90s, after all, except that gifted programs are a lightening rod for controversy and have been for a long time.
Pretending all this is new is silly. It's merely a new front in a decades old war.
True.
Originally it was merely democrats who launched the “culture war.”
They saw benefits to their party by emphasizing “identity politics,” based on race and SES.
Later, identity politics became the obsession for first “liberals” then, “progressives.”
Currently, progressives have turned much harder to the left with “woke” politics, and they have been fairly successful with pushing DEI into mainstream society.
G&T, GATE, AAP and other merit-based programs have become targets for progressives.
NYC eliminated their G&T program, as did Seattle.
California banned the teaching of Algebra prior to 9th grade.
The racial disparity at the top schools in NYC was aggravated by the elimination of GT programs. The GT pipeline was the primary conduit for students at those top schools.
That is the irony here:
It was the left-driven push for “diversity, equity, and inclusion” (DEI) which lead to NYC and Seattle (plus California) to eliminate most gifted and talented courses, but:
- does anyone seriously believe the parents of G&T kids will just sit back and do nothing?
Parents who are high SES will just put kids in private; lower SES will just home-school or move somewhere else.
DEI in these cases will lead directly to LESS diversity among the student population left behind in these public schools.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 15:02
Subject: School tour
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Diversity, equity, and inclusion.
AAP needs to be banned entirely.
And that is how a lot of equity focused teachers and administrators feel.
They no longer see giftedness as a special learning requirement, they see it as an extension of racism.
So if you don’t teach to the lowest common denominator, you’re racist?
Or you are perpetuating a racist system.
The system for aap isn’t racist. If it was, Asians wouldn’t do as well or better than whites.
It's a special type a racism that elevates asians ahead of whites just to make the blacks and hispanics feel bad.
Hahaha, it's a special type of racism for white people to blame Asians for racism against others.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 15:01
Subject: School tour
What school gives out tours?
Anonymous
06/04/2024 14:54
Subject: School tour
Anonymous wrote:I recently toured our zoned public elementary school. I asked about AAP and the tour person made it sound as though it’s not something she recommends as the child would have to go to haycock which is very big. It puts extra pressure on the child etc. I got anti aap vibes from her.
Shouldn’t aap be something they tout during the tour as an opportunity for children to accelerate their learning?
I got the same vibe from the principal at Hunt Valley. They do not have a local level 4 there, and she said to all the parents at the AAP parent information meeting something along the lines of “don’t get too worked up about AAP, kids don’t really need it.” A very strange attitude at a meeting specifically on that subject.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 14:43
Subject: School tour
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh come on, a lot of people hated G&T before they hated AAP, back when "politically correct" was the old "woke."
These ideas have all been recycled for decades. Why did Jay Matthews used to write anti-TJ articles in the Post in the '90s, after all, except that gifted programs are a lightening rod for controversy and have been for a long time.
Pretending all this is new is silly. It's merely a new front in a decades old war.
True.
Originally it was merely democrats who launched the “culture war.”
They saw benefits to their party by emphasizing “identity politics,” based on race and SES.
Later, identity politics became the obsession for first “liberals” then, “progressives.”
Currently, progressives have turned much harder to the left with “woke” politics, and they have been fairly successful with pushing DEI into mainstream society.
G&T, GATE, AAP and other merit-based programs have become targets for progressives.
NYC eliminated their G&T program, as did Seattle.
California banned the teaching of Algebra prior to 9th grade.
The racial disparity at the top schools in NYC was aggravated by the elimination of GT programs. The GT pipeline was the primary conduit for students at those top schools.
OK PPs. Turns out not everything is about politics. Really. Take it to the Politics forum if that's all you have to talk about.
Wait - the culture war based on race and SES is not political?
Seriously?? Identity politics are not real?? OMG.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 14:32
Subject: School tour
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Diversity, equity, and inclusion.
AAP needs to be banned entirely.
And that is how a lot of equity focused teachers and administrators feel.
They no longer see giftedness as a special learning requirement, they see it as an extension of racism.
So if you don’t teach to the lowest common denominator, you’re racist?
Or you are perpetuating a racist system.
The system for aap isn’t racist. If it was, Asians wouldn’t do as well or better than whites.
It's a special type a racism that elevates asians ahead of whites just to make the blacks and hispanics feel bad.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 13:25
Subject: School tour
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Diversity, equity, and inclusion.
AAP needs to be banned entirely.
And that is how a lot of equity focused teachers and administrators feel.
They no longer see giftedness as a special learning requirement, they see it as an extension of racism.
So if you don’t teach to the lowest common denominator, you’re racist?
Or you are perpetuating a racist system.
The system for aap isn’t racist. If it was, Asians wouldn’t do as well or better than whites.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 12:21
Subject: School tour
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh come on, a lot of people hated G&T before they hated AAP, back when "politically correct" was the old "woke."
These ideas have all been recycled for decades. Why did Jay Matthews used to write anti-TJ articles in the Post in the '90s, after all, except that gifted programs are a lightening rod for controversy and have been for a long time.
