Anonymous
05/16/2024 10:17
Subject: Geometry in 8th versus 9th grade?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most kids are ready to take Algebra 1 in 6th grade and are extremely successful, as national data proves.
That’s hilarious. Only 26% of 8th graders in US test at or above grade level math proficiency- proficiency level tested is pre-Algebra
PP uses data for kids who are already enrolled in Algebra 1 honors in 6th and extrapolates it to all kids, showing PP doesn't understand basic logic or statistics.
I think that person ("URM equity math troll") doesn't understand numerals, because they have repeatedly failed to distinguish between 6 and 8 in their posts.
Anonymous
05/16/2024 10:16
Subject: Geometry in 8th versus 9th grade?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Assuming a test smart and organized student has the option to take Algebra as a 7th grader and Geometry as an 8th grader, and would not have any problems academically and grade-wise (assuming they'll get A's in both), what are the reasons to do this as opposed to taking Algebra in 8th and Geometry in 9th?
If they don't have any particular interest in Math beyond Calculus, why not just track to take Calculus as a senior, as opposed as a junior?
Trying to understand why this would be a benefit - is there access to higher level courses in high school, or a college admissions bump?
Also, if someone does end up taking Calculus as a junior, then as a senior does not take Multivariable Calculus but instead statistics, would this hurt their college applications? And is Multivariable Calculus hard or a pain, or no big deal for this cohort of students - is it worth avoiding or not a big deal?
Look at the prerequisite graph of the program of study at your high school.
Many courses have Algebra 2 as a prerequisite. Thus, the sooner your child has completed this course, the sooner they can take many subsequent courses in other STEM disciplines.
Total nonissue unless you are at a science magnet.
Anonymous
05/16/2024 09:55
Subject: Geometry in 8th versus 9th grade?
Anonymous wrote:Assuming a test smart and organized student has the option to take Algebra as a 7th grader and Geometry as an 8th grader, and would not have any problems academically and grade-wise (assuming they'll get A's in both), what are the reasons to do this as opposed to taking Algebra in 8th and Geometry in 9th?
If they don't have any particular interest in Math beyond Calculus, why not just track to take Calculus as a senior, as opposed as a junior?
Trying to understand why this would be a benefit - is there access to higher level courses in high school, or a college admissions bump?
Also, if someone does end up taking Calculus as a junior, then as a senior does not take Multivariable Calculus but instead statistics, would this hurt their college applications? And is Multivariable Calculus hard or a pain, or no big deal for this cohort of students - is it worth avoiding or not a big deal?
Look at the prerequisite graph of the program of study at your high school.
Many courses have Algebra 2 as a prerequisite. Thus, the sooner your child has completed this course, the sooner they can take many subsequent courses in other STEM disciplines.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 11:07
Subject: Geometry in 8th versus 9th grade?
I am an assistant basketball coach for my son's team. If a 3rd grader is ready to shoot three pointers, should they be told not to because their teammates cant shoot from that distance yet? Physical and intellectual development occurs at different paces from student to student. It doesnt make sense to hold back everyone until the last peer catches up. If a six grader is excelling in Algebra 1, they should be allowed to progress at their own comfortable pace.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 10:46
Subject: Geometry in 8th versus 9th grade?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most kids are ready to take Algebra 1 in 6th grade and are extremely successful, as national data proves.
That’s hilarious. Only 26% of 8th graders in US test at or above grade level math proficiency- proficiency level tested is pre-Algebra
PP uses data for kids who are already enrolled in Algebra 1 honors in 6th and extrapolates it to all kids, showing PP doesn't understand basic logic or statistics.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 10:38
Subject: Geometry in 8th versus 9th grade?
Anonymous wrote:Most kids are ready to take Algebra 1 in 6th grade and are extremely successful, as national data proves.
That’s hilarious. Only 26% of 8th graders in US test at or above grade level math proficiency- proficiency level tested is pre-Algebra
Anonymous
05/15/2024 10:31
Subject: Geometry in 8th versus 9th grade?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We chose Algebra 1H in 7th and Geometry for 8th even though our DD is unlikely to pursue a STEM track. She's doing great in math and we want to expose her to the most rigorous curriculum she can handle. The added benefit is she'll have a solid math foundation for the PSAT and SAT by her junior year.
Eh, this is very kid specific. We have one kid who did this. Algebra IIH was incredibly tough and she learned geometry years before she needed it for the PSAT and SAT so she needed a refresher. My kid who started Algebra in 8th is doing much better overall in math.
Of course it's kid specific. I'm assuming the OP's child is math capable or they wouldn't be asking asking "what are the reasons to do this as opposed to taking Algebra in 8th and Geometry in 9th?". It's great that your child who took Algebra in 8th is doing better. Holding my DD back a year by taking Math 7H would bore her and she might not do as well.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 10:15
Subject: Geometry in 8th versus 9th grade?
Anonymous wrote:We chose Algebra 1H in 7th and Geometry for 8th even though our DD is unlikely to pursue a STEM track. She's doing great in math and we want to expose her to the most rigorous curriculum she can handle. The added benefit is she'll have a solid math foundation for the PSAT and SAT by her junior year.
Eh, this is very kid specific. We have one kid who did this. Algebra IIH was incredibly tough and she learned geometry years before she needed it for the PSAT and SAT so she needed a refresher. My kid who started Algebra in 8th is doing much better overall in math.
Anonymous
05/15/2024 10:01
Subject: Geometry in 8th versus 9th grade?
the issue is how well your kid can absorb Algebra I itself but because it is so foundational for later courses.