OP, I would suggest William & Mary as an alternative to W&L. It’s public but has the feeling of a SLAC. W&M may be a better fit culturally and there are plenty of outdoor activities in the area, including a small lake on campus. The geology program is well-regarded (and you can even choose a concentration in environmental geology).

https://www.wm.edu/majorsminors/geology/

St. Mary’s College of Maryland might be a nice safety worth exploring. Lots of outdoor activities, including on the water. Has a strong environmental studies program.

https://www.smcm.edu/environmentalstudies/

Anonymous wrote:Goldman definitely doesn't swing on down to Boone after it makes its yearly recruiting trip to W&L.

OP: "wants to study environmental science, geoscience, etc"

What about this says they long to live their life at Goldman?

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Anonymous wrote:Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.

Stop being such #$%$@ snobs. App State and others listed are perfectly fine schools where kids can shine.

Sure, but they aren't overlaps with W&L

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Anonymous wrote:Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.

Stop being such #$%$@ snobs. App State and others listed are perfectly fine schools where kids can shine.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.

+1. The overlap schools are Davidson, Colgate, Bucknell with Duke as a reach and Furman/Sewanee as safeties

Anonymous wrote:Approximately half of all DCUM threads end up in the toilet, and this is one of them. I know a bunch of kids currently at W&L, and they are definitely not douchy bros. The school is pretty white, though.
A somewhat similar school would be Davidson, not Roanoke.

Agree. There are a lot of pathetic posters that know nothing about the subject but post negatively because it feels good. I question any adult who would refer to young adults or kids as "preppy, douchey, bro's" for a dopamine hit. Starting to think this board is filled with a bunch of pent up day-drinking house wives that secretly long for that kind of guy vs. the mate they chose in life.

+100000000

Anonymous wrote:Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.

Anonymous wrote:I haven't heard much about this one. I know it is Greek heavy, but would it be worth checking out for an outdoorsy non-preppy kid who loves the Shenandoah valley /appalachian landscape and wants to study environmental science, geoscience, etc at a SLAC/small university? We are not in VA, but W&L is closer for us than schools in the northeast

Look at Davidson. It is a top med and law and career feeder too but without all preppy vibe, and tons of outdoor culture. A notch better than W&L, overall.

W and L has the most active outdoors club of any college. The kids I know there are not douchy and are outdoorsy. I would suggest a visit op, because this thread is based mostly on stereotypes and not actual knowledge.

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And to respond to the earlier PP, he's an 18 year old male, unless he rolls the other way then yes, he wants to get chicks in college.

And I suppose if he's like you, he might be gauche enough to use that language in public, caring nothing about the feelings of women (not chicks) who feel that they're more than a prize to be "gotten."

You think chicks don't talk about getting dudes? Step off your high horse.

Isn't the correct terminology "dudes" and "dudettes" ?

Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.

Anonymous wrote:What about App in Boone?

It checks the outdoorsy boxes and could work on a cultural basis if OP's kid is truly a Tims-wearing granola cruncher. But I'd worry about the academics and whether they'd be challenging enough for a kid with the stats for W&L, not to mention the career prospects. Goldman definitely doesn't swing on down to Boone after it makes its yearly recruiting trip to W&L.

Approximately half of all DCUM threads end up in the toilet, and this is one of them. I know a bunch of kids currently at W&L, and they are definitely not douchy bros. The school is pretty white, though.
A somewhat similar school would be Davidson, not Roanoke.

Anonymous wrote:How about Roanoke College?

Maybe if OP's kid is applying to W&L as a pipe dream then this would work as a more realistic option. There are some cultural similarities between the two schools. But if he's a legitimate W&L hopeful, Roanoke would be at most an extreme safety and probably below his radar altogether.

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And to respond to the earlier PP, he's an 18 year old male, unless he rolls the other way then yes, he wants to get chicks in college.

And I suppose if he's like you, he might be gauche enough to use that language in public, caring nothing about the feelings of women (not chicks) who feel that they're more than a prize to be "gotten."

You think chicks don't talk about getting dudes? Step off your high horse.