Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why the black population is very low in NoVA relative to MD or DC. Even if the covenants were unenforceable, the culture of the neighborhoods was still outwardly racist and hostile for decades afterwards. Desegregation of schools in NoVA did not de facto happen until the 1970s. And even then, those black kids in NoVA public schools had a very rough go of it.

Falls Church City Schools were the first to desegregate in 1961.

Good history of it all here:
https://fallschurchpulse.org/falls-churchs-black-history-henderson/

It is easy to say you desegregated when you gerrymandered your borders to cut out any areas that had any minorities first.

Anonymous wrote:So what?

I live in a 1920s-30s neighborhood with racial and anti-Jewish covenants. It was never a secret. We talked about it 40 years ago and how it was wrong back then too.

None of this is new and none of this is telling us anything we already didn't know. And none were legally enforceable since 1948.

I'd classify it as more meaningless virtue signaling so overprivileged academics can feel better about their moral superiority in "discovering" something that was always already known and established and long since made illegal.

I’m dazzled that someone could be this threatened by a history project!

So what?

I live in a 1920s-30s neighborhood with racial and anti-Jewish covenants. It was never a secret. We talked about it 40 years ago and how it was wrong back then too.

None of this is new and none of this is telling us anything we already didn't know. And none were legally enforceable since 1948.

I'd classify it as more meaningless virtue signaling so overprivileged academics can feel better about their moral superiority in "discovering" something that was always already known and established and long since made illegal.

Anonymous wrote:This is why the black population is very low in NoVA relative to MD or DC. Even if the covenants were unenforceable, the culture of the neighborhoods was still outwardly racist and hostile for decades afterwards. Desegregation of schools in NoVA did not de facto happen until the 1970s. And even then, those black kids in NoVA public schools had a very rough go of it.

Falls Church City Schools were the first to desegregate in 1961.

Good history of it all here:
https://fallschurchpulse.org/falls-churchs-black-history-henderson/

Do these neighborhoods even exist anymore? There is one covering an area of Falls Church whose community group I saw meeting last night and they aren't in the group listed on the map.

Damn, Bellevue Forest covered all their bases in 1941. Even gave a benevolent carve-out for the domestic servants!

"No lot or lots hereby conveyed or any interest in it or them, shall ever be used, occupied by, sold, demised, transferred, conveyed unto, or in trust for, leased, rented or given to any person or persons who are not of the Caucasian race, or to any person or persons of the Semetic race, blood or origin, which racial description shall be deemed to include Armenians, Jews, Hebrews, Persians and Assyrians, except that, this paragraph shall not be held to exclude partial occupancy of the premises by domestic servants of the owner or owners of said lots or lots, his or their heirs or assigns."

This is why the black population is very low in NoVA relative to MD or DC. Even if the covenants were unenforceable, the culture of the neighborhoods was still outwardly racist and hostile for decades afterwards. Desegregation of schools in NoVA did not de facto happen until the 1970s. And even then, those black kids in NoVA public schools had a very rough go of it.

I am curious if there were any Black neighborhoods in the DC metro area or the US that did this to ban white people from living in their community? I'm sure this was less common (if it occurred at all), but it would be interesting to see if this happened anywhere. Also how did this work for Asian people. I know some neighborhoods in California banned asians, but I'm not sure if this common practice in the DC metro area. I suspect that the covenants largely ignored this population because it was so small back then (they were under 1% of NOVA population).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Researches at Marymount put together an interactive map showing racial covenants prohibiting non-whites in various areas of Northern VA (Arlington, Alexandria, Falls Church, Fairfax County, City of Fairfax). It's alarming (though not surprising) to look up the language when various communities and neighborhoods were developed.

Map: https://documentingexclusion.org/map/

Really interesting - in one near my house it even has the name of the seller and the deed provides that if the covenant is violated the land reverts back to her. My nail salon is on the street that bears her family name.

Talk about unenforceable!

Anonymous wrote:Researches at Marymount put together an interactive map showing racial covenants prohibiting non-whites in various areas of Northern VA (Arlington, Alexandria, Falls Church, Fairfax County, City of Fairfax). It's alarming (though not surprising) to look up the language when various communities and neighborhoods were developed.

Map: https://documentingexclusion.org/map/

Really interesting - in one near my house it even has the name of the seller and the deed provides that if the covenant is violated the land reverts back to her. My nail salon is on the street that bears her family name.

Very interesting. When I purchased my house my seller paid to have the deed rewritten because he refused be involved with a transaction that had a restrictive covenant (yes, he knew it wasn’t enforceable).

I like to see the communities that ban white people.

Levittown on Long Island one of original suburbs was built mainly for newly middle class returning white WWII veterans which sounds terrible.

But in Roosevelt Long Island around same time they built a black version of Levittown for newly middle class black. No difference between two developments building wise.

My Levitt while alive said he is absolutely not a racist. But at that time I’m history white people and black people did not want to buy into segregate neighborhoods and it would have tanked his home sales.

On a side plenty of black people now live in Levittown and in Roosevelt Long Island a brave young boy named Howard Stern was one of first white kids to move in. He talks a lot about his childhood going to pretty much an all black high school.