Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 19:15     Subject: Re:Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:OP- reporting back. DS called the admission office today and spoke with someone there to withdraw. They were very nice and thanked him for letting them know.

As part of that discussion he asked if they would reconsider anyone else at his school. And the person took the time to explain that isn’t how it works, and that they overadmit to be sure they can secure the right incoming class based on yield.

This is definitely a shared failure. The school didn’t have a simple option in the portal. And DS didn’t write down that he needed to figure out what to do. This school had rolling admissions and was a safety, so he wasn’t focused on them after he got in back in October.

I think this has been a good lesson for all of us. This demonstrated to him how his actions, however inadvertent, could really impact others. It has made a bigger impression than all of my discussions with him.


It is not a big deal. I think we have been brainwashed, honestly.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 19:12     Subject: Re:Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
OP- reporting back. DS called the admission office today and spoke with someone there to withdraw. They were very nice and thanked him for letting them know.

As part of that discussion he asked if they would reconsider anyone else at his school. And the person took the time to explain that isn’t how it works, and that they overadmit to be sure they can secure the right incoming class based on yield.

This is definitely a shared failure. The school didn’t have a simple option in the portal. And DS didn’t write down that he needed to figure out what to do. This school had rolling admissions and was a safety, so he wasn’t focused on them after he got in back in October.

I think this has been a good lesson for all of us. This demonstrated to him how his actions, however inadvertent, could really impact others. It has made a bigger impression than all of my discussions with him.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 18:19     Subject: Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:He didn't forget, he wanted to see if he'd get accepted for bragging rights. So many kids now are counting off mid level school after mid level school where they were accepted and the ED kids miss out.


This, for sure. You don't accidentally forget one school.

Not all the schools make it easy to withdraw.
For one school my son tried and the process was so cumbersome just gave up. It was at a safety so we did not feel as if he was messing up another students opportunity or the school's stats. The school had rolling admission and he declined as soon as the acceptance came.


I do not believe you. Please name the school that made/makes it difficult for an applicant to withdraw an application for admission.


Indiana (Kelley, specifically.) There is no button on the portal, nor is an email address listed in the portal. My son hunted through some old emails and emailed the local rep to decline. She never replied and he STILL receives invitations from them, two months later.


Then you call Undergrad admissions (took me 10 seconds to find) and leave a message if no answer. But a kid qualified to gain admissions there should be able to find alternatives to inform someone, really not that challenging


Disagree. Once the kid emailed the local rep, they fulfilled their end.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 11:04     Subject: Re:Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s totally fine. Seriously, calm down. This is a non-issue. He just needs to go into the portal where he was accepted and decline the admittance. He doesn’t need to talk to his counselor or anyone else. Just take care of it.

There is no secret network where schools are communicating with each other to say who still an application in place after getting an ED admittance.


This but it really sucks when people do this. Even if there were 19 other apps, this is a simple task and should have been done.


It doesn’t really suck. It’s a small mistake that doesn’t hurt anyone. This admissions and decline will either be part of the decline that the institution expected, or it will mean that the spot goes to someone on the waitlist who really wanted it.


Actually it Does hurt at least one person. That school offered spots to X kids in RD. Had he pulled his application, 1 additional kid would have gotten an acceptance that did NOT get accepted. Sure the school will be fine and will pull from the WL if needed, but fact is ONE additional kid 99.999999% would have gotten an acceptance had he pulled his application.


One kid who also has twenty apps in and is every bit as unlikely to take the offer. This is not a school that was yield protecting, or following up in any way, and they probably did make it cumbersome to withdrawal the app.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 10:52     Subject: Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He didn't forget, he wanted to see if he'd get accepted for bragging rights. So many kids now are counting off mid level school after mid level school where they were accepted and the ED kids miss out.


This, for sure. You don't accidentally forget one school.

Not all the schools make it easy to withdraw.
For one school my son tried and the process was so cumbersome just gave up. It was at a safety so we did not feel as if he was messing up another students opportunity or the school's stats. The school had rolling admission and he declined as soon as the acceptance came.


