Anonymous wrote:Do research on BC or HRT causing permanent hearing loss. This fact is in the medical literature.

I started HRT and went partially deaf a few months later.

Ok. Now - what? People are getting crazy

Anonymous wrote:Hormones in birth control are designed to stop ovulation, so they come at a higher dose than in hormone replacement therapy. This increases your risk for breast, endometrium and ovarian cancers and it's usually not recommended. Hormone replacement therapy is specifically designed for perimenopause symptoms, and is considered safe for some, but not all women. Your doctor has to go over your family history of cancer and blood clots to determine if you can safely take it.

This is completely false info. BC pills are a higher dose but your risk of breast cancer is less than that of someone who has a glass a wine a night. HRT was designed for women IN menopause because it adds estrogen on top of what you already have. BC pills during peri are meant to stop the hormone swings by giving you the same dose of hormone every day. I have been taking it for two years now (I'm 45) and it has really helped. It's helped my heavy periods, bad PMS, terrible anxiety, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Hormones in birth control are designed to stop ovulation, so they come at a higher dose than in hormone replacement therapy. This increases your risk for breast, endometrium and ovarian cancers and it's usually not recommended. Hormone replacement therapy is specifically designed for perimenopause symptoms, and is considered safe for some, but not all women. Your doctor has to go over your family history of cancer and blood clots to determine if you can safely take it.

You are not a doctor so stop giving medical advice as if you were. I have seen multiple doctors and they all advise that bc is safer than hrt bc hrt adds to your existing hormones and thus the hormone load is higher for peri than bc because bc takes over your hormones altogether. Get your facts straight before you go spreading disinformation online

DP. What PP said is correct. And they did not give medical advice at all, they provided information. Correct information. Many, many doctors are not providing correct info when it comes to menopause.

So you should probably get your facts straight.

It’s not correct information.
You can’t compare the amount of hormone in bc to hrt because if you still get your period then your own hormones are in the mix also. That’s the point drs are making that you can’t seem to understand

Nooo. We are talking about medicating perimenopause, which by definition, is when a woman's reproductive cycle is still active, with all the usual complement of natural hormones, albeit released in a progressively more haphazard fashion, leading up to menopause. If you don't even know what perimenopause is, you cannot contribute to this thread.

There are minipills, in the birth control category, that contain lower doses of hormones, but I'm not sure how they compare to HRT. Every patient needs to talk to their Gyn and discuss their cancer and blood clotting risks and the types of medication available to them. Also do your own research carefully. You DO NOT want cancer in 10 years.

we are saying the same thing.

the way the pill works is it TAKES OVER your hormones. your hormones become moot. eg if the pill contains '4 estrogens and 4 progesterones' then YOU then contain 4 estrogens and 4 progesterones'. Whereas if you are making 2 estrogens and you take HRT it ADDS estrogen to your existing estrogen so if it adds 3 estrogens then you then contain 5 estrogens instead of 4. or unknown amount bc they cant control it. that's why drs recommend pill for peri vs hrt.

This is absolute nonsense.

Do research on BC or HRT causing permanent hearing loss. This fact is in the medical literature.

I started HRT and went partially deaf a few months later.

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Anonymous wrote:Hormones in birth control are designed to stop ovulation, so they come at a higher dose than in hormone replacement therapy. This increases your risk for breast, endometrium and ovarian cancers and it's usually not recommended. Hormone replacement therapy is specifically designed for perimenopause symptoms, and is considered safe for some, but not all women. Your doctor has to go over your family history of cancer and blood clots to determine if you can safely take it.

You are not a doctor so stop giving medical advice as if you were. I have seen multiple doctors and they all advise that bc is safer than hrt bc hrt adds to your existing hormones and thus the hormone load is higher for peri than bc because bc takes over your hormones altogether. Get your facts straight before you go spreading disinformation online

DP. What PP said is correct. And they did not give medical advice at all, they provided information. Correct information. Many, many doctors are not providing correct info when it comes to menopause.

