Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 18:36     Subject: TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:OP here - very interesting comments. I do agree with the PP who suggested there is a closed community which has prior test papers/assignments. Always wondered how every parent seems to have both kids in TJ - and felt there was something more to it definitely. Now we know !! On that note, my DD took the test at the original time with medicine and came back after it. but really sad how the cheating cycle runs


By closed community if you are referring to Hispanic group, then you are a racist. We used tutors for TJ courses from a list provided to us by FCPS, specifically for AP Chemistry. Sure we chose the AP Chemistry tutor specifically because they had background in TJ chemistry. If one is going to select a tutor, it might as well be a tutor whose expertise matches what the student needs. TJ AP Chemistry has more rigor than regular AP chemistry. Since when is it considered cheating, to select a tutor who has the specific expertise in a TJ course and evaluation rigor?

This entire post looks like a buildup to go after the Hispanic community students and their parents. Shame on you.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 17:57     Subject: TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:I met a kid at an elite college from TJ, years ago, who had all his brother's old homework and tests.


This - and was probably the brother who helped this kid get into TJ as well !
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 17:54     Subject: TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
OP here - very interesting comments. I do agree with the PP who suggested there is a closed community which has prior test papers/assignments. Always wondered how every parent seems to have both kids in TJ - and felt there was something more to it definitely. Now we know !! On that note, my DD took the test at the original time with medicine and came back after it. but really sad how the cheating cycle runs
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 16:54     Subject: TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:
There is a significant cache of prior tests that are closely held and shared only amoung a trusted community.

Even if the teacher changes the actual problem, seeing a prior test is a huge advantage for most classes. Especially because many TJ exams are designed to test application of a concept. The teachers ask the students to apply their knowledge in a novel way. If you can see, hey, they approach this particular concept in AP Chemistry in this manner, you have an advantage.

There is at least one summer program that has a test bank of prior tests and uses it to pre-teach difficult classes during the summer.

The upside is that the kids still have to study and learn the material for most classes. They just have an extra leg up over the kids who did not see the old tests ahead of time.

OP, there is also the “trick” of being “sick” for a test, getting a friend to tell you what was on it and then you are even better prepared for the test. This might be what the teacher is concerned about. I would make sure to provide a doctors note.


Quite some kids play the "trick" of being "sick" for a test. If their test period is #1, they will just skip it for being sick. Then they will get the test paper from friends who took it, and make it up in a few days later.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 16:51     Subject: Re:TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Troll making up crap

Admit Algebra 1 kids, force them to handle TJ rigor, and wonder why cheating is prevalent!

If only there was a way to replace all TJ math quizzes with Essays, then there would be equity in GPAs too.

We already have that at FCPS bottom schools where not much is taught but everyone gets an inflated A.


That is objectively false. If inflation at that level was rampant, then we'd see thousands of ELL kids getting accepted into UVA. Obviously that isn't happening.

I do not doubt that general education classes with lower level kids are inflated, but they are inflated to passing grades like D's and C's. Nobody is handing out A's to lower level kids because there simply isn't demand for it from those types of kids and their parents.

Totally the opposite to helicopter parents that assume A's are the default grade their kid must have earned and can't fathom anything less. That is where teachers do inflate grades to get those parents and principals off their backs.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 16:30     Subject: Re:TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Troll making up crap

Admit Algebra 1 kids, force them to handle TJ rigor, and wonder why cheating is prevalent!

If only there was a way to replace all TJ math quizzes with Essays, then there would be equity in GPAs too.

We already have that at FCPS bottom schools where not much is taught but everyone gets an inflated A.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 16:11     Subject: Re:TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Troll making up crap

Admit Algebra 1 kids, force them to handle TJ rigor, and wonder why cheating is prevalent!

If only there was a way to replace all TJ math quizzes with Essays, then there would be equity in GPAs too.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 16:06     Subject: Re:TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
Troll making up crap

Admit Algebra 1 kids, force them to handle TJ rigor, and wonder why cheating is prevalent!
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 15:52     Subject: TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:
There is a significant cache of prior tests that are closely held and shared only amoung a trusted community.

Even if the teacher changes the actual problem, seeing a prior test is a huge advantage for most classes. Especially because many TJ exams are designed to test application of a concept. The teachers ask the students to apply their knowledge in a novel way. If you can see, hey, they approach this particular concept in AP Chemistry in this manner, you have an advantage.

There is at least one summer program that has a test bank of prior tests and uses it to pre-teach difficult classes during the summer.

The upside is that the kids still have to study and learn the material for most classes. They just have an extra leg up over the kids who did not see the old tests ahead of time.

OP, there is also the “trick” of being “sick” for a test, getting a friend to tell you what was on it and then you are even better prepared for the test. This might be what the teacher is concerned about. I would make sure to provide a doctors note.


The cheating frauds eventually are outed in life. They can never be trusted.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 13:11     Subject: TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
So tired of all these posts alleging cheating at the. I guarantee they have no firsthand experience with the school.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 12:59     Subject: TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow

There is a significant cache of prior tests that are closely held and shared only amoung a trusted community.

Even if the teacher changes the actual problem, seeing a prior test is a huge advantage for most classes. Especially because many TJ exams are designed to test application of a concept. The teachers ask the students to apply their knowledge in a novel way. If you can see, hey, they approach this particular concept in AP Chemistry in this manner, you have an advantage.

There is at least one summer program that has a test bank of prior tests and uses it to pre-teach difficult classes during the summer.

The upside is that the kids still have to study and learn the material for most classes. They just have an extra leg up over the kids who did not see the old tests ahead of time.

OP, there is also the “trick” of being “sick” for a test, getting a friend to tell you what was on it and then you are even better prepared for the test. This might be what the teacher is concerned about. I would make sure to provide a doctors note.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 10:31     Subject: TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
I met a kid at an elite college from TJ, years ago, who had all his brother's old homework and tests.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 10:30     Subject: TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
I'm afraid I must inform you that the teachers have been giving out test problems all year, and even test review guides, that students have been using to prepare.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 10:29     Subject: Re:TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes this is happening and very much

Admitting Algebra 1 students from lower-tier middle schools and expecting them to perform at the same level as peers who are two years ahead from top-tier middle schools is a recipe for cheating to occur. Can you all keep this hush hush, please.


This is exactly what is happening


Yes all these 9th and 10th graders who took Algebra in 8th grade are cheating on their CALCULUS test
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2024 10:00     Subject: Re:TJ _ DD down with fever Final Exam tomorrow
Yeah, cause we all know kids from the high performing (i.e., more affluent) schools could never cheat. And history has shown us that rich people never cheat a system. Let's keep the blame with the poors.

Perhaps parental pressure for success at all costs drives some of this behavior. Or maybe they are just lazy. But please stop with the assumption that it's only certain kids that cheat. It's silly. I've been told that TJ has always had issues with cheating...just like every other school. I'm also hearing (from DC) that there are kids from the "good schools" using chat GPT in IBET. So, yeah.