This kid is in PK. Not that it's any of your business, but why do you think he won't learn how to read/will fall behind academically? 3 and 4 year olds aren't expected to know how to read.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS is in pre-k at a DCPS. There is a child with special needs in the class and the school said at the beginning of the year they were trying to find a specialized placement for him.

Now the school says the child's parents are refusing to put the child in special ed.

It has been very disruptive for the class and looking ahead to kindergarten and beyond, what is DCPS policy for this situation? Does it vary from school to school? At a certain point, the child won't be able to meet any academic benchmarks, but maybe that doesn't matter in DCPS.

I thought I would ask here. Please do not lecture me on being elitist or awful, I'm really just asking to be informed, and it has not been good for the class or the child, who clearly needs more support.

Yikes. Have you even met a teacher? I don't know any teacher that doesn't care about their kids' progress. But what are they supposed to do if a parent refuses services? Do you want the school to start doing things to your kid that YOU don't authorize?

OP here, yes that was a bad way of phrasing it. I just wondered if it becomes "student X can't read at grade level, therefore they are moved to a special education class". Obviously I was wrong and it's addressed through federal law. I really just didn't know. thank you for this perspective.

As a parent of a child with a learning disability - I BEGGED the school for more services as they were not reading at grade level.
Do you know how hard it is for a child who is not getting the services they need to be in the classroom?
Imagine you are in a classroom and you can't read the flipchart - but you are expected to stay focused on the flipchart for morning meeting - every day.
Imagine there is quite reading time and there are no books in the classroom library that are at your reading level.

Please show a little more compassion for this child and their family.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS is in pre-k at a DCPS. There is a child with special needs in the class and the school said at the beginning of the year they were trying to find a specialized placement for him.

Now the school says the child's parents are refusing to put the child in special ed.

It has been very disruptive for the class and looking ahead to kindergarten and beyond, what is DCPS policy for this situation? Does it vary from school to school? At a certain point, the child won't be able to meet any academic benchmarks, but maybe that doesn't matter in DCPS.

I thought I would ask here. Please do not lecture me on being elitist or awful, I'm really just asking to be informed, and it has not been good for the class or the child, who clearly needs more support.

Yikes. Have you even met a teacher? I don't know any teacher that doesn't care about their kids' progress. But what are they supposed to do if a parent refuses services? Do you want the school to start doing things to your kid that YOU don't authorize?

OP here, yes that was a bad way of phrasing it. I just wondered if it becomes "student X can't read at grade level, therefore they are moved to a special education class". Obviously I was wrong and it's addressed through federal law. I really just didn't know. thank you for this perspective.

Many schools in DCPS have a majority of students reading below grade level. Did you think they all got moved to special ed?

Anonymous wrote:Read the Special Education Family Guide if you truly want to learn. As others have mentioned, there’s nothing to be done if a parent refuses services.

https://dcpsspecialed.wixsite.com/home

I've worked in special ed and I've literally never met a parent who "refused services". But I have met parents who refused specific, inappropriate services and had to fight like hell to get their child an appropriate placement. While there were people sneering and gossiping in the parking lot and hoping the child would just be sent off to the "special education class".

If it's obvious to everyone that the classroom placement isn't working for the child, I'm 99% certain the child is still there because what the school is offering to the family is even worse.

Administrators play chicken with the kids, hoping the SN parent will blink first. I know it's related to funding and also frustrating for the other kids (and their parents), but it's just so gross how people are so quick to blame the SN child and their parents.

It's totally fine for you to advocate for your own child. But please stop making assumptions about the other child and their family.

https://studentadvocate.dc.gov/ I’ve talked to the office of the student advocate about a similar situation. Like some people said, you can’t impact another parent’s decision re: services, but you can discuss a safety plan for your own child. The office was very responsive when I talked to them.

Read the Special Education Family Guide if you truly want to learn. As others have mentioned, there’s nothing to be done if a parent refuses services.

https://dcpsspecialed.wixsite.com/home

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Anonymous wrote:My DS is in pre-k at a DCPS. There is a child with special needs in the class and the school said at the beginning of the year they were trying to find a specialized placement for him.