So you email the admission counselor that you want to withdraw your application and cannot find it in the portal. Or you CALL. Only takes 5 mins max.

Even at your kid's safety, someone did not get an acceptance because your son did.

Even after doing these things - there are schools that processes suck and you still get the announcement in the portal.
I had my kid call. It is things they need to learn how to do in order to be an adult.
My kid followed the directions.
I saw the email that was sent.
You do your best and you move on. These are 17 and 18 year olds and some have better awareness than others.
Please give them grace and believe that the OPs kid made a mistake.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 10:47     Subject: Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He didn't forget, he wanted to see if he'd get accepted for bragging rights. So many kids now are counting off mid level school after mid level school where they were accepted and the ED kids miss out.


This, for sure. You don't accidentally forget one school.

Not all the schools make it easy to withdraw.
For one school my son tried and the process was so cumbersome just gave up. It was at a safety so we did not feel as if he was messing up another students opportunity or the school's stats. The school had rolling admission and he declined as soon as the acceptance came.


I do not believe you. Please name the school that made/makes it difficult for an applicant to withdraw an application for admission.


Indiana (Kelley, specifically.) There is no button on the portal, nor is an email address listed in the portal. My son hunted through some old emails and emailed the local rep to decline. She never replied and he STILL receives invitations from them, two months later.


Then you call Undergrad admissions (took me 10 seconds to find) and leave a message if no answer. But a kid qualified to gain admissions there should be able to find alternatives to inform someone, really not that challenging


Or this! Really, if your young adult does not know how to contact someone in the absence of a portal or email address, that is on you as a parent.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 10:45     Subject: Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Oh my word. When I applied to schools, most included a card where I could check yes or no. Another did not, so I wrote them a note and mailed it. Teach your children to write a simple card, search the address of the school’s admissions office, and drop it in the mail, Sheesh! It’s like we lost all skills as a society once everything went online.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 10:41     Subject: Re:Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s totally fine. Seriously, calm down. This is a non-issue. He just needs to go into the portal where he was accepted and decline the admittance. He doesn’t need to talk to his counselor or anyone else. Just take care of it.

There is no secret network where schools are communicating with each other to say who still an application in place after getting an ED admittance.


This but it really sucks when people do this. Even if there were 19 other apps, this is a simple task and should have been done.


No it doesn't. This is no different from any other situation where someone has multiple applications in. RD schools over admit because the students are over applying and most will not accept. If with that cushion your kid still wasn't admitted, they were never going to be admitted. The forgotten school is happy to make one more pitch to this committed kid.


No "RD Schools" determine they want to accept X students to generate a yield of C students. If your kid pulls their application, they would have accepted another student in your place to get to X students. X is determined as part of the yield calculation.

And it's not like a kid who did not do ED/ED2 who has 30 applications---those are all allowed. But once you get in ED/ED2 you agreed to pull all other applications.

Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 10:38     Subject: Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He didn't forget, he wanted to see if he'd get accepted for bragging rights. So many kids now are counting off mid level school after mid level school where they were accepted and the ED kids miss out.


This, for sure. You don't accidentally forget one school.

Not all the schools make it easy to withdraw.
For one school my son tried and the process was so cumbersome just gave up. It was at a safety so we did not feel as if he was messing up another students opportunity or the school's stats. The school had rolling admission and he declined as soon as the acceptance came.


I do not believe you. Please name the school that made/makes it difficult for an applicant to withdraw an application for admission.


Indiana (Kelley, specifically.) There is no button on the portal, nor is an email address listed in the portal. My son hunted through some old emails and emailed the local rep to decline. She never replied and he STILL receives invitations from them, two months later.


Then you call Undergrad admissions (took me 10 seconds to find) and leave a message if no answer. But a kid qualified to gain admissions there should be able to find alternatives to inform someone, really not that challenging
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 10:36     Subject: Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He didn't forget, he wanted to see if he'd get accepted for bragging rights. So many kids now are counting off mid level school after mid level school where they were accepted and the ED kids miss out.


This, for sure. You don't accidentally forget one school.

