The Venn diagram of men who are straight, high functioning, responsible, attractive, with admirable qualities of character and can command respect and men who want to be a house husband looks like this:

O O

I don't know anyone like this.

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Anonymous wrote:BIL is this, though they do have one elementary school kid. SIL is successful and basically gives him a list of tasks every day. We’re thrilled that he managed to marry up in such a spectacular way.

Before he married her he floated from dead end job to dead end job always finding something “unbearable” about the job. Really he’s just entitled and soft and has untreated ADHD but this setup works so well for him. She does his executive functioning for him. SIL seems to truly appreciate that she can focus on her career and doesn’t have to worry about laundry or dinner or school pickups.

If he can drop off and pick up on time, then he only has very mild ADHD. My ADHD husband is always late to those things. When he makes dinner, it's often an hour late. He never thinks about enforcing bedtimes, or anything with a time attached. He wouldn't be able to navigate school activities. I've had to do that for my kids' entire childhoods, even when otherwise engaged.

Just want to point this out, in case you thought your BIL was a terrible loser. If he's holding up his end, he's actually a gem.

+1

He doesn’t sound like any of the adhd males on one side of our family tree…
Good for them!

Anonymous wrote:Stay at home man-friend with no kids I have been hearing more and more about men in their 40's and 50's seeking out financially stable women to take care of them. Most are under employed, or are not working all together...

Anyone experiencing this? My girlfriend who is divorced and 43, says she is coming across this more and more. Men who just find ways not to have real jobs!

Weird but there are definitely tons of mentally disordered, underused loved adult males who’d prefer to do than than keep living with Mom or renting a room in a slumlord house.

Weird that the high income, have it together women are doing this like you claim. And it another basket case FTL female.

Anonymous wrote:Until recently people called women who stayed home a houseWIFE not a SAHM and the focus was on supporting the husband not watching or playing with the kids. I still think that is prevalent in upper income familes where SAHM's have nannies and other household help and really run the household for the husband and support this career. Why can't high achieving women have the same support from their spouse? Why would that doom society? Seems like a perfect solution

Housework took a considerable amount of time prior to things like dishwashers and washing machines. Most of the women staying at home still had kids, but they were spending on average less time with the kids and more time on the housework (for everyone). At this point, if you have a normal-sized home and no children, what you even be doing all day "running the household"?

I know two one in the Midwest and one in Cali they do nothing all day. The Cali one is the biggest loser spent a few short years in the army now has retired to a stay at husband for the last 2-3 decades it's insane and the wife doesn't even have a great job!

Anonymous wrote:Until recently people called women who stayed home a houseWIFE not a SAHM and the focus was on supporting the husband not watching or playing with the kids. I still think that is prevalent in upper income familes where SAHM's have nannies and other household help and really run the household for the husband and support this career. Why can't high achieving women have the same support from their spouse? Why would that doom society? Seems like a perfect solution

Not sure what you're talking about...there has ALWAYS been a difference between a house wife and a stay at home mother, one has a job and one does not. The majority of stay at home parents are indeed RAISING their own children, and play a VERY active role. It is a completely different scenario when a couple is childless and the man is capable of holding a job in some capacity.

There used to be a time when men took pride in their lively hood. There also used to be a time when men didn't suffer from rampant mental illness. Did you ever think there might be a link between ones self esteem and a sense of pride in accomplishment... psychology has proven that men are not satisfied with under achievement. Their brains are naturally wired that way, so yeah, let's have a bunch of mentally unstable men staying home to cook and clean (no kids, remember) for there big law wifey. Mental health alert! But hey, let's just prescribe them a pill for it. Happy house husbands all around the globe!

You asked why we are doomed, please read above! A bunch on man child babies with mental illness taking over the grocery stores and shopping centers...I am definitely going back to at home delivery🤣😂

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Anonymous wrote:To those of you saying women have done this for years... usually women were having children and raising them. Men were the providers and women were mothers.

This is nothing like a jobless, childless grown man living off a successful women, being a house cleaner. 😂 Society is doomed!

In my child’s preschool class last year, there was a stay at home dad with an attorney wife (big law.) he had also been a lawyer. They had a large family and the dad was always around taking care of everything for their multiple young kids, without a nanny. Jobless and childless is one thing, but I give credit to men stepping up to raise their families where it works for their marriage.

I applaud any stay at home parent, regardless of man or women. That is not what is being discussed here. We are strictly speaking about childless men...no children to care for.

Until recently people called women who stayed home a houseWIFE not a SAHM and the focus was on supporting the husband not watching or playing with the kids. I still think that is prevalent in upper income familes where SAHM's have nannies and other household help and really run the household for the husband and support this career. Why can't high achieving women have the same support from their spouse? Why would that doom society? Seems like a perfect solution

Anonymous wrote:To those of you saying women have done this for years... usually women were having children and raising them. Men were the providers and women were mothers.

This is nothing like a jobless, childless grown man living off a successful women, being a house cleaner. 😂 Society is doomed!

In my child’s preschool class last year, there was a stay at home dad with an attorney wife (big law.) he had also been a lawyer. They had a large family and the dad was always around taking care of everything for their multiple young kids, without a nanny. Jobless and childless is one thing, but I give credit to men stepping up to raise their families where it works for their marriage.

To those of you saying women have done this for years... usually women were having children and raising them. Men were the providers and women were mothers.

This is nothing like a jobless, childless grown man living off a successful women, being a house cleaner. 😂 Society is doomed!