So you should probably get your facts straight.

It’s not correct information.
You can’t compare the amount of hormone in bc to hrt because if you still get your period then your own hormones are in the mix also. That’s the point drs are making that you can’t seem to understand

Nooo. We are talking about medicating perimenopause, which by definition, is when a woman's reproductive cycle is still active, with all the usual complement of natural hormones, albeit released in a progressively more haphazard fashion, leading up to menopause. If you don't even know what perimenopause is, you cannot contribute to this thread.

There are minipills, in the birth control category, that contain lower doses of hormones, but I'm not sure how they compare to HRT. Every patient needs to talk to their Gyn and discuss their cancer and blood clotting risks and the types of medication available to them. Also do your own research carefully. You DO NOT want cancer in 10 years.

we are saying the same thing.

the way the pill works is it TAKES OVER your hormones. your hormones become moot. eg if the pill contains '4 estrogens and 4 progesterones' then YOU then contain 4 estrogens and 4 progesterones'. Whereas if you are making 2 estrogens and you take HRT it ADDS estrogen to your existing estrogen so if it adds 3 estrogens then you then contain 5 estrogens instead of 4. or unknown amount bc they cant control it. that's why drs recommend pill for peri vs hrt.

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Anonymous wrote:Hormones in birth control are designed to stop ovulation, so they come at a higher dose than in hormone replacement therapy. This increases your risk for breast, endometrium and ovarian cancers and it's usually not recommended. Hormone replacement therapy is specifically designed for perimenopause symptoms, and is considered safe for some, but not all women. Your doctor has to go over your family history of cancer and blood clots to determine if you can safely take it.

You are not a doctor so stop giving medical advice as if you were. I have seen multiple doctors and they all advise that bc is safer than hrt bc hrt adds to your existing hormones and thus the hormone load is higher for peri than bc because bc takes over your hormones altogether. Get your facts straight before you go spreading disinformation online

You are wrong. PP is 100% right.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand this "my doctor will put me on BC but not HRT" stuff. I certainly believe PPs are hearing this from their doctor, I just wish they weren't because is shows how ignorant doctors are about treating peri/menopause. BC has far more hormone in it that HRT like Estradiol w/ supplemented with some progesterone.

My understanding is that the BC my gym put me on has a lower dose of estrogen than HRT. In other words, exactly opposite of what the earlier PP said.

That isn't correct at all. BC has enough hormones in it to trick your body into thinking you are pregnant, and that means a very significant rise in hormones. The HRT given for peri/menopausal women is just enough to get the body back to wear it was before the ovaries stopped making the pre-menopausal levels. You will get vastly more estrogen with BC than you will with HRT.

My understanding (as a layperson not a doctor) is: The less you ovulate in life, the less chance for abnormalities to happen, so the less chance for certain cancers with the pill (since it stops ovulation). Same goes for having multiple pregnancies, since you will not ovulate while you’re pregnant.

(But, I probably would have killed myself on the pill because it made me really depressed, so oh well.)

HRT works completely different from the pill and does increase the risk of breast cancer. It can have health benefits in other areas though (e.g., it can reduce the risk of breaking bones when falling). So I think women need to factor in their individual breast cancer risk before going on it. Obv talk to your doctors!

BCPs reduce risk of uterine/ovarian cancer.
I just began Junel Fe two months ago. I spotted on the first month or so but it's leveled off now that I'm in the third month. No more cramps or mood swings.

Anonymous wrote:Hormones in birth control are designed to stop ovulation, so they come at a higher dose than in hormone replacement therapy. This increases your risk for breast, endometrium and ovarian cancers and it's usually not recommended. Hormone replacement therapy is specifically designed for perimenopause symptoms, and is considered safe for some, but not all women. Your doctor has to go over your family history of cancer and blood clots to determine if you can safely take it.