Not all the schools make it easy to withdraw.
For one school my son tried and the process was so cumbersome just gave up. It was at a safety so we did not feel as if he was messing up another students opportunity or the school's stats. The school had rolling admission and he declined as soon as the acceptance came.


So you email the admission counselor that you want to withdraw your application and cannot find it in the portal. Or you CALL. Only takes 5 mins max.

Even at your kid's safety, someone did not get an acceptance because your son did.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 10:34     Subject: Re:Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s totally fine. Seriously, calm down. This is a non-issue. He just needs to go into the portal where he was accepted and decline the admittance. He doesn’t need to talk to his counselor or anyone else. Just take care of it.

There is no secret network where schools are communicating with each other to say who still an application in place after getting an ED admittance.


This but it really sucks when people do this. Even if there were 19 other apps, this is a simple task and should have been done.


It doesn’t really suck. It’s a small mistake that doesn’t hurt anyone. This admissions and decline will either be part of the decline that the institution expected, or it will mean that the spot goes to someone on the waitlist who really wanted it.


Actually it Does hurt at least one person. That school offered spots to X kids in RD. Had he pulled his application, 1 additional kid would have gotten an acceptance that did NOT get accepted. Sure the school will be fine and will pull from the WL if needed, but fact is ONE additional kid 99.999999% would have gotten an acceptance had he pulled his application.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 10:33     Subject: Re:Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s totally fine. Seriously, calm down. This is a non-issue. He just needs to go into the portal where he was accepted and decline the admittance. He doesn’t need to talk to his counselor or anyone else. Just take care of it.

There is no secret network where schools are communicating with each other to say who still an application in place after getting an ED admittance.


This but it really sucks when people do this. Even if there were 19 other apps, this is a simple task and should have been done.


Yes it does suck, because there is at least 1 kid who did not get an acceptance to that one school because of him. However, he did it with all the others and simply forgot. Time to move on and not worry
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 09:23     Subject: Re:Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s totally fine. Seriously, calm down. This is a non-issue. He just needs to go into the portal where he was accepted and decline the admittance. He doesn’t need to talk to his counselor or anyone else. Just take care of it.

There is no secret network where schools are communicating with each other to say who still an application in place after getting an ED admittance.


This but it really sucks when people do this. Even if there were 19 other apps, this is a simple task and should have been done.


No it doesn't. This is no different from any other situation where someone has multiple applications in. RD schools over admit because the students are over applying and most will not accept. If with that cushion your kid still wasn't admitted, they were never going to be admitted. The forgotten school is happy to make one more pitch to this committed kid.


Not correct.

If the forgotten school is the applicant's in-state public, then it is fine; but private schools RD acceptance can result in a revision of the ED acceptance.

Many schools reject those who withdraw apps in order to make that school appear more selective than it really is.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 09:22     Subject: Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He didn't forget, he wanted to see if he'd get accepted for bragging rights. So many kids now are counting off mid level school after mid level school where they were accepted and the ED kids miss out.


This, for sure. You don't accidentally forget one school.

Not all the schools make it easy to withdraw.
For one school my son tried and the process was so cumbersome just gave up. It was at a safety so we did not feel as if he was messing up another students opportunity or the school's stats. The school had rolling admission and he declined as soon as the acceptance came.


We had this too. My son sent multiple emails and left a phone msg with one school and they still sent him an acceptance during EA. He just immediately declined.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2024 09:20     Subject: Re:Forgot to withdraw after accepting ED- now what?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s totally fine. Seriously, calm down. This is a non-issue. He just needs to go into the portal where he was accepted and decline the admittance. He doesn’t need to talk to his counselor or anyone else. Just take care of it.

There is no secret network where schools are communicating with each other to say who still an application in place after getting an ED admittance.


This but it really sucks when people do this. Even if there were 19 other apps, this is a simple task and should have been done.


No it doesn't. This is no different from any other situation where someone has multiple applications in. RD schools over admit because the students are over applying and most will not accept. If with that cushion your kid still wasn't admitted, they were never going to be admitted. The forgotten school is happy to make one more pitch to this committed kid.