Anonymous wrote:If you’re at a target school it’s competitive. If you’re at a non target don’t even bother.

Complete BS.

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CS i can’t speak to, but - I have one kid at T20 and one at top SLAC - both say about 50% of seniors have jobs, and a there’s a whole lot of stressing and angst at this point. It’s not great out there for non URM kids, anecdotal evidence aside - you better have connections or be willing to grind.

Come on, this is BS. What schools and majors?

both econ majors - as I said, I can’t speak to CS, which may be better, but my son called it a bloodbath. Recruiting on campus was half what it was 2 years ago,
and ever dinner / coffee chat / group invite is geared towards diversity hires. Almost impossible for non URM to land on Wall Street with no connection - regardless of whether it’s Yale at the top or Cornell at the bottom of T20

Not the experience of my kid at Yale. Plenty of white kids without connections getting hired as always. Maybe the schools your kids go to aren’t as “top” as you’d like to believe

consulting (mgmt not economic) a bit easier and better than finance

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CS i can’t speak to, but - I have one kid at T20 and one at top SLAC - both say about 50% of seniors have jobs, and a there’s a whole lot of stressing and angst at this point. It’s not great out there for non URM kids, anecdotal evidence aside - you better have connections or be willing to grind.

Come on, this is BS. What schools and majors?

both econ majors - as I said, I can’t speak to CS, which may be better, but my son called it a bloodbath. Recruiting on campus was half what it was 2 years ago,
and ever dinner / coffee chat / group invite is geared towards diversity hires. Almost impossible for non URM to land on Wall Street with no connection - regardless of whether it’s Yale at the top or Cornell at the bottom of T20

CS i can’t speak to, but - I have one kid at T20 and one at top SLAC - both say about 50% of seniors have jobs, and a there’s a whole lot of stressing and angst at this point. It’s not great out there for non URM kids, anecdotal evidence aside - you better have connections or be willing to grind.

Come on, this is BS. What schools and majors?

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Anonymous wrote:Especially CS major? DC wants to do cs, but we heard some bad news from friends’ kids. Don’t know pervasive?

T10, CS and all majors getting hired no problem.

Friend's kid at VT struggling and says job market prospects down for their senior friends in tech. The other kid from Longwood has been looking for 2 yrs , some sort of programming major

CS i can’t speak to, but - I have one kid at T20 and one at top SLAC - both say about 50% of seniors have jobs, and a there’s a whole lot of stressing and angst at this point. It’s not great out there for non URM kids, anecdotal evidence aside - you better have connections or be willing to grind -

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Anonymous wrote:A plumber yesterday told me they charge $420 per hour. I was shocked inflation drove plumbing service to $420 per hour! Now how many college majors offer $420 per hour, even ten years post-graduation? And the icing on the cake is AI will not replace residential plumbing maintenance jobs!

Earlier this week, I had a plumber snake a clogged kitchen sink drain - he charged $350 for 35 minutes of effort!

I spent $1100 today for 5 hours of work bc the main drain was backed up and the drain needed to be snaked 70 feet. Ugh- but that man worked his butt off.

You got ripped off.

Anonymous wrote:Prediction (without dog in fight) CS and most STEM over or almost over. Glut of kids from the over focus on this for last 10-15 years and skills moving to AI. Will still need human implementation and judgement, though.

You don’t understand science , obviously.

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Anonymous wrote:Prediction (without dog in fight) CS and most STEM over or almost over. Glut of kids from the over focus on this for last 10-15 years and skills moving to AI. Will still need human implementation and judgement, though.

If you believe that…then you also have to believe most white collar jobs are “over”. AI can replace accountants, lawyers, junior investment bankers, stock analysts, special effects creators, etc just as easily.

Just the junior ones… you still need the senior people whose judgment and commercial experience is important.

The problem then becomes one of pipeline.

Which potentially is a problem for everyone if the pipeline shrinks by 75% for lots of careers with huge entry level funnels.

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Anonymous wrote:Prediction (without dog in fight) CS and most STEM over or almost over. Glut of kids from the over focus on this for last 10-15 years and skills moving to AI. Will still need human implementation and judgement, though.

Who makes AI work?

NP. I have no idea, and would like to better understand. What are the skills/jobs behind AI, how many people are we actually talking about, and how do these things compare to the recent past? How do you expect AI to change CS education and prospects?

(A minor question that I’m sure can be answered easily in a few mere sentences on an anonymous forum, lol…but I really am curious)

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Anonymous wrote:Prediction (without dog in fight) CS and most STEM over or almost over. Glut of kids from the over focus on this for last 10-15 years and skills moving to AI. Will still need human implementation and judgement, though.

If you believe that…then you also have to believe most white collar jobs are “over”. AI can replace accountants, lawyers, junior investment bankers, stock analysts, special effects creators, etc just as easily.

Just the junior ones… you still need the senior people whose judgment and commercial experience is important.

The problem then becomes one of pipeline.

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Anonymous wrote:Prediction (without dog in fight) CS and most STEM over or almost over. Glut of kids from the over focus on this for last 10-15 years and skills moving to AI. Will still need human implementation and judgement, though.

If you believe that…then you also have to believe most white collar jobs are “over”. AI can replace accountants, lawyers, junior investment bankers, stock analysts, special effects creators, etc just as easily.

Yes. I believe that based on the current concept of "white collar." AI has already replaced junior level graphic designers, writers, journalists, recruiters, researchers. As long as any company can input data, AI will output much more quickly than a person would. Once AI starts "talking" to all text, documents, videos with an automatic and real time interface, there will be no need for analysis, data entry and say goodbye to .xls.

Anonymous wrote:Prediction (without dog in fight) CS and most STEM over or almost over. Glut of kids from the over focus on this for last 10-15 years and skills moving to AI. Will still need human implementation and judgement, though.

+100000

Anonymous wrote:If you’re at a target school it’s competitive. If you’re at a non target don’t even bother.

Very true.

If you’re at a target school it’s competitive. If you’re at a non target don’t even bother.