Now the school says the child's parents are refusing to put the child in special ed.

It has been very disruptive for the class and looking ahead to kindergarten and beyond, what is DCPS policy for this situation? Does it vary from school to school? At a certain point, the child won't be able to meet any academic benchmarks, but maybe that doesn't matter in DCPS.

I thought I would ask here. Please do not lecture me on being elitist or awful, I'm really just asking to be informed, and it has not been good for the class or the child, who clearly needs more support.

Yikes. Have you even met a teacher? I don't know any teacher that doesn't care about their kids' progress. But what are they supposed to do if a parent refuses services? Do you want the school to start doing things to your kid that YOU don't authorize?

OP here, yes that was a bad way of phrasing it. I just wondered if it becomes "student X can't read at grade level, therefore they are moved to a special education class". Obviously I was wrong and it's addressed through federal law. I really just didn't know. thank you for this perspective.

No, behind behind grade level does not qualify you for special education. You must have a disability requiring specialized instruction to get an IEP. Like let's say you can't read on 2 grade level because you missed half of first grade. You're behind but not because of a disability. You can't get an IEP for being behind.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS is in pre-k at a DCPS. There is a child with special needs in the class and the school said at the beginning of the year they were trying to find a specialized placement for him.

Now the school says the child's parents are refusing to put the child in special ed.

It has been very disruptive for the class and looking ahead to kindergarten and beyond, what is DCPS policy for this situation? Does it vary from school to school? At a certain point, the child won't be able to meet any academic benchmarks, but maybe that doesn't matter in DCPS.

I thought I would ask here. Please do not lecture me on being elitist or awful, I'm really just asking to be informed, and it has not been good for the class or the child, who clearly needs more support.

Yikes. Have you even met a teacher? I don't know any teacher that doesn't care about their kids' progress. But what are they supposed to do if a parent refuses services? Do you want the school to start doing things to your kid that YOU don't authorize?

OP here, yes that was a bad way of phrasing it. I just wondered if it becomes "student X can't read at grade level, therefore they are moved to a special education class". Obviously I was wrong and it's addressed through federal law. I really just didn't know. thank you for this perspective.

The vast majority of students with disabilities, even with IEPs, are educated in the gen ed classroom, with either push in or pull out sessions with the special ed teacher. A special education class is reserved for students with the most significant disabilities.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS is in pre-k at a DCPS. There is a child with special needs in the class and the school said at the beginning of the year they were trying to find a specialized placement for him.

Now the school says the child's parents are refusing to put the child in special ed.

It has been very disruptive for the class and looking ahead to kindergarten and beyond, what is DCPS policy for this situation? Does it vary from school to school? At a certain point, the child won't be able to meet any academic benchmarks, but maybe that doesn't matter in DCPS.

I thought I would ask here. Please do not lecture me on being elitist or awful, I'm really just asking to be informed, and it has not been good for the class or the child, who clearly needs more support.

Yikes. Have you even met a teacher? I don't know any teacher that doesn't care about their kids' progress. But what are they supposed to do if a parent refuses services? Do you want the school to start doing things to your kid that YOU don't authorize?

OP here, yes that was a bad way of phrasing it. I just wondered if it becomes "student X can't read at grade level, therefore they are moved to a special education class". Obviously I was wrong and it's addressed through federal law. I really just didn't know. thank you for this perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS is in pre-k at a DCPS. There is a child with special needs in the class and the school said at the beginning of the year they were trying to find a specialized placement for him.

Now the school says the child's parents are refusing to put the child in special ed.

It has been very disruptive for the class and looking ahead to kindergarten and beyond, what is DCPS policy for this situation? Does it vary from school to school? At a certain point, the child won't be able to meet any academic benchmarks, but maybe that doesn't matter in DCPS.

