Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 12:44     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are inside jokes and memes about this, OP. People should be paid living wages, not housewife wages. People with the experience don't apply for these insulting jobs. Employees say "people don't want to work" haha.


I work at a company in Nova. I just hired a lovely women with MBA and great experience at low wage for what she is worth. She is a new mom with a husband with big job DC

She took it as it is a straight 9-5 job no OT ever. My office is literally one mile her house. We are hybrid two days remote. She leaves every day 445pm to pick up one year old. She literally can run errands at lunch.

It is a housewife job. They exist. But she is WFH two days a week and even home by 5pm on in person days.





The problem is now anything with reasonable hours and work-life balance is considered a housewife job. The above job, that should be the norm for most jobs regardless of who does them.


+1
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 12:32     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are inside jokes and memes about this, OP. People should be paid living wages, not housewife wages. People with the experience don't apply for these insulting jobs. Employees say "people don't want to work" haha.


I work at a company in Nova. I just hired a lovely women with MBA and great experience at low wage for what she is worth. She is a new mom with a husband with big job DC

She took it as it is a straight 9-5 job no OT ever. My office is literally one mile her house. We are hybrid two days remote. She leaves every day 445pm to pick up one year old. She literally can run errands at lunch.

It is a housewife job. They exist. But she is WFH two days a week and even home by 5pm on in person days.





no 9-5 job is housewife job.

Housewife job is like 9-12pm, covering preschool hours

You are a POS


DP.

Inaccurate. HS teachers work more hours than that and that is definitely a housewife job.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 12:21     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep. But city is giving great medical, dental, vision, pension, 457b, job security.

To be honest those are “housewife” jobs not meant to support a family.

I worked in a job like that briefly and mainly married women who lived nearby whose husband had no benefits in his job


then they shoudnt require a degree and 5 years experience if its a housewife job WTF


It's 2024 -- a college degree is the equivalent of a 1960 high school diploma for these purposes.


Not financially its not! Regardless of your "feelings" on the matter. 1960s HS Diploma= free. College 4 years = not free.


Free or not free doesn’t enter into the analysis of employers—which is what this pp refers to. Not sure why you are using the word “feelings” (and putting quotation marks around it?).
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 11:36     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not looking for a job for myself, but was casually looking through some job postings. I feel like the in most of them, the pay is really low compared to the cost of living.

For example, one I found in another small city--it's not in the DC area and cost of living is lower, but a 1 bedroom apartment (not luxury or fancy, just a decent apartment) averages about $1000/month.
The job was for the city in their zoning/city planning department. They required a BA in a relevant degree and at least one year of experience, but preferred 5+ years of experience.
The pay? Just under $20/hr (40 hour work week.) That seems REALLY low to me. For comparison, I just looked and jobs at the local Sheetz gas station are paying $14.50/hr.

Am I just out of touch, or is that pay (for the city job) shockingly low?


WTF are you comparing an unskilled hourly wage job to a skilled, salaried public sector job with benefits?

Go back to high school OP.


WTF are you saying things that aren't true? I never said anything about a salaried job. I specifially stated in my OP that the job paid just under $20/hr.

Go back to pre-school and learn how to read.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 11:33     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not looking for a job for myself, but was casually looking through some job postings. I feel like the in most of them, the pay is really low compared to the cost of living.

For example, one I found in another small city--it's not in the DC area and cost of living is lower, but a 1 bedroom apartment (not luxury or fancy, just a decent apartment) averages about $1000/month.
The job was for the city in their zoning/city planning department. They required a BA in a relevant degree and at least one year of experience, but preferred 5+ years of experience.
The pay? Just under $20/hr (40 hour work week.) That seems REALLY low to me. For comparison, I just looked and jobs at the local Sheetz gas station are paying $14.50/hr.

Am I just out of touch, or is that pay (for the city job) shockingly low?


WTF are you comparing an unskilled hourly wage job to a skilled, salaried public sector job with benefits?

Go back to high school OP.


She is comparing them because they pay about the same.

What exactly is the advantage of “salaried” — you still are expected to work at least 40 hours a week?

Benefits can be useful I suppose.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 11:06     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Employers can ask for whatever experience/education they want and offer whatever pay they want. You might be surprised how many "housewives", kids living with their parents and near-retirees are willing to take these jobs.

There are no "rules" they need to follow besides minimum wage and discrimination.
Wages are set by the (scattered, imperfect) marketplace.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 11:04     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:There are inside jokes and memes about this, OP. People should be paid living wages, not housewife wages. People with the experience don't apply for these insulting jobs. Employees say "people don't want to work" haha.


Don’t wanna work too much cuz then I loose my welfare benies.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 11:02     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:I'm not looking for a job for myself, but was casually looking through some job postings. I feel like the in most of them, the pay is really low compared to the cost of living.

For example, one I found in another small city--it's not in the DC area and cost of living is lower, but a 1 bedroom apartment (not luxury or fancy, just a decent apartment) averages about $1000/month.
The job was for the city in their zoning/city planning department. They required a BA in a relevant degree and at least one year of experience, but preferred 5+ years of experience.
The pay? Just under $20/hr (40 hour work week.) That seems REALLY low to me. For comparison, I just looked and jobs at the local Sheetz gas station are paying $14.50/hr.

