Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:48     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Get a liberal arts degree (economics and something soft) from the highest ranked school you can.

Recruiting for finance, consulting, and corporate /strategy roles are much much easier if you are in English and economics major coming from Rice or Vanderbilt or Emory compared to CS at Purdue…..

Ask around people!!!


Unless you have good connections/networking, that will not help.

DS will graduate from an Ivy, commencement is today, and he is still looking for for a job, as most of his friends who don't have connections. Those with connections have good jobs.


Huh? Why wasn’t your kid networking? It’s a requirement in life…..
Social skills people.
Golf and tennis….
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:47     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Get a liberal arts degree (economics and something soft) from the highest ranked school you can.

Recruiting for finance, consulting, and corporate /strategy roles are much much easier if you are in English and economics major coming from Rice or Vanderbilt or Emory compared to CS at Purdue…..

Ask around people!!!


Unless you have good connections/networking, that will not help.

DS will graduate from an Ivy, commencement is today, and he is still looking for for a job, as most of his friends who don't have connections. Those with connections have good jobs.


Your kid had to join the clubs in schools and network network network….
Nothing lands in your lap.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:47     Subject: Re:Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are English majors in high demand?


Actually, yes. The future is bright for humanities majors.

For low paying jobs.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:46     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What market isn't saturated?

Also, this is why it is so hard to get admitted to a CS program -- they aren't expanding the seats to meet student demand unless there is market demand.

UMD CP actually halved the CS class, but I think that was due to too many students who are not ready for it being interested in it, and wanting to keep the classes more intimate. UMD is also developing its AI/ML programs.

Job market is cyclical, but low level IT jobs have all been offshored. The big thing now is AI and ML, both of which are related to CS degrees. Some colleges are now starting to offer AI majors. That's the next big thing.


Lets push more kids into a technology whose primary benefit is requiring less workers

shrug.. it is what it is. AI is going to grow no matter how much you don't want it to.

Also, right now, AI is a hot market.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:45     Subject: Re:Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Anonymous wrote:Are English majors in high demand?


Actually, yes. The future is bright for humanities majors.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:45     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Anonymous wrote:My husband is a senior software engineer with a highly specialized skillset; the market for entry-level to low mid-level is extremely saturated and starting salaries are no longer competitive.

Party's over!


+1000
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:45     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's good that they're not expanding the seats. My English major found a good high-paying job quite easily out of school, but I know there are not clearly established paths for those majors as there are (or at least used to be) for CS majors.


Please share firm and $.


I won't name the firm but it's a large consulting firm with quantitative focus. Salary is around $90k. I agree with the advice to go to the best school you can get into, do as well as you can in that school, and don't accept the notion that you are limited by your major. My English major also took math, econ, government, etc, so firms knew she could do the work.

I mean, my CS major took English and Business classes (straight As). I guess they can do non CS related work, too?
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:44     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Anonymous wrote:Get a liberal arts degree (economics and something soft) from the highest ranked school you can.

Recruiting for finance, consulting, and corporate /strategy roles are much much easier if you are in English and economics major coming from Rice or Vanderbilt or Emory compared to CS at Purdue…..

Ask around people!!!

Finance and consulting have also seen a constricting job market. Also, CS/eng majors aren't interested in corporate strategy. Despite what some believe, people majoring in CS aren't doing it just because. It's way too math and CS heavy for people who hate math and CS.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:42     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's good that they're not expanding the seats. My English major found a good high-paying job quite easily out of school, but I know there are not clearly established paths for those majors as there are (or at least used to be) for CS majors.


Please share firm and $.


I won't name the firm but it's a large consulting firm with quantitative focus. Salary is around $90k. I agree with the advice to go to the best school you can get into, do as well as you can in that school, and don't accept the notion that you are limited by your major. My English major also took math, econ, government, etc, so firms knew she could do the work.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:31     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My husband is a senior software engineer with a highly specialized skillset; the market for entry-level to low mid-level is extremely saturated and starting salaries are no longer competitive.

Party's over!


I know! My oldest just graduated from UMDCP and only got 3 offers for over 120k.

Nice!!
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:30     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Anonymous wrote:My husband is a senior software engineer with a highly specialized skillset; the market for entry-level to low mid-level is extremely saturated and starting salaries are no longer competitive.

Party's over!


I know! My oldest just graduated from UMDCP and only got 3 offers for over 120k.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:29     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
This is why we need entrepreneurs to create more of the jobs your kids want.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:29     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Also, 90% of the people who were CS, along with myself in undergrad, moved into other areas like sales or management. Very few spent their career in tech. Some of the best product managers I've met at top Silicon Valley companies started off as Engineers even before going on to business school.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:28     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
My husband is a senior software engineer with a highly specialized skillset; the market for entry-level to low mid-level is extremely saturated and starting salaries are no longer competitive.

Party's over!
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2024 09:27     Subject: Word of caution for aspiring CS majors
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What market isn't saturated?

Also, this is why it is so hard to get admitted to a CS program -- they aren't expanding the seats to meet student demand unless there is market demand.

UMD CP actually halved the CS class, but I think that was due to too many students who are not ready for it being interested in it, and wanting to keep the classes more intimate. UMD is also developing its AI/ML programs.

Job market is cyclical, but low level IT jobs have all been offshored. The big thing now is AI and ML, both of which are related to CS degrees. Some colleges are now starting to offer AI majors. That's the next big thing.


Top companies are always on the lookout for top talent. There will always be a short supply of top talent.