Anonymous
Post 04/28/2024 00:13     Subject: Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
Anonymous wrote:I sympathize a LOT. Ammunition is very safe by its very design. It is very easy to have a few stray cartridges packed in with some other gear that you simply forgot about. If you don't shoot or hunt, then of course you don't get this.

I made the same mistake traveling into Canada en route to Alaska when I was 17 (late 90s). I had, say, half a dozen .22 cartridges rattling around in a box that contained other hunting gear. Would have sworn I had no ammunition if you had asked me--I simply didn't know. Canadian customs found them and gave me the third degree and tore apart my car looking for a gun. Then they waved me through.

The T&C law is stupid as f*ck.



Complete NONSENSE.

Where is the accountability of SELF?

It's AMMO, not chicklets - have some self discipline and respect and account for it all when not in use and don't be so goddamn careless in this post 9-11 world when you pack for a flight.

This ain't the 90's and that dude ain't 17.



Anonymous
Post 04/28/2024 00:04     Subject: Re:Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
Anonymous wrote:Now a third guy. This one from Richmond, VA. Coming from a cruise ship to T&C.

Wife blames the TSA for not finding the bullets.

https://www.nbcboston.com/investigations/consumer/virginia-man-is-latest-american-charged-with-ammunition-possession-in-turks-and-caicos/3351562/?amp=1

TSA is too busy making people remove shoes and getting rid of water to notice something like ammo!
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2024 17:29     Subject: Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
12 year minimum is absurd
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2024 14:29     Subject: Re:Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
Anonymous wrote:Now a third guy. This one from Richmond, VA. Coming from a cruise ship to T&C.

Wife blames the TSA for not finding the bullets.

https://www.nbcboston.com/investigations/consumer/virginia-man-is-latest-american-charged-with-ammunition-possession-in-turks-and-caicos/3351562/?amp=1


All well-off white dudes in their 30s, leading easy lives. Privileged idiots who are overcompensating by traveling around the country to shoot guns.

It’s like a bad SNL skit.

You don’t see any black folks on a cruise getting busted for ammo.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2024 11:32     Subject: Re:Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
Now a third guy. This one from Richmond, VA. Coming from a cruise ship to T&C.

Wife blames the TSA for not finding the bullets.

https://www.nbcboston.com/investigations/consumer/virginia-man-is-latest-american-charged-with-ammunition-possession-in-turks-and-caicos/3351562/?amp=1
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2024 16:05     Subject: Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
Yeah, anytime you go out of the country, you need to fully empty your bags before you pack.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2024 15:05     Subject: Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are both victims of bad laws.


Americans are such stupid jerks. These are separate foreign sovereign countries. Their societies have different values and they have laws that reflect their values. If you are a stupid American and are going to visit a foreign country, it behooves you to do a little bit of research into what is and is not legal in that country that is different from the US. You aren't entitled to bring your American values and lack of respect for the laws into another sovereign nation and expect them to just give you a friendly wave because you made an "innocent mistake" and brought illegal contraband into their country. That's international smuggling, you twit.

No, they were not victims of bad laws. They were victims of stupid American Hubris that they can get away with anything anywhere in the world.

Note for all travelers. If you are going out of the country, take the 30-90 seconds to empty any bag you are planning to use, completely before packing. Check all pockets both visible and hidden for anything that may be leftover from a previous use. It takes so little time, I can't understand why anyone would not do this. Just run your hand through each pocket and remove anything that is there. If it is something you want to bring, you can put it back into the luggage after your do your spot check.


I forgot to add that if you don't want to respect foreign countries national laws, then you should just stay in the US and not travel internationally.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2024 15:03     Subject: Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
Anonymous wrote:They are both victims of bad laws.


Americans are such stupid jerks. These are separate foreign sovereign countries. Their societies have different values and they have laws that reflect their values. If you are a stupid American and are going to visit a foreign country, it behooves you to do a little bit of research into what is and is not legal in that country that is different from the US. You aren't entitled to bring your American values and lack of respect for the laws into another sovereign nation and expect them to just give you a friendly wave because you made an "innocent mistake" and brought illegal contraband into their country. That's international smuggling, you twit.

No, they were not victims of bad laws. They were victims of stupid American Hubris that they can get away with anything anywhere in the world.

Note for all travelers. If you are going out of the country, take the 30-90 seconds to empty any bag you are planning to use, completely before packing. Check all pockets both visible and hidden for anything that may be leftover from a previous use. It takes so little time, I can't understand why anyone would not do this. Just run your hand through each pocket and remove anything that is there. If it is something you want to bring, you can put it back into the luggage after your do your spot check.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2024 10:25     Subject: Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
My friend's mom accidentally left a knife for cutting fruit in her backpack and tried to go through security at an airport.

She had been visiting her elderly mother in a nursing home and had brought her a watermelon with the knife to cut it. She was arrested at the airport and the police were full on intending to prosecute and send her to jail.

I don't know what to think about the T&C thing. Seems excessive and obviously a stupid mistake.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2024 10:22     Subject: Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
Something similar happened to me. My son took a bag on a Boy Scout camp out (they were mid teens and Eagle Scouts at that time) and left a knife in a side pocket inside the bag wrapped in a dish cloth. It was much bigger than a pocket knife, but you’d never see it zipped in an inside pocket in a black bag.

Well, I had to fly last minute to help an ailing parent and used the same bag and the knife was spotted on x ray security. Due to the length of it, I was promptly arrested and spent several nights in jail. Apparently I was in a jurisdiction that was really looking to enforce maximum penalties. It was a total accident but now I have to explain my record.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2024 10:12     Subject: Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
Anonymous wrote:The people calling for his release on social media are the same ones who who thought Brittney Griner being held in Russia over her vape pen "deserved it" and "just follow the law!"

Hypocrites.


I was coming here to say this! You can’t think one is ok and not the other!
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2024 09:43     Subject: Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
I am curious if those people saying this isn’t a big deal think the US should let people illegally bringing weapons across and then go free?
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2024 09:39     Subject: Re:Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
Anonymous wrote:It seems odd to me to keep ammo in a suitcase in the first place but that notwithstanding if there's pretty clearly no bad intent the violation should be viewed as more a technical transgression than anything substantively bad. Confiscate the ammo, issue a small fine, and send the guy on his way to have his vacation and spend money in the country to aid the local economy. Justice served.


They did take it into consideration for the last American that did it. Still gave him 8 months.

Apparently the stricter laws & punishment were specifically because of guns & ammo coming in from the US. Those foreigners crossing the border, not caring about the laws, they're all criminals.

Anonymous
Post 04/25/2024 20:57     Subject: Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't have sympathy for him OR Brittany Griner. At least I'm not a hypocrite. Don't carry around drugs and ammo. Its not that hard people!


Would that you were. You're much worse, a self-righteous prig.


What? No.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2024 20:19     Subject: Re:Ammunition rattling around your suitcase?
It seems odd to me to keep ammo in a suitcase in the first place but that notwithstanding if there's pretty clearly no bad intent the violation should be viewed as more a technical transgression than anything substantively bad. Confiscate the ammo, issue a small fine, and send the guy on his way to have his vacation and spend money in the country to aid the local economy. Justice served.