BCPs actually reduce the risk of ovarian cancer.

Anonymous wrote:Hormones in birth control are designed to stop ovulation, so they come at a higher dose than in hormone replacement therapy. This increases your risk for breast, endometrium and ovarian cancers and it's usually not recommended. Hormone replacement therapy is specifically designed for perimenopause symptoms, and is considered safe for some, but not all women. Your doctor has to go over your family history of cancer and blood clots to determine if you can safely take it.

Christ that study wasn't for perimenopausal women, it was in long into mesopause women. Debunked. Get your @ss to the doc and get some HRT and stop suffering needlessly.

Any woman that could safely take hormone based BC can do HRT. Please!

I do not think it is a wise idea.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand this "my doctor will put me on BC but not HRT" stuff. I certainly believe PPs are hearing this from their doctor, I just wish they weren't because is shows how ignorant doctors are about treating peri/menopause. BC has far more hormone in it that HRT like Estradiol w/ supplemented with some progesterone.

No.
Hrt plus your own hormones is the issue.
If you are still having regular periods you are layering hrt on top of your existing hormones

HRT is quite a low dose compared to the hormones in a woman’s normal cycle, and by the time women experience perimenopause symptoms, it’s usually because their own hormones are getting low. Anyway this seems to be a controversial issue even among doctor, and there are different philosophies for treatment.

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Anonymous wrote:Hormones in birth control are designed to stop ovulation, so they come at a higher dose than in hormone replacement therapy. This increases your risk for breast, endometrium and ovarian cancers and it's usually not recommended. Hormone replacement therapy is specifically designed for perimenopause symptoms, and is considered safe for some, but not all women. Your doctor has to go over your family history of cancer and blood clots to determine if you can safely take it.

You are not a doctor so stop giving medical advice as if you were. I have seen multiple doctors and they all advise that bc is safer than hrt bc hrt adds to your existing hormones and thus the hormone load is higher for peri than bc because bc takes over your hormones altogether. Get your facts straight before you go spreading disinformation online

DP. What PP said is correct. And they did not give medical advice at all, they provided information. Correct information. Many, many doctors are not providing correct info when it comes to menopause.

So you should probably get your facts straight.

It’s not correct information.
You can’t compare the amount of hormone in bc to hrt because if you still get your period then your own hormones are in the mix also. That’s the point drs are making that you can’t seem to understand

Nooo. We are talking about medicating perimenopause, which by definition, is when a woman's reproductive cycle is still active, with all the usual complement of natural hormones, albeit released in a progressively more haphazard fashion, leading up to menopause. If you don't even know what perimenopause is, you cannot contribute to this thread.

There are minipills, in the birth control category, that contain lower doses of hormones, but I'm not sure how they compare to HRT. Every patient needs to talk to their Gyn and discuss their cancer and blood clotting risks and the types of medication available to them. Also do your own research carefully. You DO NOT want cancer in 10 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Hormones in birth control are designed to stop ovulation, so they come at a higher dose than in hormone replacement therapy. This increases your risk for breast, endometrium and ovarian cancers and it's usually not recommended. Hormone replacement therapy is specifically designed for perimenopause symptoms, and is considered safe for some, but not all women. Your doctor has to go over your family history of cancer and blood clots to determine if you can safely take it.

You are not a doctor so stop giving medical advice as if you were. I have seen multiple doctors and they all advise that bc is safer than hrt bc hrt adds to your existing hormones and thus the hormone load is higher for peri than bc because bc takes over your hormones altogether. Get your facts straight before you go spreading disinformation online

DP. What PP said is correct. And they did not give medical advice at all, they provided information. Correct information. Many, many doctors are not providing correct info when it comes to menopause.

So you should probably get your facts straight.

It’s not correct information.
You can’t compare the amount of hormone in bc to hrt because if you still get your period then your own hormones are in the mix also. That’s the point drs are making that you can’t seem to understand