Anonymous
05/14/2024 09:10
Subject: Not sure I want to keep working in healthcare - looking for advice
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Im a physician who transitioned to pharma and payor, let me know if you have brighter ideas. The US healthcare sector is truly hurting and requires significant private and public buy in to reinvigorate. People like to demonize pharma and insurance, but the truth is no one is investing in their own health. Everyone thinks it is someone else's responsibility. People would rather buy the latest phone, travel, buy the fancy car/designer bag and then show up
in the emergency department demanding healthcare as a right. I dont know how to fix it.
You deny pas in primary care settings and then whine when people show up in the ED?
You seem short on self awareness, which is gelpful in the health insurance industry.
People in general are upset at paying $25 co-pay visits to see a physician, but have no problem tipping that to their waiter/waittress. Had a Saudi patient with moneybags tipping every nurse, nurse assistant, physician on the floor with dollar cash and people were hating on him. American consumers are all mighty in almost every sector except healthcare. Insurance was supposed to be for catastrophic events, and yet in healthcare we expect insurance to pay for even basic check up and maintenance.
Anonymous
05/14/2024 02:36
Subject: Not sure I want to keep working in healthcare - looking for advice
Anonymous wrote:Im a physician who transitioned to pharma and payor, let me know if you have brighter ideas. The US healthcare sector is truly hurting and requires significant private and public buy in to reinvigorate. People like to demonize pharma and insurance, but the truth is no one is investing in their own health. Everyone thinks it is someone else's responsibility. People would rather buy the latest phone, travel, buy the fancy car/designer bag and then show up
in the emergency department demanding healthcare as a right. I dont know how to fix it.
You deny pas in primary care settings and then whine when people show up in the ED?
You seem short on self awareness, which is gelpful in the health insurance industry.
Anonymous
05/14/2024 02:33
Subject: Not sure I want to keep working in healthcare - looking for advice
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seeking help!
I’m a midcareer, non-clinical MBA working in healthcare administration. I loathe the healthcare model in our country and, more selfishly, recognize that it is and will always be capital-intensive and highly regulated. You are at the mercy of physicians, pharmaceutical companies, and (worst of all) insurance companies.
That said, I know that I *can* make money at a higher level in this industry, but am wondering if it’s smart to leverage this experience into something else: I’m still pretty young and considering pharmaceutical sales. Or something else?
Advice??
You got an MBA, it’s not like you were planning to save the dolphins.
Obv get into tech if you can, but healthcare is pretty recession resistant and less ageist than other industries.
You say you are pretty young. Post MBA that must mean mid 30s? Is that young in Pharma sales?
Anyways, it’s not if you are pretty young, you need to be PRETTY AND YOUNG.
I am pretty, late thirties (very regularly thought to be early thirties if it matters - I have good skin). And high energy, bubbly, positive - youthful energy.
It's rough for a 40 y.o,, even one whio is aging well, to compete with beautiful 25 year olds in pharma sales.
Anonymous
05/13/2024 16:32
Subject: Not sure I want to keep working in healthcare - looking for advice
I work in the health insurance space and it is lucrative.
Anonymous
05/13/2024 16:06
Subject: Not sure I want to keep working in healthcare - looking for advice
Anonymous wrote:Im a physician who transitioned to pharma and payor, let me know if you have brighter ideas. The US healthcare sector is truly hurting and requires significant private and public buy in to reinvigorate. People like to demonize pharma and insurance, but the truth is no one is investing in their own health. Everyone thinks it is someone else's responsibility. People would rather buy the latest phone, travel, buy the fancy car/designer bag and then show up
in the emergency department demanding healthcare as a right. I dont know how to fix it.
To be fair, our society doesn’t really teach or model good health (whether through schools, urban design, workplace rights, civic engagement etc). Largely access to good health relies upon a high income in this country; it’s not really baked in by any means.
Anonymous
05/13/2024 13:16
Subject: Not sure I want to keep working in healthcare - looking for advice
Im a physician who transitioned to pharma and payor, let me know if you have brighter ideas. The US healthcare sector is truly hurting and requires significant private and public buy in to reinvigorate. People like to demonize pharma and insurance, but the truth is no one is investing in their own health. Everyone thinks it is someone else's responsibility. People would rather buy the latest phone, travel, buy the fancy car/designer bag and then show up
in the emergency department demanding healthcare as a right. I dont know how to fix it.
in the emergency department demanding healthcare as a right. I dont know how to fix it.
Anonymous
05/13/2024 09:57
Subject: Not sure I want to keep working in healthcare - looking for advice
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sure sell your soul for whatever price
I think that pretty much whatever you end up doing - even teaching, government, or nonprofits - involves some selling of the soul.
+1
I always wonder if these “never sell your soul” types are the same ones angling to get their kids into the Ivys so they can get the best most high paying jobs.
Anonymous
05/13/2024 09:49
Subject: Not sure I want to keep working in healthcare - looking for advice
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seeking help!
I’m a midcareer, non-clinical MBA working in healthcare administration. I loathe the healthcare model in our country and, more selfishly, recognize that it is and will always be capital-intensive and highly regulated. You are at the mercy of physicians, pharmaceutical companies, and (worst of all) insurance companies.
That said, I know that I *can* make money at a higher level in this industry, but am wondering if it’s smart to leverage this experience into something else: I’m still pretty young and considering pharmaceutical sales. Or something else?
Advice??
You got an MBA, it’s not like you were planning to save the dolphins.
Obv get into tech if you can, but healthcare is pretty recession resistant and less ageist than other industries.
You say you are pretty young. Post MBA that must mean mid 30s? Is that young in Pharma sales?
Anyways, it’s not if you are pretty young, you need to be PRETTY AND YOUNG.
I am pretty, late thirties (very regularly thought to be early thirties if it matters - I have good skin). And high energy, bubbly, positive - youthful energy.
Who goes around guessing or asking people’s ages?
Whatever, you are basically 40 by the time this ball get rolling.
What does “youthful energy” even mean?
Can you at least sell yourself convincingly?
I think PP suggesting health tech is on the right path.
This is OP; I worked in healthcare IT (analytics) before transitioning to administration. I am very good at connecting to people, getting people to open up, and yes, I can sell myself convincingly.
I need to be in a role where my people skills are most highly valued.