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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why swim coaching is even a thing. All those parents sitting there. AAU basketball is all parent coached.

And you, my friend, will get EXACTLY the quality of coaching you paid for.

+1. The other beauty of swim being a timed sport and not having a ton of parent coaches is that the process of moving up in training groups is pretty transparent.

Yes, just buy private lessons, and wallah.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why swim coaching is even a thing. All those parents sitting there. AAU basketball is all parent coached.

And you, my friend, will get EXACTLY the quality of coaching you paid for.

+1. The other beauty of swim being a timed sport and not having a ton of parent coaches is that the process of moving up in training groups is pretty transparent.

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Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

The swimmer should be paying for the lane for private coaching on top of the coach fee.

They are, it's economics.

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why swim coaching is even a thing. All those parents sitting there. AAU basketball is all parent coached.

And you, my friend, will get EXACTLY the quality of coaching you paid for.

I don't understand why swim coaching is even a thing. All those parents sitting there. AAU basketball is all parent coached.

Club coaches do not get paid enough anywhere. It is not a full time job but the hours in the mornings and evenings take away from family time. Weekends with meets are brutal the hours really do add particularly for coaches who stretch across a couple groups that compete.

Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

The swimmer should be paying for the lane for private coaching on top of the coach fee.

I quit swimming coaching. Low salary for a lot of work and a heavy burden on my Family life. It must be said that the profession faces a significant turn over and numerous burn outs.

club coaches across every single club team in this area are paid very poorly unless they are the head coach which is why the others are either balancing another job or are college students.

Anonymous wrote:Not much I Think. For RMSC, the coaches even have to pay lane time for lane time when giving private lessons. That how one of the Rockville coaches got in trouble. She was not paying.

I think they should have to pay for the lane if they are giving private lessons.
I also think RMSC should pay better in general but private lessons are different

Anonymous wrote:it is true, a lot have other jobs. but other clubs pay salaries for their coaches. clubs like NCAP, machine, ASA, Toll all have some coaches on salary. Just because rmsc doesn't value their coaches and pays even their national coaches hourly rates doesn't mean there aren't other clubs that treat their coaches better.

+1

My kids swim with Machine and my sense is that the head coach/site coach for each location is salaried and employed full-time. The others all have other jobs, so that's most of the coaches, but at the ones with more program oversight are compensated accordingly. I doubt they're super well-paid, but this is their full-time gig.

it is true, a lot have other jobs. but other clubs pay salaries for their coaches. clubs like NCAP, machine, ASA, Toll all have some coaches on salary. Just because rmsc doesn't value their coaches and pays even their national coaches hourly rates doesn't mean there aren't other clubs that treat their coaches better.

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind it’s a part-time job. All of my kids club coaches also have a “day job”. Not saying it isn’t a ton of work, especially on meet weekends, but it is not meant to be a full time position.

+1. As a PP said, a lot of them are teachers.

Keep in mind it’s a part-time job. All of my kids club coaches also have a “day job”. Not saying it isn’t a ton of work, especially on meet weekends, but it is not meant to be a full time position.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, Are we talking about year round club coaches or summer club type coaches? There was a recent thread about summer coaching.

Club coaches. We all complain about bad coaches not getting fired but who here is going to go work full-time for ~$36,000 a year given the other option is just no coach.

My DS worked part time for a club outside of the DMV when he was in college. He graduated two years ago, so this was recently. He got his USA Swimming Coaches certification and worked about 6 hours a week. He was a junior coach and was handed the sets. He was making $17 an hour. He really liked the job - the pool where he coached was on campus. And he didn't have to do any meets. I would imagine the more senior coaches were making quite a bit more than he did.

All of the coaches my kids had when they swam club had other jobs. Most of them were school teachers. The only ones who didn't have another job were the owners of the club.