Anonymous
04/11/2024 23:12
Subject: TJ waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Based on the 2025 data, it seems that approximately 50% of applicants receive a waitlist notification. Why offer false hope to so many?
School Applicants Waitpool Offered
=============================
Carson Middle School 245 121 42
Longfellow Middle School 149 80 28
Lake Braddock Middle School 120 56 12
Rocky Run Middle School 127 54 24
Glasgow Middle School 88 51 15
Kilmer Middle School 113 49 TS
Cooper Middle School 98 48 20
Frost Middle School 97 42 TS
Lunsford 82 41 TS
Twain Middle School 76 40 TS
Stone Hill 81 39 13
Lanier Middle School 87 38 TS
Brambleton Middle School 77 37 TS
Mercer 57 30 TS
Jackson Middle School 70 28 11
Eagle Ridge 67 28 TS
Thoreau Middle School 64 26 TS
Farmwell Station 41 26 TS
Holmes Middle School 40 25 TS
South County Middle School 54 24 TS
Willard Intermediate School 50 24 TS
Trailside Middle School 37 22 12
Sandburg Middle School 62 21 12
Hughes Middle School 41 19 TS
Irving Middle School 56 17 TS
Key Middle School 40 16 TS
Belmont Ridge 34 15 TS
River Bend 29 15 TS
Seneca Ridge 24 14 TS
Hamm 21 13 TS
Poe Middle School 28 12 TS
Nysmith 24 12 TS
http://www.fcag.org/2025%20by%20Middle%20School.xlsx
I don't understand this. The total Offered is only 189 and the total in the Waitpool is 1083. Don't they make offers to 550 and pull from the Waitpool as offers are declined?
550 is the total offers made. Spreadsheet has 125 schools listed with at least one applicant and/or at least one offer. Offer count is show only if a school received more than 10 offers, otherwise TS (too small) is shown.
*Values represented as "TS" reference 10 or fewer students to protect student privacy as such data could potentially identify specific students, which FCPS could not disclose, under the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA), 20 USC 1232g.
Anonymous
04/11/2024 23:04
Subject: TJ waitlist
Anonymous wrote:
Only 28 offered from Longfellow?!
I'm not sure of the year, but I know of some top students at Longfellow who did not apply, including one who qualified for MathCounts Nationals.
Anonymous
04/11/2024 22:50
Subject: TJ waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Based on the 2025 data, it seems that approximately 50% of applicants receive a waitlist notification. Why offer false hope to so many?
School Applicants Waitpool Offered
=============================
Carson Middle School 245 121 42
Longfellow Middle School 149 80 28
Lake Braddock Middle School 120 56 12
Rocky Run Middle School 127 54 24
Glasgow Middle School 88 51 15
Kilmer Middle School 113 49 TS
Cooper Middle School 98 48 20
Frost Middle School 97 42 TS
Lunsford 82 41 TS
Twain Middle School 76 40 TS
Stone Hill 81 39 13
Lanier Middle School 87 38 TS
Brambleton Middle School 77 37 TS
Mercer 57 30 TS
Jackson Middle School 70 28 11
Eagle Ridge 67 28 TS
Thoreau Middle School 64 26 TS
Farmwell Station 41 26 TS
Holmes Middle School 40 25 TS
South County Middle School 54 24 TS
Willard Intermediate School 50 24 TS
Trailside Middle School 37 22 12
Sandburg Middle School 62 21 12
Hughes Middle School 41 19 TS
Irving Middle School 56 17 TS
Key Middle School 40 16 TS
Belmont Ridge 34 15 TS
River Bend 29 15 TS
Seneca Ridge 24 14 TS
Hamm 21 13 TS
Poe Middle School 28 12 TS
Nysmith 24 12 TS
http://www.fcag.org/2025%20by%20Middle%20School.xlsx
I don't understand this. The total Offered is only 189 and the total in the Waitpool is 1083. Don't they make offers to 550 and pull from the Waitpool as offers are declined?
Anonymous
04/11/2024 22:45
Subject: TJ waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Based on the 2025 data, it seems that approximately 50% of applicants receive a waitlist notification. Why offer false hope to so many?
School Applicants Waitpool Offered
=============================
Carson Middle School 245 121 42
Longfellow Middle School 149 80 28
Lake Braddock Middle School 120 56 12
Rocky Run Middle School 127 54 24
Glasgow Middle School 88 51 15
Kilmer Middle School 113 49 TS
Cooper Middle School 98 48 20
Frost Middle School 97 42 TS
Lunsford 82 41 TS
Twain Middle School 76 40 TS
Stone Hill 81 39 13
Lanier Middle School 87 38 TS
Brambleton Middle School 77 37 TS
Mercer 57 30 TS
Jackson Middle School 70 28 11
Eagle Ridge 67 28 TS
Thoreau Middle School 64 26 TS
Farmwell Station 41 26 TS
Holmes Middle School 40 25 TS
South County Middle School 54 24 TS
Willard Intermediate School 50 24 TS
Trailside Middle School 37 22 12
Sandburg Middle School 62 21 12
Hughes Middle School 41 19 TS
Irving Middle School 56 17 TS
Key Middle School 40 16 TS
Belmont Ridge 34 15 TS
River Bend 29 15 TS
Seneca Ridge 24 14 TS
Hamm 21 13 TS
Poe Middle School 28 12 TS
Nysmith 24 12 TS
http://www.fcag.org/2025%20by%20Middle%20School.xlsx
2025 data?
