Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:55     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:You understand that tuition rates have grown astronomically faster than wages since you were in college, right?


Of course I understand. We can easily afford to pay tuition. However, even if we couldn’t, I would encourage my children to apply and attend the best college possible.

I know many kids going to UVA and W&M could have gone to “better” schools. I’m sure this is more from public high schools, not private. If you are already paying 50k for high school tuition, paying 80k for college tuition probably would not be a factor in deciding where to go to college.


1. If you couldn't afford to pay, then why would you encourage your children to apply and attend the "best college possible"?

2. Your statement about a person paying $50K being able to pay $80K (and rising)(It's actually $90K now, generally) makes assumptions and is erroneous.

3. Yes, people pick publics and privates with merit aid over "better" brand-name schools because of money.


Dh and I want to HYP grad schools. I earned high six figures and Dh now earns seven figures. I don’t think it would have been possible without our education.


So you did not go to top undergrads? Maybe that is the plan for many kids - public undergrad and top grad schools.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:54     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
Anonymous wrote:My parents did not pay for my college or grad school. I never considered any public universities in state or out of state. I am from NY. I applied to schools I was interested in, got financial aid and graduated grad school with loans and paid it off pretty quickly. I worked in investment banking and private equity in NYC so it was fast.

I’m surprised at how many people choose state schools in VA and MD.

Are students that afraid of debt?

All these families are better off financially than my family was when I was going to college. The cost of college was not a factor for me. I just knew I would pay it back.


You are a moron.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:52     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
OP-you made $$ in IB, went to great schools. Are you really that dim? You can’t comprehend that a) most people will never make IB type of money and therefore 1) can’t pay off student debt quickly and 2) can’t shell out $$ for their kids to attend $$$ private schools? That’s why the whole debate of private vs public school results is not accurate. “Results” (where kids actually end up vs where they get in) are a product of parental SES more than anything.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:50     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
Anonymous wrote:I’m paying $50k for high school and I don’t want to pay $80k for college.


You should have saved the money to pay for the better school. Anyone who claims UMD is better than or the same as MIT is ignorant or lying.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:47     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You understand that tuition rates have grown astronomically faster than wages since you were in college, right?


Of course I understand. We can easily afford to pay tuition. However, even if we couldn’t, I would encourage my children to apply and attend the best college possible.

I know many kids going to UVA and W&M could have gone to “better” schools. I’m sure this is more from public high schools, not private. If you are already paying 50k for high school tuition, paying 80k for college tuition probably would not be a factor in deciding where to go to college.


1. If you couldn't afford to pay, then why would you encourage your children to apply and attend the "best college possible"?

2. Your statement about a person paying $50K being able to pay $80K (and rising)(It's actually $90K now, generally) makes assumptions and is erroneous.

3. Yes, people pick publics and privates with merit aid over "better" brand-name schools because of money.


Dh and I want to HYP grad schools. I earned high six figures and Dh now earns seven figures. I don’t think it would have been possible without our education.



You can't be serious? Do you know how many people make that much who went to unknown schools, or are entrepreneurs, or dropped out?


Or people that went to top private universities but still don’t get into careers where they make that much.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:45     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
It’s almost always about money.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:45     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You understand that tuition rates have grown astronomically faster than wages since you were in college, right?


Of course I understand. We can easily afford to pay tuition. However, even if we couldn’t, I would encourage my children to apply and attend the best college possible.

I know many kids going to UVA and W&M could have gone to “better” schools. I’m sure this is more from public high schools, not private. If you are already paying 50k for high school tuition, paying 80k for college tuition probably would not be a factor in deciding where to go to college.


1. If you couldn't afford to pay, then why would you encourage your children to apply and attend the "best college possible"?

2. Your statement about a person paying $50K being able to pay $80K (and rising)(It's actually $90K now, generally) makes assumptions and is erroneous.

3. Yes, people pick publics and privates with merit aid over "better" brand-name schools because of money.


Dh and I want to HYP grad schools. I earned high six figures and Dh now earns seven figures. I don’t think it would have been possible without our education.



You can't be serious? Do you know how many people make that much who went to unknown schools, or are entrepreneurs, or dropped out?
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:44     Subject: Re:Do many people pick publics because of money?
I grew up in the Bay Area -- most of my high school class who went to college went to a UC school or a Cal State school, other than maybe 10-20 percent who went to private colleges or universities. Even with the relative affluence of my hometown -- early-ish Silicon Valley, very UMC -- cost was absolutely a factor in college choice, particularly when the public schools were so strong and so affordable. Private school tuition has only skyrocketed since then. You better believe we will be looking at public. Since we live in DC, we are looking at OOS tuition (with DC TAG's help) everywhere, unfortunately.


Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:40     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I also think this is regional. I spent most of my childhood in NY and going to a SUNY was not really the default -- people applied to all kinds of public and private schools and then went to the best one.

Then I moved to NC in high school, and my classmates overwhelming went to public schools (and this was a much wealthier district). The top 10 percent of us went to UNC-Chapel Hill. At the time it was like $4,000 a year or something, and a much better education than any other college except a top 10. My Dad wouldn't even consider paying for another school.

I think UVA is a similar thought process. It think it's because UVA and UNC are really good schools.


I went to a public high school in a wealthy NYC suburb. I guess the students were more like the students at privates here where SLACs were popular. Many kids went to colleges in the northeast to places like Amherst, Swarthmore, Tufts, BC, Williams, etc in addition to Ivy plus Stanford and MIT. Those smaller SLACs don’t seem as popular here, definitely not at our public high school.


They are, but since every single college and uni is now much more selective than during your generation, fewer people apply, and even fewer get in.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:39     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
Anonymous wrote:My parents did not pay for my college or grad school. I never considered any public universities in state or out of state. I am from NY. I applied to schools I was interested in, got financial aid and graduated grad school with loans and paid it off pretty quickly. I worked in investment banking and private equity in NYC so it was fast.

I’m surprised at how many people choose state schools in VA and MD.

Are students that afraid of debt?

All these families are better off financially than my family was when I was going to college. The cost of college was not a factor for me. I just knew I would pay it back.


You are tone-deaf and ignorant, OP. Most professions will never, ever, create investment banking type wealth. Most people don't want that job, because we're all different with different skills and personalities. So for the MAJORITY of jobs requiring a college degree or graduate school, there is no point in paying more for a private university. The ROI just isn't there.

Snap out of your bubble.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:37     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
Anonymous wrote:I also think this is regional. I spent most of my childhood in NY and going to a SUNY was not really the default -- people applied to all kinds of public and private schools and then went to the best one.

Then I moved to NC in high school, and my classmates overwhelming went to public schools (and this was a much wealthier district). The top 10 percent of us went to UNC-Chapel Hill. At the time it was like $4,000 a year or something, and a much better education than any other college except a top 10. My Dad wouldn't even consider paying for another school.

I think UVA is a similar thought process. It think it's because UVA and UNC are really good schools.


I went to a public high school in a wealthy NYC suburb. I guess the students were more like the students at privates here where SLACs were popular. Many kids went to colleges in the northeast to places like Amherst, Swarthmore, Tufts, BC, Williams, etc in addition to Ivy plus Stanford and MIT. Those smaller SLACs don’t seem as popular here, definitely not at our public high school.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:36     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
Anonymous wrote:Because it’s a terrible waste of money. Particularly right now when you are basically paying to be indoctrinated by anti-semites and fund encampments for entitled brats who would not survive two days in Gaza under the “leadership” of the very people they are defending.


Not to side-track, but most people in the world are protesting the lack of proportional response (35K dead vs. 1.5K), not the fact there is a response (there should be). Do not confuse the braying fringe with the majority's concerns. This is a common mistake made during every single controversy: stupid people, or professional agitators, pay attention to those who scream the loudest and who have the most shocking slogans, and use it to further inflame the debate. It's divisive and creates hate and chaos. Do NOT contribute to it, PP.


Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:34     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
My kid is at UMD for STEM even though we could afford more. With scholarships it's costing 1/5th the amount of similarly ranked private schools.
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:33     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Virginia has some fantastic state schools. Why pay for private when you can get a better education, with a larger alumni network, at a public?


UVA is definitely better than SUNY.



+`1. UVA is no 24 best univirisites in the US. SUNY is no. 76
Anonymous
Post 05/21/2024 17:32     Subject: Do many people pick publics because of money?
I also think this is regional. I spent most of my childhood in NY and going to a SUNY was not really the default -- people applied to all kinds of public and private schools and then went to the best one.

Then I moved to NC in high school, and my classmates overwhelming went to public schools (and this was a much wealthier district). The top 10 percent of us went to UNC-Chapel Hill. At the time it was like $4,000 a year or something, and a much better education than any other college except a top 10. My Dad wouldn't even consider paying for another school.

I think UVA is a similar thought process. It think it's because UVA and UNC are really good schools.