Anonymous wrote:Time for the monthly "feeder" thread to misinform new families?

College GPA and LSAT are the primary determinants for admission.

Note that correlation is not causation. Students at highly selective colleges are inherently likely, on average, to have a higher LSAT than students, on average, who attend less selective schools. That is not relevant to what an individual student is capable of scoring.

Admission depends on the student's individual stats. The undergrad institution does not play a significant role.

This is the answer. I don't know why people think that if they keep asking, the answer will change.

I went to a Top 14 law school and there were lots of students from Penn and Duke there. But the people at the top of the class were from all over, including schools like University of Mary Washington and Mount Saint Mary’s.

My advice - go to a school that’s a good fit for you, get good grades, then graduate and get some life and work experience. And then take every LSAT practice test you can until you get the score you need. I got into every school I applied to with mediocre undergrad grades, lots of work experience, and a good story to tell. But most importantly a very high LSAT score

Definitely grades and lsats matter the most.

What you need to find out is what percentage (over time) applicants from a particular college receive acceptances from top law schools. Good luck finding that out.

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Anonymous wrote:The ones with kids who crush the LSAT.

+1

Grades and LSAT scores

And having done something besides going to college. If you want a top 10 school, your odds a significantly lower right out of your bachelor’s degree. And bring something different whether that’s the kind of work you did or where you grew up. High stat UMC white 22 year olds are a dime a dozen. You’re competing against people with Purple Hearts and letters of recommendation from presidents. Rely on your high stats and you’ll probably be disappointed.

Purple Heart yes; Presidential letter doesn't work unless you were the body man and he (unfortunately still just he) knows you well.

I highly doubt they’re writing letters for people they don’t know or for so many people they’ve lost value.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ones with kids who crush the LSAT.

+1

Grades and LSAT scores

And having done something besides going to college. If you want a top 10 school, your odds a significantly lower right out of your bachelor’s degree. And bring something different whether that’s the kind of work you did or where you grew up. High stat UMC white 22 year olds are a dime a dozen. You’re competing against people with Purple Hearts and letters of recommendation from presidents. Rely on your high stats and you’ll probably be disappointed.

Purple Heart yes; Presidential letter doesn't work unless you were the body man and he (unfortunately still just he) knows you well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ones with kids who crush the LSAT.

+1

Grades and LSAT scores

And having done something besides going to college. If you want a top 10 school, your odds a significantly lower right out of your bachelor’s degree. And bring something different whether that’s the kind of work you did or where you grew up. High stat UMC white 22 year olds are a dime a dozen. You’re competing against people with Purple Hearts and letters of recommendation from presidents. Rely on your high stats and you’ll probably be disappointed.

Anonymous wrote:The ones with kids who crush the LSAT.

+1

Grades and LSAT scores

Oh and it seems undergrad does make some difference. I don't know if that is causation or correlation (top undergrads are probably smart and test well).

Does institutional selectivity matter?

When applying to law school, yes, it appears that institutional selectivity does in fact play a role. In our sample, of the students who went on to enroll at America’s best JD programs, approximately 57% graduated from colleges categorized as “Most Selective” or “Extremely Selective.” However, 21% of elite law school students in our sample did graduate from schools indicated as less selective or non-selective, suggesting that attendance at a highly selective undergraduate college or university isn’t a prerequisite to earning a top-flight JD. Click here to see how we group colleges by selectivity.

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

I found this article some time back. Amazing. They have this thing called internet. And you can search it. Think of it like a fast card catalogue in a library.

Anonymous wrote:This has been asked so many times. They are looking to build interesting classes. Not just the same kids who went to the same undergrads with prelaw/polysci focus. Have a fascinating background— any background—with top LSAT scores and GPA.

And to the pp who mentioned “mediocre university,” “tough on the ego,” and “bragging tough for parents,” I am truly sad that college choice and self-esteem are so intertwined for you. I highly recommend Where You Go is Not Who You’ll Be.

This post is full of BS. Ridiculous post.

Anonymous wrote:There are 60+ colleges represented in Harvard's first year law class. Get a killer LSAT and top grades.

But to be fair you must acknowledge that each 1L class has 560 students. The remaining 500 are predominantly from Harvard College (30% of my class when I attended), Yale, Princeton and Stanford

Anonymous wrote:Time for the monthly "feeder" thread to misinform new families?

College GPA and LSAT are the primary determinants for admission.

Note that correlation is not causation. Students at highly selective colleges are inherently likely, on average, to have a higher LSAT than students, on average, who attend less selective schools. That is not relevant to what an individual student is capable of scoring.

Admission depends on the student's individual stats. The undergrad institution does not play a significant role.

Also, a primary driver is tuition and finances, which significantly influence where students apply.

Time for the monthly "feeder" thread to misinform new families?

College GPA and LSAT are the primary determinants for admission.

Note that correlation is not causation. Students at highly selective colleges are inherently likely, on average, to have a higher LSAT than students, on average, who attend less selective schools. That is not relevant to what an individual student is capable of scoring.

Admission depends on the student's individual stats. The undergrad institution does not play a significant role.

There are 60+ colleges represented in Harvard's first year law class. Get a killer LSAT and top grades.