Pretending all this is new is silly. It's merely a new front in a decades old war.
True.
Originally it was merely democrats who launched the “culture war.”
They saw benefits to their party by emphasizing “identity politics,” based on race and SES.
Later, identity politics became the obsession for first “liberals” then, “progressives.”
Currently, progressives have turned much harder to the left with “woke” politics, and they have been fairly successful with pushing DEI into mainstream society.
G&T, GATE, AAP and other merit-based programs have become targets for progressives.
NYC eliminated their G&T program, as did Seattle.
California banned the teaching of Algebra prior to 9th grade.
The racial disparity at the top schools in NYC was aggravated by the elimination of GT programs. The GT pipeline was the primary conduit for students at those top schools.
OK PPs. Turns out not everything is about politics. Really. Take it to the Politics forum if that's all you have to talk about.
How was my post political? Perhaps the one i was responding to was but mine was about the benefit of GT programs in identifying and developing academic talent in under-served communities.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 11:15
Subject: School tour
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh come on, a lot of people hated G&T before they hated AAP, back when "politically correct" was the old "woke."
These ideas have all been recycled for decades. Why did Jay Matthews used to write anti-TJ articles in the Post in the '90s, after all, except that gifted programs are a lightening rod for controversy and have been for a long time.
Pretending all this is new is silly. It's merely a new front in a decades old war.
True.
Originally it was merely democrats who launched the “culture war.”
They saw benefits to their party by emphasizing “identity politics,” based on race and SES.
Later, identity politics became the obsession for first “liberals” then, “progressives.”
Currently, progressives have turned much harder to the left with “woke” politics, and they have been fairly successful with pushing DEI into mainstream society.
G&T, GATE, AAP and other merit-based programs have become targets for progressives.
NYC eliminated their G&T program, as did Seattle.
California banned the teaching of Algebra prior to 9th grade.
The racial disparity at the top schools in NYC was aggravated by the elimination of GT programs. The GT pipeline was the primary conduit for students at those top schools.
OK PPs. Turns out not everything is about politics. Really. Take it to the Politics forum if that's all you have to talk about.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 11:07
Subject: School tour
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh come on, a lot of people hated G&T before they hated AAP, back when "politically correct" was the old "woke."
These ideas have all been recycled for decades. Why did Jay Matthews used to write anti-TJ articles in the Post in the '90s, after all, except that gifted programs are a lightening rod for controversy and have been for a long time.
Pretending all this is new is silly. It's merely a new front in a decades old war.
True.
Originally it was merely democrats who launched the “culture war.”
They saw benefits to their party by emphasizing “identity politics,” based on race and SES.
Later, identity politics became the obsession for first “liberals” then, “progressives.”
Currently, progressives have turned much harder to the left with “woke” politics, and they have been fairly successful with pushing DEI into mainstream society.
G&T, GATE, AAP and other merit-based programs have become targets for progressives.
NYC eliminated their G&T program, as did Seattle.
California banned the teaching of Algebra prior to 9th grade.
The racial disparity at the top schools in NYC was aggravated by the elimination of GT programs. The GT pipeline was the primary conduit for students at those top schools.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 09:33
Subject: School tour
Anonymous wrote:Oh come on, a lot of people hated G&T before they hated AAP, back when "politically correct" was the old "woke."
These ideas have all been recycled for decades. Why did Jay Matthews used to write anti-TJ articles in the Post in the '90s, after all, except that gifted programs are a lightening rod for controversy and have been for a long time.
Pretending all this is new is silly. It's merely a new front in a decades old war.
True.
Originally it was merely democrats who launched the “culture war.”
They saw benefits to their party by emphasizing “identity politics,” based on race and SES.
Later, identity politics became the obsession for first “liberals” then, “progressives.”
Currently, progressives have turned much harder to the left with “woke” politics, and they have been fairly successful with pushing DEI into mainstream society.
G&T, GATE, AAP and other merit-based programs have become targets for progressives.
NYC eliminated their G&T program, as did Seattle.
California banned the teaching of Algebra prior to 9th grade.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 13:22
Subject: School tour
Oh come on, a lot of people hated G&T before they hated AAP, back when "politically correct" was the old "woke."
These ideas have all been recycled for decades. Why did Jay Matthews used to write anti-TJ articles in the Post in the '90s, after all, except that gifted programs are a lightening rod for controversy and have been for a long time.
Pretending all this is new is silly. It's merely a new front in a decades old war.
These ideas have all been recycled for decades. Why did Jay Matthews used to write anti-TJ articles in the Post in the '90s, after all, except that gifted programs are a lightening rod for controversy and have been for a long time.
Pretending all this is new is silly. It's merely a new front in a decades old war.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 11:15
Subject: School tour
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Diversity, equity, and inclusion.
AAP needs to be banned entirely.
And that is how a lot of equity focused teachers and administrators feel.
They no longer see giftedness as a special learning requirement, they see it as an extension of racism.
So if you don’t teach to the lowest common denominator, you’re racist?
Or you are perpetuating a racist system.