I thought I would ask here. Please do not lecture me on being elitist or awful, I'm really just asking to be informed, and it has not been good for the class or the child, who clearly needs more support.

Yikes. Have you even met a teacher? I don't know any teacher that doesn't care about their kids' progress. But what are they supposed to do if a parent refuses services? Do you want the school to start doing things to your kid that YOU don't authorize?

Not PP, but my kid was getting kid, and this wasn't in ECE, either. Of course I didn't want the kid in the class who was regularly hitting other kids, regardless of what their parent wanted.

Anonymous wrote:My DS is in pre-k at a DCPS. There is a child with special needs in the class and the school said at the beginning of the year they were trying to find a specialized placement for him.

Now the school says the child's parents are refusing to put the child in special ed.

It has been very disruptive for the class and looking ahead to kindergarten and beyond, what is DCPS policy for this situation? Does it vary from school to school? At a certain point, the child won't be able to meet any academic benchmarks, but maybe that doesn't matter in DCPS.

I thought I would ask here. Please do not lecture me on being elitist or awful, I'm really just asking to be informed, and it has not been good for the class or the child, who clearly needs more support.

Yikes. Have you even met a teacher? I don't know any teacher that doesn't care about their kids' progress. But what are they supposed to do if a parent refuses services? Do you want the school to start doing things to your kid that YOU don't authorize?

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Anonymous wrote:None of this is your business. It is egregious that the school has shared this information with you and I'd be furious if I were there child's parents.

DCPS self contained classrooms are generally terrible.

Focus on your own child's needs, not on whether this other child will be academically successful.

It is my business when my kid gets hit repeatedly. Thanks.

Protecting your kid is your business. But your original OP said nothing about that. It said that the school told you they were trying to move him and the school told you the parents were refusing and that you were concerned about the child's academic progress. None of those things are your business.

If you want thoughts about how to approach the school about your child being hit, start a different thread.

OP said the child is disruptive. And she expressed concern about the other child's academic progress, not that of her own. Read better.

She didn’t express concern about the child’s academics at all. She insinuated the child should be flunked out.

Anyway OP - you are in PUBLIC school, in a high-povery school district. In general, get used to the fact that you are part of a system and don’t get any special treatment.

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Anonymous wrote:If the school is telling you this information, that is a massive breach of FERPA. I would doubt the school is doing anything correctly with respect to supporting and placing the child.

To be clear, the school hasn't said any of this directly. Its other parents talking/surmising. I have no idea if the school has said anything. I'm sorry for the short hand. Thank you for the mostly helpful responses

So completely unfounded rumors?

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Anonymous wrote:None of this is your business. It is egregious that the school has shared this information with you and I'd be furious if I were there child's parents.

DCPS self contained classrooms are generally terrible.

Focus on your own child's needs, not on whether this other child will be academically successful.

It is my business when my kid gets hit repeatedly. Thanks.

Protecting your kid is your business. But your original OP said nothing about that. It said that the school told you they were trying to move him and the school told you the parents were refusing and that you were concerned about the child's academic progress. None of those things are your business.

If you want thoughts about how to approach the school about your child being hit, start a different thread.

OP said the child is disruptive. And she expressed concern about the other child's academic progress, not that of her own. Read better.

Yes, exactly. Disruptive does not necessarily equal hitting, especially with 3 and 4 year olds. And, as I said, the other child's academic progress is not her concern.

I read just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of this is your business. It is egregious that the school has shared this information with you and I'd be furious if I were there child's parents.

DCPS self contained classrooms are generally terrible.

Focus on your own child's needs, not on whether this other child will be academically successful.

It is my business when my kid gets hit repeatedly. Thanks.

Protecting your kid is your business. But your original OP said nothing about that. It said that the school told you they were trying to move him and the school told you the parents were refusing and that you were concerned about the child's academic progress. None of those things are your business.

If you want thoughts about how to approach the school about your child being hit, start a different thread.

OP said the child is disruptive. And she expressed concern about the other child's academic progress, not that of her own. Read better.