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Anonymous wrote:We just toured BC and it's very very suburban white kid vibe. I mean, felt even more than it was in the 90s when I was a very suburban white kid!

I like Jesuits, but a little diversity of thought would be good. And that can't only come from the top. The student population should be a little more diverse, and not just racially. It's unusual to be on a college campus now without seeing a more gender fluid, international, artsy, etc kids. But you don't see that at BC.

I'd maybe go with Michigan. I think a kid would grow more there.

The last 2 weeks should make you think hard about the downside of having a vibrant & diverse student body. Ideally, diverse groups socialize & learn from each other. When administrators are so weak that they allow diversity to devolve into threats, disruptions, and chaos, the ROI of diversity is sub-optimal.

That's right, when topics get heated retreat to a bubble of white people.

Your kid is either an adult or about to be one. Talk to them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did they get merit at either one?

No.

Then neither. No school is worth 80K.

BC is at $93k all in.

Anonymous wrote:We just toured BC and it's very very suburban white kid vibe. I mean, felt even more than it was in the 90s when I was a very suburban white kid!

I like Jesuits, but a little diversity of thought would be good. And that can't only come from the top. The student population should be a little more diverse, and not just racially. It's unusual to be on a college campus now without seeing a more gender fluid, international, artsy, etc kids. But you don't see that at BC.

I'd maybe go with Michigan. I think a kid would grow more there.

The last 2 weeks should make you think hard about the downside of having a vibrant & diverse student body. Ideally, diverse groups socialize & learn from each other. When administrators are so weak that they allow diversity to devolve into threats, disruptions, and chaos, the ROI of diversity is sub-optimal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did they get merit at either one?

No.

Then neither. No school is worth 80K.

Debatable.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did they get merit at either one?

No.

Then neither. No school is worth 80K.

Somewhat agree. No school is worth 80K for an English or History major (would certainly pay that for a STEM and certain Business majors at the right school). Plenty of lower ranked private schools will give you an equivalent education in those areas for far less. Supposedly Liberal Arts colleges have a strong pipeline to law school and Ph.D programs so you may want to start from those numbers and work backwards.

Anonymous wrote:Really? One is 9k undergraduates, Jesuit in Boston. The other is 33k undergrads.

I had no relationships with Amy professors at UM. My sibling at a smaller college is still in touch with several professors who helped tremendously with career and internships.

My kid at UM makes it a point to establish a relationship with the professors of each of the classes he thinks he sees a future in. For example, he couldn't care less about his Chem professor but makes it a point to get to know and establish rapport with, say, his Computer Theory or Operating Systems professors. Most end up asking him to apply for a IA job for their class in the next semester and he is typically fielding mutiple offers. It's all about you, but I suspect that process may be a bit easier at a smaller private. I'd say Michigan gives you the 'opportunity' for such self-advocacy which is going to help, not hurt, in the legal profession. Not sure if UM undergrads have a leg up in admissions to Michigan Law but that's something to consider as well if Michigan Law is on the student's law school list.

BC grad, have lived near AnnArbor for 30 years. These 2 offer very different experiences. VERY different.

At BC you are in your own mid-sized idyllic academic world. On campus you will encounter almost zero people from outside the college. This allows you to focus on your studies with very few distractions. But when you want a change of pace, a full array of people & things are a short trolley ride away.

Michigan’s enormous campus is so intertwined with the city that you will necessarily encounter almost endless distractions & people not connected to the university. This is great if you want that—not so great if you want to have total control over who & what you encounter just walking to class. Also, off-campus housing options can get pretty bad in Ann Arbor.

Academics—they will both get you where you want to go.

Good luck. Both are great options for the right person.

We just toured BC and it's very very suburban white kid vibe. I mean, felt even more than it was in the 90s when I was a very suburban white kid!

I like Jesuits, but a little diversity of thought would be good. And that can't only come from the top. The student population should be a little more diverse, and not just racially. It's unusual to be on a college campus now without seeing a more gender fluid, international, artsy, etc kids. But you don't see that at BC.

I'd maybe go with Michigan. I think a kid would grow more there.

BC hands down. Also way more internship opportunities.

BC is lovely. Good networking too.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they get merit at either one?

No.

Then neither. No school is worth 80K.

BC

Anonymous wrote:Which would you choose for a liberal arts degree (English or History) followed by law school?

I will say that Michigan has both a top five History and a top 10 English department (at the graduate level of course). The advantage to that is a huge diverse amount of course offerings with excellent instructors. I’m not saying BC wouldn’t have great professors, but I can almost guarantee that the variety of course offerings will be far less.

Anonymous wrote:Whichever one DC wants. Do they want big time football and basketball in a college town dominated by one of the largest and best public colleges? Or do they want a smaller college that’s in a city full of different world class universities? I went to BC and loved it but it’s more a matter of preference than is one “better” than the other.

For these msjors, either school is just fine. It’s a matter of fit, per usual.