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Anonymous wrote:The public school part of Cornell is still Ivy for sure, but the fact that Cornell offers in state tuition, etc. is exactly why many people consider it a “lower Ivy.”

Which is pure snobbery because the in-state discounted cost of attendance is 2x the cost of in-state University of Michigan.

Who is “many people?” I mean for real, in the outside world, no one cares about this. Are you a Cornell grad with an axe to grind or what?

- Cornell grad (A&S).

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:The public school part of Cornell is still Ivy for sure, but the fact that Cornell offers in state tuition, etc. is exactly why many people consider it a “lower Ivy.”

Which is pure snobbery because the in-state discounted cost of attendance is 2x the cost of in-state University of Michigan.

Who is “many people?” I mean for real, in the outside world, no one cares about this. Are you a Cornell grad with an axe to grind or what?

- Cornell grad (A&S).

Easiest to get into is the hotel school. 30% acceptance last I knew.

Not sure of the OOS versus in state difference.

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Anonymous wrote:What's interesting is that Human Ecology shrunk a TON (37%) over the last year...they accepted 200 fewer student from Fall 2022 to Fall 2023...and their acceptance rate dropped a ton as a result. Anyone have any idea why they shrank so much?

Not sure, but I would assume a reallocation of resources. They probably make more money from the comp sci and engineering programs, so I'll bet they're putting their muscle there.

Speculating that they probably got tired of people lying about their reasons for applying and then trying to transfer to other colleges.

Human Ecology shelters the newish Brooks Public Policy school. They are working on growing that.

The majors in that college are very niche. It seems like they would really be looking for a very specific kind of applicant. I wouldn't try to "back door" my way in there just because the acceptance rate is a bit higher (and it's still quite low--11%). And the tiny size means it's really tough.

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Anonymous wrote:What's interesting is that Human Ecology shrunk a TON (37%) over the last year...they accepted 200 fewer student from Fall 2022 to Fall 2023...and their acceptance rate dropped a ton as a result. Anyone have any idea why they shrank so much?

Not sure, but I would assume a reallocation of resources. They probably make more money from the comp sci and engineering programs, so I'll bet they're putting their muscle there.

Speculating that they probably got tired of people lying about their reasons for applying and then trying to transfer to other colleges.

Human Ecology shelters the newish Brooks Public Policy school. They are working on growing that.

Anonymous wrote:The public school part of Cornell is still Ivy for sure, but the fact that Cornell offers in state tuition, etc. is exactly why many people consider it a “lower Ivy.”

Which is pure snobbery because the in-state discounted cost of attendance is 2x the cost of in-state University of Michigan.

Anonymous wrote:Varies enormously. See https://irp.dpb.cornell.edu/university-factbook/undergraduate-admissions To see stats by college.

Thanks! This was really helpful and encouraging. DD is interested in CALS for animal/vet science and probably has a better chance than we expected.

The public school part of Cornell is still Ivy for sure, but the fact that Cornell offers in state tuition, etc. is exactly why many people consider it a “lower Ivy.”

the hotel school has the highest acceptance rate.

Anonymous wrote:What's interesting is that Human Ecology shrunk a TON (37%) over the last year...they accepted 200 fewer student from Fall 2022 to Fall 2023...and their acceptance rate dropped a ton as a result. Anyone have any idea why they shrank so much?

Not sure, but I would assume a reallocation of resources. They probably make more money from the comp sci and engineering programs, so I'll bet they're putting their muscle there.

What's interesting is that Human Ecology shrunk a TON (37%) over the last year...they accepted 200 fewer student from Fall 2022 to Fall 2023...and their acceptance rate dropped a ton as a result. Anyone have any idea why they shrank so much?

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Anonymous wrote:Do the different colleges at Cornell have very different acceptance rates (for out of state)? My DC is interested in a couple of the majors in the College of Human Ecology and am wondering it it is any easier to get into that A&S?

Yes and yes. A&S and Engineering are the two difficult ones that parallel ivy acceptance rates and have an ivy-type stacked applicant pool. The other ones are no slouch but the applicant and acceptance pool is different (lower course rigor, lower test scores )

At the same time, those colleges can be also harder to enter because they are looking for a specific type of candidate profile instead of the typical gunners for A&S and Eng. All the colleges have different essays and I think you can only apply to one.

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Anonymous wrote:Do the different colleges at Cornell have very different acceptance rates (for out of state)? My DC is interested in a couple of the majors in the College of Human Ecology and am wondering it it is any easier to get into that A&S?

Yes and yes. A&S and Engineering are the two difficult ones that parallel ivy acceptance rates and have an ivy-type stacked applicant pool. The other ones are no slouch but the applicant and acceptance pool is different (lower course rigor, lower test scores )

Those other schools are looking for very niche candidates….

You can’t apply as a history or math or Philosophy major.

Anonymous wrote:Varies enormously. See https://irp.dpb.cornell.edu/university-factbook/undergraduate-admissions To see stats by college.

Thank you- very helpful! Do you know if it's much harder OOS?

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Anonymous wrote:Do the different colleges at Cornell have very different acceptance rates (for out of state)? My DC is interested in a couple of the majors in the College of Human Ecology and am wondering it it is any easier to get into that A&S?

Yes and yes. A&S and Engineering are the two difficult ones that parallel ivy acceptance rates and have an ivy-type stacked applicant pool. The other ones are no slouch but the applicant and acceptance pool is different (lower course rigor, lower test scores )

At the same time, those colleges can be also harder to enter because they are looking for a specific type of candidate profile instead of the typical gunners for A&S and Eng. All the colleges have different essays and I think you can only apply to one.