Am I just out of touch, or is that pay (for the city job) shockingly low?


WTF are you comparing an unskilled hourly wage job to a skilled, salaried public sector job with benefits?

Go back to high school OP.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 11:00     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep. But city is giving great medical, dental, vision, pension, 457b, job security.

To be honest those are “housewife” jobs not meant to support a family.

I worked in a job like that briefly and mainly married women who lived nearby whose husband had no benefits in his job


then they shoudnt require a degree and 5 years experience if its a housewife job WTF

The degree and job experience might actually be necessary to perform the work.


So someone graduated and worked for 5+ years and prefers to be housewife possibly bc husband makes nice money but then works for $20/hr?
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 10:24     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are inside jokes and memes about this, OP. People should be paid living wages, not housewife wages. People with the experience don't apply for these insulting jobs. Employees say "people don't want to work" haha.


I work at a company in Nova. I just hired a lovely women with MBA and great experience at low wage for what she is worth. She is a new mom with a husband with big job DC

She took it as it is a straight 9-5 job no OT ever. My office is literally one mile her house. We are hybrid two days remote. She leaves every day 445pm to pick up one year old. She literally can run errands at lunch.

It is a housewife job. They exist. But she is WFH two days a week and even home by 5pm on in person days.





If her DH has a job and she still feels the need to work at a low paying obviously demeaning job (I’m sure your attitude is palpable), she likely feels insecure in some, such as abusive DH or her DH “big job” is very precarious. Nice to prey on her like that.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 10:22     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are inside jokes and memes about this, OP. People should be paid living wages, not housewife wages. People with the experience don't apply for these insulting jobs. Employees say "people don't want to work" haha.


I work at a company in Nova. I just hired a lovely women with MBA and great experience at low wage for what she is worth. She is a new mom with a husband with big job DC

She took it as it is a straight 9-5 job no OT ever. My office is literally one mile her house. We are hybrid two days remote. She leaves every day 445pm to pick up one year old. She literally can run errands at lunch.

It is a housewife job. They exist. But she is WFH two days a week and even home by 5pm on in person days.





no 9-5 job is housewife job.

Housewife job is like 9-12pm, covering preschool hours

You are a POS
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 09:26     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are inside jokes and memes about this, OP. People should be paid living wages, not housewife wages. People with the experience don't apply for these insulting jobs. Employees say "people don't want to work" haha.


I work at a company in Nova. I just hired a lovely women with MBA and great experience at low wage for what she is worth. She is a new mom with a husband with big job DC

She took it as it is a straight 9-5 job no OT ever. My office is literally one mile her house. We are hybrid two days remote. She leaves every day 445pm to pick up one year old. She literally can run errands at lunch.

It is a housewife job. They exist. But she is WFH two days a week and even home by 5pm on in person days.





You are the reason I don't wear any rings or talk about my kids/family at work.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 09:22     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Pay is not a function of what workers need to live. NOT a capitalist society.

They pay the minimum they need to to fill the position.

This is why we need living wage laws.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 09:07     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are inside jokes and memes about this, OP. People should be paid living wages, not housewife wages. People with the experience don't apply for these insulting jobs. Employees say "people don't want to work" haha.


I work at a company in Nova. I just hired a lovely women with MBA and great experience at low wage for what she is worth. She is a new mom with a husband with big job DC

She took it as it is a straight 9-5 job no OT ever. My office is literally one mile her house. We are hybrid two days remote. She leaves every day 445pm to pick up one year old. She literally can run errands at lunch.

It is a housewife job. They exist. But she is WFH two days a week and even home by 5pm on in person days.





I’m a fed and I work fully remote, good benefits, 150k+ a year when including bonuses.

I had really wanted to work in local government (and did for a year before getting hired by a federal agency) and the pay/flexibility was so much lower. I think local government in particular is at a disadvantage in keeping up with pay/benefits because no one wants to be the politician to massively raise property taxes to fund this.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2024 09:07     Subject: Employers wanting a degree and several years of experience, but pay is very low?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are inside jokes and memes about this, OP. People should be paid living wages, not housewife wages. People with the experience don't apply for these insulting jobs. Employees say "people don't want to work" haha.


I work at a company in Nova. I just hired a lovely women with MBA and great experience at low wage for what she is worth. She is a new mom with a husband with big job DC

She took it as it is a straight 9-5 job no OT ever. My office is literally one mile her house. We are hybrid two days remote. She leaves every day 445pm to pick up one year old. She literally can run errands at lunch.

It is a housewife job. They exist. But she is WFH two days a week and even home by 5pm on in person days.





The problem is now anything with reasonable hours and work-life balance is considered a housewife job. The above job, that should be the norm for most jobs regardless of who does them.


I agree. Unfortunately there are enough crazy people in management that think you should be devoted to a company and "prove your value" whenever possible. A lot of "urgencies" are contrived. Too many power trips.