Only 28 offered from Longfellow?!
Is this real?
Yes, TJ admissions did a terrible job denying highly qualified Longfellow students.
Anonymous
04/11/2024 22:43
Subject: TJ waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
How many of the waitlists get admission for each school?
It depends on how many students decline their offer and the middle school they are from.
The reallocation of a declined offer depends on whether the school's offer count falls below its allocated seats. If a declined offer leaves the middle school with fewer seats filled than allocated, it goes to the next ranked waitlisted applicant from that middle school. Otherwise, the declined offer returns to the pool of unallocated seats, and the next overall ranked waitlisted applicant receives it.
I understand the process, but I am looking for the statistics on this from the prior year data mentioned.
Anonymous
04/11/2024 22:34
Subject: TJ waitlist
Anonymous wrote:
How many of the waitlists get admission for each school?
It depends on how many students decline their offer and the middle school they are from.
The reallocation of a declined offer depends on whether the school's offer count falls below its allocated seats. If a declined offer leaves the middle school with fewer seats filled than allocated, it goes to the next ranked waitlisted applicant from that middle school. Otherwise, the declined offer returns to the pool of unallocated seats, and the next overall ranked waitlisted applicant receives it.
Anonymous
04/11/2024 21:55
Subject: TJ waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Based on the 2025 data, it seems that approximately 50% of applicants receive a waitlist notification. Why offer false hope to so many?
School Applicants Waitpool Offered
=============================
Carson Middle School 245 121 42
Longfellow Middle School 149 80 28
Lake Braddock Middle School 120 56 12
Rocky Run Middle School 127 54 24
Glasgow Middle School 88 51 15
Kilmer Middle School 113 49 TS
Cooper Middle School 98 48 20
Frost Middle School 97 42 TS
Lunsford 82 41 TS
Twain Middle School 76 40 TS
Stone Hill 81 39 13
Lanier Middle School 87 38 TS
Brambleton Middle School 77 37 TS
Mercer 57 30 TS
Jackson Middle School 70 28 11
Eagle Ridge 67 28 TS
Thoreau Middle School 64 26 TS
Farmwell Station 41 26 TS
Holmes Middle School 40 25 TS
South County Middle School 54 24 TS
Willard Intermediate School 50 24 TS
Trailside Middle School 37 22 12
Sandburg Middle School 62 21 12
Hughes Middle School 41 19 TS
Irving Middle School 56 17 TS
Key Middle School 40 16 TS
Belmont Ridge 34 15 TS
River Bend 29 15 TS
Seneca Ridge 24 14 TS
Hamm 21 13 TS
Poe Middle School 28 12 TS
Nysmith 24 12 TS
http://www.fcag.org/2025%20by%20Middle%20School.xlsx
How many of the waitlists get admission for each school?
Anonymous
04/11/2024 21:29
Subject: TJ waitlist
These seem really low scores. Are they weighted?
Anonymous
04/11/2024 21:19
Subject: TJ waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any way to find out offered students' AAP status? You can assume certain kids are non-AAP based on school not having AAP, but is there any real data that's public?
That would be kind of skewed still though. DD was AAP in ES but decided to go to our base school instead of the center for MS so wouldn’t show up as AAP.
So she took honors, not AAP?
The data would still be nice to have.
Yes as the base school MS doesn’t have AAP.
I think most/all do now.
Anonymous
04/11/2024 21:03
Subject: TJ waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any way to find out offered students' AAP status? You can assume certain kids are non-AAP based on school not having AAP, but is there any real data that's public?
That would be kind of skewed still though. DD was AAP in ES but decided to go to our base school instead of the center for MS so wouldn’t show up as AAP.
So she took honors, not AAP?
The data would still be nice to have.
Yes as the base school MS doesn’t have AAP.
Anonymous
04/11/2024 19:45
Subject: TJ waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any way to find out offered students' AAP status? You can assume certain kids are non-AAP based on school not having AAP, but is there any real data that's public?
That would be kind of skewed still though. DD was AAP in ES but decided to go to our base school instead of the center for MS so wouldn’t show up as AAP.
So she took honors, not AAP?
The data would still be nice to have.
Anonymous
04/11/2024 19:34
Subject: TJ waitlist
Not all middle schools are sending same caliber, varies quite a bit, from Algebra 1 to Geometry to Algebra 2, and so forth, with math. It's anybody's guess what the talent spread is within each subject area - Science, English, etc.
Anonymous
04/11/2024 18:46
Subject: TJ waitlist
So Kilmer and Thoreau each sent less than
10 kids to TJ? Wow.
10 kids to TJ? Wow.
Anonymous
04/11/2024 18:01
Subject: TJ waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Any way to find out offered students' AAP status? You can assume certain kids are non-AAP based on school not having AAP, but is there any real data that's public?
for classes of 2023 and 2024 (before admissions change), there were fewer than 10 students in non-Advanced Academics.
http://www.fcag.org/TJ%20Admission%20Data%20SY18-19%20and%2019-20.xlsx
Anonymous
04/11/2024 17:55
Subject: TJ waitlist
Anonymous wrote:Any way to find out offered students' AAP status? You can assume certain kids are non-AAP based on school not having AAP, but is there any real data that's public?
That would be kind of skewed still though. DD was AAP in ES but decided to go to our base school instead of the center for MS so wouldn’t show up as AAP.